Belgian_Draft 0 #1 April 27, 2010 Oh my GOD!!! The Dow closed at 10991.99 today. I guess that means the sky will soon be falling. It will be most interesting to see if the same people who raved about the Dow going over 11000 and crediting Obama will be as quick to blame him for it falling back under 11000.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #2 April 27, 2010 This "recovery" is goverment spending pretending to be growth. When helicopter Ben stops printing money and the POTUS stops spending money, we'll see what kind of recovery this is. The weight of debt is going to be a huge drag on the economy, the current administration just doesn't understand it. The market will continue to be jittery and job growth will be slow as long as we keep spending money we don't have. The next round of "stimulus" is going to be bailing out states before they go under, the pyramid scheme is eventually going to fall. Hopefully some grown ups will be in charge soon and we can figure a way out of this mess. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #3 April 27, 2010 Quote It will be most interesting to see if the same people who raved about the Dow going over 11000 and crediting Obama will be as quick to blame him for it falling back under 11000. The folks watching the DOW since February must be praising Obama for the 1,000-point increase Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #4 April 27, 2010 >It will be most interesting to see if the same people who raved about >the Dow going over 11000 and crediting Obama will be as quick to blame >him for it falling back under 11000. It will be fun to watch you blame him for this: (Good way to guarantee the democrats win the next election) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #5 April 27, 2010 Obama is now in charge of the economy of Greece and Portugal? Quote By Alexandra Twin, senior writer April 27, 2010: 6:04 PM ET NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks fell Tuesday after Standard & Poors cut Greece's debt rating to junk and lowered Portugal's debt rating, raising fears that a euro zone debt crisis could slow the global economic recovery. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #6 April 27, 2010 QuoteGreece and Portugal? Everyone knows that Obama was really born in Portugal, and is a Greek-Orthodox terrorist.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #7 April 27, 2010 QuoteQuoteGreece and Portugal? Everyone knows that Obama was really born in Portugal, and is a Greek-Orthodox terrorist. Is Portugal the capital of Kenya then?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 April 28, 2010 No way. John. They are both governments. And this shouldn't happen in places like Greece, where retirement with full pension occurs adter 20 years, those with jobs have high wages but go on strike anyway. Greece and Portugal - say bye bye Euro. They are such onerous governments that their debt is insurmountable. They cannot do anything else about it and they will collapse. And for some reason, generations of Congress havew put the US on this road. Our current Congress appears to want to accelerate the plunge. Let's take a look at countries that have had their economies utterly collapse. Not a depression or recession. Collapse. The US government is "too big to fail.". What happens when it collapses under the weight of health care, pensions, social programs, wars, etc,? The only government that doesn't fail is one that is too small. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #9 April 28, 2010 Quote Obama is now in charge of the economy of Greece and Portugal? Quote By Alexandra Twin, senior writer April 27, 2010: 6:04 PM ET NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks fell Tuesday after Standard & Poors cut Greece's debt rating to junk and lowered Portugal's debt rating, raising fears that a euro zone debt crisis could slow the global economic recovery. Well, many of the reasons for the rise were outside of his control too, yet Lucky was perfectly happy to declare 11k as proof that it's all working well. But now that it sags, we'll blame Greece? Feels more like profit taking after 7 weeks of gains, with any negative being used as the explanation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #10 April 28, 2010 Quote>It will be most interesting to see if the same people who raved about >the Dow going over 11000 and crediting Obama will be as quick to blame >him for it falling back under 11000. It will be fun to watch you blame him for this: (Good way to guarantee the democrats win the next election) Why would I? I have neither blamed Obama nor given him credit for the economy.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #11 April 28, 2010 Quote Oh my GOD!!! The Dow closed at 10991.99 today. I guess that means the sky will soon be falling. It will be most interesting to see if the same people who raved about the Dow going over 11000 and crediting Obama will be as quick to blame him for it falling back under 11000. OMG, what took you so long? I was calling this for months now, the market recoverd rom 6500 to 11,200 and it drops to just under 11k and as I said, you would be here to *TRY* to make your claim that the market would tank, the one you made 6 MONTHS AGO. Will you feel silly if it regains tomorrow, next week, etc? Nostradamas, this is not a completed prediction, it's an S&P adjustment to Greece and Portugal tanking. Until and unless the market falls to 8-9k and stays, your prediction is as expeccted, useless. Even then I said it could make adjustments, but you predicted a soon slide; 1 bad day 6 months later warrants you to claim victory. Hillarious. As I said, hang around long enough and you will see a bad day, bad week, and even a slide. Keeping your guess in the running for good until the market falls a mere 200 points is typical and expected from you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #12 April 28, 2010 Quote This "recovery" is goverment spending pretending to be growth. When helicopter Ben stops printing money and the POTUS stops spending money, we'll see what kind of recovery this is. The weight of debt is going to be a huge drag on the economy, the current administration just doesn't understand it. The market will continue to be jittery and job growth will be slow as long as we keep spending money we don't have. The next round of "stimulus" is going to be bailing out states before they go under, the pyramid scheme is eventually going to fall. Hopefully some grown ups will be in charge soon and we can figure a way out of this mess. REALLY????? As per your rag, spending is shading off from your hero and revenues went from way down to slightly up. Perhaps you were looking at the graph with a little bias or were otherwise unable to understand it. http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/growth-federal-spending-revenue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #13 April 28, 2010 Quote>It will be most interesting to see if the same people who raved about >the Dow going over 11000 and crediting Obama will be as quick to blame >him for it falling back under 11000. It will be fun to watch you blame him for this: (Good way to guarantee the democrats win the next election) Yes, but you see Belgian watches the market in increments, as the macro picture doesn't help his failed argument. He has to make the argument that 10,800 is bad for now, considering back in the shittier times we we're supposed to break 10k until later this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #14 April 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteGreece and Portugal? Everyone knows that Obama was really born in Portugal, and is a Greek-Orthodox terrorist. Is Portugal the capital of Kenya then? This is way too confusing, these Republicans really have this geography stuff nailed, I say we send em to play Jeopardy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #15 April 28, 2010 QuoteNo way. John. They are both governments. And this shouldn't happen in places like Greece, where retirement with full pension occurs adter 20 years, those with jobs have high wages but go on strike anyway. Greece and Portugal - say bye bye Euro. They are such onerous governments that their debt is insurmountable. They cannot do anything else about it and they will collapse. And for some reason, generations of Congress havew put the US on this road. Our current Congress appears to want to accelerate the plunge. Let's take a look at countries that have had their economies utterly collapse. Not a depression or recession. Collapse. The US government is "too big to fail.". What happens when it collapses under the weight of health care, pensions, social programs, wars, etc,? The only government that doesn't fail is one that is too small. What happens when the US fails under the load of spending 8 times that of the #2 in military budget? Oh, I see we are realizing that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #16 April 28, 2010 Quote Quote Obama is now in charge of the economy of Greece and Portugal? Quote By Alexandra Twin, senior writer April 27, 2010: 6:04 PM ET NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks fell Tuesday after Standard & Poors cut Greece's debt rating to junk and lowered Portugal's debt rating, raising fears that a euro zone debt crisis could slow the global economic recovery. Well, many of the reasons for the rise were outside of his control too, yet Lucky was perfectly happy to declare 11k as proof that it's all working well. But now that it sags, we'll blame Greece? Feels more like profit taking after 7 weeks of gains, with any negative being used as the explanation. 200 points? I don;t care if it falls 500 points, we are so ahead of schedule with the recovery it's sick. WHat's sick to Republicans like you is that the country isn;t failing. IT'S A FUCKING SHAME THE ONLY TIME YOU HEAR CONSERVATIVES CROW IS WHEN THE COUNTRY HAS SOMETHING BAD HAPPEN. Of course you guys are the true Americans. BTW, I declared victory at 10K and with 3 massive +++ Q's of GDP growth, just as you denied and felt horribly for the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #17 April 28, 2010 Quote Quote Oh my GOD!!! The Dow closed at 10991.99 today. I guess that means the sky will soon be falling. It will be most interesting to see if the same people who raved about the Dow going over 11000 and crediting Obama will be as quick to blame him for it falling back under 11000. OMG, what took you so long? I was calling this for months now, the market recoverd rom 6500 to 11,200 and it drops to just under 11k and as I said, you would be here to *TRY* to make your claim that the market would tank, the one you made 6 MONTHS AGO. Why would I make that claim? You obviously have me confused with somebody else. Will you feel silly if it regains tomorrow, next week, etc? No, because i never made a prediction of any sort. But you like to predict what everyone knows will happen and then claim to be a market genius. Nostradamas, this is not a completed prediction, it's an S&P adjustment to Greece and Portugal tanking. Until and unless the market falls to 8-9k and stays, your prediction is as expeccted, useless. Even then I said it could make adjustments, but you predicted a soon slide; I did? Where???1 bad day 6 months later warrants you to claim victory. Hillarious. As I said, hang around long enough and you will see a bad day, bad week, and even a slide. Keeping your guess in the running for good until the market falls a mere 200 points is typical and expected from you. Lucky, you hate so many people on this forum you can't remember who you hate for what. Like I said, you obviously have me confused with somebody else. Try to keep your shitlist straight, ok? That's a good boy.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #18 April 28, 2010 I predict the stock market will continue to fluctuate.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #19 April 28, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Oh my GOD!!! The Dow closed at 10991.99 today. I guess that means the sky will soon be falling. It will be most interesting to see if the same people who raved about the Dow going over 11000 and crediting Obama will be as quick to blame him for it falling back under 11000. OMG, what took you so long? I was calling this for months now, the market recoverd rom 6500 to 11,200 and it drops to just under 11k and as I said, you would be here to *TRY* to make your claim that the market would tank, the one you made 6 MONTHS AGO. Why would I make that claim? You obviously have me confused with somebody else. Will you feel silly if it regains tomorrow, next week, etc? No, because i never made a prediction of any sort. But you like to predict what everyone knows will happen and then claim to be a market genius. Nostradamas, this is not a completed prediction, it's an S&P adjustment to Greece and Portugal tanking. Until and unless the market falls to 8-9k and stays, your prediction is as expeccted, useless. Even then I said it could make adjustments, but you predicted a soon slide; I did? Where???1 bad day 6 months later warrants you to claim victory. Hillarious. As I said, hang around long enough and you will see a bad day, bad week, and even a slide. Keeping your guess in the running for good until the market falls a mere 200 points is typical and expected from you. Lucky, you hate so many people on this forum you can't remember who you hate for what. Like I said, you obviously have me confused with somebody else. Try to keep your shitlist straight, ok? That's a good boy. Yep, I have you and stanley as the same person; can't really blame me, can ya. But thx for once again failing to address the issue. As for hate, naw, a different adjective, I will let you decide for yourself. Oh, and congratulations, the market has shaded off by 200 measly points from a low of 6500 to 11,200, so enjoy your win - you seem to marvel at any small hiccups this country has in its GREAT REPUBLICAN RECESSION recovery. Have a beer, maybe you'll luck out and the market will drop 200 more tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #20 April 28, 2010 QuoteI predict the stock market will continue to fluctuate. Continue to fluctuate? You mean START to fluctuate. The market has been incredibly stable and ascending; 1 day a fluctuation does not make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #21 April 28, 2010 Quote Quote I predict the stock market will continue to fluctuate. Continue to fluctuate? You mean START to fluctuate. The market has been incredibly stable and ascending; 1 day a fluctuation does not make. The market fluctuates constantly! It has NOTHING to do with stability until you look at the AMOUNT it fluctuates by! Don't quit your day job. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #22 April 28, 2010 And what issue is it you are now accusing me of failing to address? I always ask you that same question, yet you never answer. You only cut and paste from other web sites. For once try to post something original and of your own.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #23 April 28, 2010 Quote Quote Quote I predict the stock market will continue to fluctuate. Continue to fluctuate? You mean START to fluctuate. The market has been incredibly stable and ascending; 1 day a fluctuation does not make. The market fluctuates constantly! It has NOTHING to do with stability until you look at the AMOUNT it fluctuates by! Don't quit your day job. But the term, "fluctuates" tends to be more about wide variances, unless you consider 7 and 20 point days a fluctuation You either, keep building trailers pretending to know acft construction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #24 April 28, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote I predict the stock market will continue to fluctuate. Continue to fluctuate? You mean START to fluctuate. The market has been incredibly stable and ascending; 1 day a fluctuation does not make. The market fluctuates constantly! It has NOTHING to do with stability until you look at the AMOUNT it fluctuates by! Don't quit your day job. But the term, "fluctuates" tends to be more about wide variances, unless you consider 7 and 20 point days a fluctuation You either, keep building trailers pretending to know acft construction. Belgian: The Dow closed at 10991.99 today. I guess that means the sky will soon be falling. It will be most interesting to see if the same people who raved about the Dow going over 11000 and crediting Obama will be as quick to blame him for it falling back under 11000. Gee I dunno, the market improvement since Obama, even in light of the freefall; you think it's coincidence. The overall economy went to shit under Reagan, Bush and Bush, healed under Clinton and now Obama and you think it's just a big free-for-all as to who's responsible???? The market fell due to 2 countries in Europe, but 200 points isn't even worth mentioning, but you have a beef with people credit Obama's policies for unfucking your heroes mess.....that's right, you refuse to chose a position (we'll keep pretending you aren't a card-carrying Republican). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #25 April 28, 2010 Quote But the term, "fluctuates" tends to be more about wide variances, unless you consider 7 and 20 point days a fluctuation There goes lucky doing his usual thing...making up definitions to fit his own needs. Backpedaling at it's best. Quote You either, keep building trailers pretending to know acft construction. Ok, I will continue to design an occasional trailer. It is, obviously, something much too difficult for you to handle or you wouldn't keep asking me to do it for you. And I do know aircraft construction. Far more than you realize. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites