Lucky... 0 #26 May 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Cancel based on what? If they can show it was a NASDAQ trading problem, fine. If the trades were a result of institution computer programs executing stop-limit trades and other pre-programmed parameters that's a different issue. Sometimes having computers in complete control is a two way street. They're utilized to eck out an extra percent or two return, so be prepared for when they screw the whole thing up. If they can get everyone involved in that time frame to agree to a 'do over' fine. Otherwise, might be some problems ahead for NASDAQ. In the in terest of fair trading, if there was an error, people need to be made whole agian, not 2 x whole, 3 x whole, etc. Now if there was no error, then let it pay where it sits. Ethical trading is a foreign term for conservatives it seems. I think the RW mind works like this: If you stole the money and got away, it's all legal. The possession rule is right in line with RWers. Sorry to burst yer bubble, pal, but breaking ethics rules in the trading world knows no party lines. Libs are just as guilty as conservs, Repubs just as guilty as Dems. Yea, good one. The R's are well-known for the Robin Hood syndrome. Oh, you mean like Joseph Kennedy Sr. ? Like I said, unethical trading practices know no party lines. It is obvious you are blind to that fact. Contemporarily, as a generalization, Republicans/conservatives couldn't give a rat's ass about people, the Dems currently do. Look at the vetoed children's HC bill, then passed under Obama and the Dem congress. Look at the major HC bill/law and who backed it. FAIL. Your HC raises costs and helps no one except those wanting more power and control in Washington There is failure here, yours If HC is such a tank, then how is it that Canada has basically pulled even with us? Australia has closed the gap. HC serves 2 purposes: - Makes people well - Creates jobs America is such a sociopathic nation that the people only look for the benefit of themselves and not the entire nation, this probably explains a lot of the scandals. Quote You have a sick view of a country that I do not share Right, I believe in HC for all, you think it s/b exclusive and I'm sick . As I said, America is sociopathic, meaning they just have no conscience. Quote But then I do not believe in socialist policy as you do Right, the socislists want HC for all. Quote And the HC plan will never come close to full implementation 1st much of it will not pass legal muster and the rest will be de-funded WOW, and who will win the superbowl, oh Nostradomas? Right now the onus is on the sociopathic party, otherwise it sticks. Quote Why fund it when it is now clear it will raise the costs As shown in the muffled report (you know, the one that showed the Obama admin to be telling less than the truth about the costs of the fucked up bill?) that was kept quiet until after the vote? I agree and let's defund teh military, as it is waaaay too expensive. Oh, we need it? Yea, we need HC too. Have a nice day Quote Your squealing will be heard coast to coast when that happens Until then your squeeling is now heard, have a better day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 May 7, 2010 Jobs being created for all huhhttp://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2010/05/07/broader-u-6-unemployment-rate-increases-to-171-in-april/ "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #28 May 7, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_on_bi_ge/us_financial_overhaul_markets See, the R's rip the market, the D's try to keep it fair. 3 D's calling for investigation, where are the R's? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #29 May 7, 2010 Quotehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_on_bi_ge/us_financial_overhaul_markets See, the R's rip the market, the D's try to keep it fair. 3 D's calling for investigation, where are the R's? Nothing like a good conspiracy to pave the way for more Washington power. Your favorite topic"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #30 May 7, 2010 >Jobs being created for all huh Keep praying for our economy to fail! Who knows; a few more hiccups like the one we saw yesterday and you might get your wish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #31 May 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Cancel based on what? If they can show it was a NASDAQ trading problem, fine. If the trades were a result of institution computer programs executing stop-limit trades and other pre-programmed parameters that's a different issue. Sometimes having computers in complete control is a two way street. They're utilized to eck out an extra percent or two return, so be prepared for when they screw the whole thing up. If they can get everyone involved in that time frame to agree to a 'do over' fine. Otherwise, might be some problems ahead for NASDAQ. In the in terest of fair trading, if there was an error, people need to be made whole agian, not 2 x whole, 3 x whole, etc. Now if there was no error, then let it pay where it sits. Ethical trading is a foreign term for conservatives it seems. I think the RW mind works like this: If you stole the money and got away, it's all legal. The possession rule is right in line with RWers. Sorry to burst yer bubble, pal, but breaking ethics rules in the trading world knows no party lines. Libs are just as guilty as conservs, Repubs just as guilty as Dems. Yea, good one. The R's are well-known for the Robin Hood syndrome. Oh, you mean like Joseph Kennedy Sr. ? Like I said, unethical trading practices know no party lines. It is obvious you are blind to that fact. Quote That is true and the "glitch" is being misreported. There was no "glitch" in the terms everyone is thinking about. The NYSE slowed the market bc the selloff was real. This is part of our model but other exchanges still have the choice to trade through us at normal speed and they did. There was also a fear factor involved.... when traders look at key note market equities like P&G and it is tanking that will quickly scare the shit of them and they will sell by emotion and reaction. That is pretty much what happend but as soon as people realized it they jumped back in and the market closed where it should have yesterday.... around the same mark it was down before the "panic". They're now saying it was a fatfinger error ordering a selloff of 1000 times more than they meant. Quote Lucky... no one said the sky is falling and I never made any claims about this being a collapse. 6 months ago you said the market was oversold and that a selloff was looming - 6 months ago. -----> I did and look... a selloff! Didn't you say the market is not a one day thing? I was looking down the road and by the way 6 months is not that long in market time. Yup I will go ahead and say it... I was right Quote You love to make calims... the truth is Obama did not cause the recent bullish moves and Obama will not be at fault when this happens either. His policies aided in the recovery: stock market, unemp and GDP. Contrast that with your hero's polcies and the result. Look at Clinton's policies, Reagan's policies and the results. Granted it's not 1 for 1, but polciies have some sort of indirect affect on these markets, sometimes a huge direct affect. Look at the Republican depression in 29, Hoover did nothing to save teh banks, the market, jobs, nothing relevant - it will fix itself. Then at the end of his term he signed the biggest tax increase in history, even today. That set the stage for FDR to finish the recovery which took 10 years thx to innaction, the same ainnaction GWB has shown, that Obama didn't repeat. Now you say the pres has nothing to do with the stock market? I'm sure you still do. I never claimed Bush helped or hurt the market nice try though and economically I think Bush was an idiot and I think Obama is as well. Sorry Obama has not helped the markets rise significantly but look on the bright side ... I also think this is not his fault its going down. Quote The market is simply not that strong right now. There are a lot of weak legs and all it takes is a big blow to one of those legs and what happened yesterday can happpen. Absolutley, it's from the Republican gutter to the Democratic recovery. I know, I know, it's just coincidence . Unfortunately the blow came from Europe and maybe an American fatfinger, I guess they owe us that after our Great Republican Recession fucked them so hard. ----> it has little to do with a party although you love to play that game it is not true. It has to do with a whole lot more than that. You can never stop playing the same note can you? Quote Like I have said this whole time...... be careful what you call a strong market as it could retrace deeply in the blink of an eye. I don't think the market is strong, I think it''s gaining strength or regaining strength from your guy's mess. And sure, teh market can fall any time, GDP can, I just think this recovery speed is probably unprecedented, even faster than teh GD. Same note again but the one thing you have got right... the market is NOT strong! Quote But you Lucky will now once again take what I said and blow it out of proportion and twist it as you normally do. I hope you enjoy that with your "extensive" market knowledge. You claim to trade stocks for a living, you predicted a selloff 6 months aggo, which is a massive amount of time in the stock world, and none until a small selloff now that was triggered by problems outside the US and possibly an stock trader error or was it manipulation? The market is still strong as compared what it was under your guy. Ever think the bullish movement its had was manipulation? It was not an error... the CEO of the NYSE said it clear many times. There is no smoking gun or one person to blame that is not what happened. It's ok to say you were wrong Lucky really.... once again 6 months is not a long time in the market. If I do a 6 month contract on an option that is not considered a "long term" investment. Sorry you were wrong but I'm sure you will keep playing that same old note. Have fun with that..... Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #32 May 7, 2010 Quotehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_on_bi_ge/us_financial_overhaul_markets See, the R's rip the market, the D's try to keep it fair. 3 D's calling for investigation, where are the R's? Of course they are bc it makes their boy look bad. This investigation is a joke. I lost a small chunk yesterday but it is what it is. Maybe just maybe the market was due for a correction??? Nooooo that could not be bc then Lucky would be wrong and the Dem's would look bad which is a joke anyway bc they should not be blamed for the pullback.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #33 May 7, 2010 Quote Wheeee!!!! That was fun daddy! Let's do it again! This says it all http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/07/markets/thebuzz/index.htmLife is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #34 May 7, 2010 Quote Contemporarily, as a generalization, Republicans/conservatives couldn't give a rat's ass about people, the Dems currently do. Look at the vetoed children's HC bill, then passed under Obama and the Dem congress. Look at the major HC bill/law and who backed it. FAIL. Once again you make a claim and then, when proven wrong, you backpedal and place retroactive conditions on your claim until it is so narrowly defined it only applies in a very specific situation. MAJOR FAIL!! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #35 May 7, 2010 Quote >Jobs being created for all huh Keep praying for our economy to fail! Who knows; a few more hiccups like the one we saw yesterday and you might get your wish. Check other posts of mine You will see your crap (that what you post) is not what I wish for but You are having fun huh sir but you were able to avoid the topic yet again typical "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites