regulator 0 #26 April 15, 2010 Can anyone that has actually seen the show 'whale wars' make a comment about how they drastically decreased whale deaths by japanese whale fishing vessels? I have watched over 25 episodes of the show and the last time I watched it the sea shepard and its crew were getting their asses handed to them by the japanese whaling fleet. Their high powered water cannons and LRAD systems were holding off the Sea Shepard and after they watched several whales get slaughtered in front of them, they got pissed off and actually rammed the nisshin maru. Has anyone seen the show and knows what the sea shepard crew has done to reduce whaling operations by the Japanese 'research' vessels by 50% Bueller? Bueller? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #27 April 15, 2010 I have only seen one episode--it might be the latter to which you refer. In the episode I saw (a year or more ago?) the Sea Shepherd crew witnessed a couple whales reeled in and slaughtered. I rememeber a comment by the narrater, or one of the crew members, this was the first time the Japanese had actually done so in the Sea Shepherd's presence. Toward the end of the episode, the Sea Shepherd vessel impacted the Japanese one--the Nisshin Maru, if I remember correctly (have not Googled to double-check). Officials confiscated the Whale Wars video footage to investigate. I am not completely for, nor against, what the Sea Shepherd organization does. What I know is there is a lot of grey area and if one cares about what the Japanese whaling industry is doing, the Sea Shepherd has done more to bring it to light than anyone else. Short of actual terrorism on the Sea Shepherd's part (???) I am not sure what the big deal is.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussiechick 0 #28 April 16, 2010 No matter how you feel about the Sea Shepards methods, nobody else seems to be doing anything about it. Whales are endangered, and whaling has been banned for a reason. This shouldn't be about which meat different cultures prefer to eat. These aren't plentiful farmed animals. If whaling continues unchecked, it's only a matter of time before the argument will be moot anyway. Thankfully, it seems that younger Japanese people are turning away from eating whale meat , so in turn the market may die out. Hopefully before the whales do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #29 April 16, 2010 Who's down to throw in on this feast? http://www.fishex.com/recipes/combos/whale-stew.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #30 April 16, 2010 Quote Whales are endangered, and whaling has been banned for a reason. yes, people like whales more than they like sharks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #31 April 16, 2010 QuoteExcellent results by the Sea Sheperds. With any luck, they'll be even MORE effective next year. So...you support the vigilante mentality. Nice. As for you bozo vegetarians who whine about killing animals: Why are you not jumping up and down screaming meemies about the ultimate animal killing...capital punishment?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #32 April 16, 2010 Quote Who's down to throw in on this feast? http://www.fishex.com/recipes/combos/whale-stew.html Freakin' hilarious!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #33 April 16, 2010 QuoteQuote Whales are endangered, and whaling has been banned for a reason. yes, people like whales more than they like sharks. Fine. Next time you get sued, hire a whale to defend you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #34 April 16, 2010 QuoteQuoteExcellent results by the Sea Sheperds. With any luck, they'll be even MORE effective next year. So...you support the vigilante mentality. Nice. As for you bozo vegetarians who whine about killing animals: Why are you not jumping up and down screaming meemies about the ultimate animal killing...capital punishment? You really are trying to equate killing animals for food to capital punishment? NOT even close to comparable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #35 April 16, 2010 Have any of you tasted whale?? Its freakin' delicious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #36 April 16, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteExcellent results by the Sea Sheperds. With any luck, they'll be even MORE effective next year. So...you support the vigilante mentality. Nice. As for you bozo vegetarians who whine about killing animals: Why are you not jumping up and down screaming meemies about the ultimate animal killing...capital punishment? You really are trying to equate killing animals for food to capital punishment? NOT even close to comparable. So...in YOUR view, it's OK to whack humans but not animals, eh? If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse....in MY world.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #37 April 16, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteExcellent results by the Sea Sheperds. With any luck, they'll be even MORE effective next year. So...you support the vigilante mentality. Nice. As for you bozo vegetarians who whine about killing animals: Why are you not jumping up and down screaming meemies about the ultimate animal killing...capital punishment? You really are trying to equate killing animals for food to capital punishment? NOT even close to comparable. So...in YOUR view, it's OK to whack humans but not animals, eh? >>>>>Never said any such thing. Further more I never stated that I was a vegetarian OR whether I was for capital punishment. Thanks for putting words into my mouth and ASSuming incorrectly on both counts. If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse....in MY world. >>>>>And once again I'll state, correctly I might add, that comparing killing an animal for food and capital punishment are in no way related other than life ends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vitriol 0 #38 April 16, 2010 QuoteHave any of you tasted whale?? Its freakin' delicious. Yes, and no, it was not delicious at all... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #39 April 16, 2010 QuoteIf you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse....in MY world. Have you ever tasted human? It's freakin' delicious! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #40 April 16, 2010 Quote Quote If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse....in MY world. Have you ever tasted human? It's freakin' delicious! Aren't we though? Some people say we taste like chicken, but I find us to taste much more like bonobo. Smoked and served with a cucumber and tomato salad....mmmmmmmmGOOD! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #41 April 16, 2010 Quote Quote Quote If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse....in MY world. Have you ever tasted human? It's freakin' delicious! Aren't we though? Some people say we taste like chicken, but I find us to taste much more like bonobo. Smoked and served with a cucumber and tomato salad....mmmmmmmmGOOD! Its an acquired taste.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #42 April 17, 2010 Quote Quote If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse....in MY world. Have you ever tasted human? It's freakin' delicious! Only pink, warm, shaved (and unshaved) and alive!! Yes! It is delicious"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #43 April 17, 2010 >If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse.... If killing humans is so bad, then why did God make us out of meat? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussiechick 0 #44 April 17, 2010 QuoteQuote Whales are endangered, and whaling has been banned for a reason. yes, people like whales more than they like sharks. I don't think finning is looked upon too kindly either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #45 April 17, 2010 Quote>If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse.... If killing humans is so bad, then why did God make us out of meat? Signed, Jeffery Dahmer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #46 April 17, 2010 Quote >If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse.... If killing humans is so bad, then why did God make us out of tasty meat? Fixed it! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #47 April 17, 2010 http://baetzler.de/humor/meat_beings.html They're made out of Meat by Terry Bisson "They're made out of meat." "Meat?" "Meat. They're made out of meat." "Meat?" "There's no doubt about it. We picked several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, probed them all the way through. They're completely meat." "That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars." "They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines." "So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact." "They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines." "That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat." "I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in the sector and they're made out of meat." "Maybe they're like the Orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage." "Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take too long. Do you have any idea the life span of meat?" "Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the Weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside." "Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads like the Weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through." "No brain?" "Oh, there is a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat!" "So... what does the thinking?" "You're not understanding, are you? The brain does the thinking. The meat." "Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!" "Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you getting the picture?" "Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat." "Finally, Yes. They are indeed made out meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years." "So what does the meat have in mind?" "First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the universe, contact other sentients, swap ideas and information. The usual." "We're supposed to talk to meat?" "That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there? Anyone home?' That sort of thing." "They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?" "Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat." "I thought you just told me they used radio." "They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat." "Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?" "Officially or unofficially?" "Both." "Officially, we are required to contact, welcome, and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in the quadrant, without prejudice, fear, or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing." "I was hoping you would say that." "It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?" "I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say?" `Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?" "Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact." "So we just pretend there's no one home in the universe." "That's it." "Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you have probed? You're sure they won't remember?" "They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them." "A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat's dream." "And we can mark this sector unoccupied." "Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?" "Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotations ago, wants to be friendly again." "They always come around." "And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the universe would be if one were all alone."-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #48 April 18, 2010 Quote Quote >If you think killing animals is bad, then killing humans just HAS to be much worse.... If killing humans is so bad, then why did God make us out of meat? Signed, Jeffery Dahmer OK you guys...I'll retract and re-state: In light of Jeffery and the cannibals of the world (who, BTW, abhor Italian seasonings), killing humans for food might not be bad. You guys crack me up...even the supporting actor in Lassie Come Home.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #49 April 18, 2010 Quote Have you ever tasted human? It's freakin' delicious! Only pink, warm, shaved (and unshaved) and alive!! Yes! It is delicious Now see here, Marc. This is a fun thread. No need to go get all serious on us. But on a side note, for some people, "alive" may be an option. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #50 April 18, 2010 QuoteCan anyone that has actually seen the show 'whale wars' make a comment about how they drastically decreased whale deaths by japanese whale fishing vessels? I have watched over 25 episodes of the show and the last time I watched it the sea shepard and its crew were getting their asses handed to them by the japanese whaling fleet. Their high powered water cannons and LRAD systems were holding off the Sea Shepard and after they watched several whales get slaughtered in front of them, they got pissed off and actually rammed the nisshin maru. Has anyone seen the show and knows what the sea shepard crew has done to reduce whaling operations by the Japanese 'research' vessels by 50% Bueller? Bueller? I watched every episode - mainly for the comedic value. What a hoot. A couple of hot girls, but for the most part - a bunch of nerds/eco-terrorist wannabes who screwed up about everything they touched. After the first episode where they tried to launch the zodiac and ended up dumping all the crew into the frigid water - I was hooked. Then there was the time they had to call the Nisshin and enlist their help to try to find the boat that was sent out to harass them. I'm totally against whaling, but I'm amazed that the Japanese captain showed such restraint when these idiots were endangering his crew and vessel. I hope they get their asses handed to them in court as much as they did on the high seas. There seems to be much more effective ways to impact the whaling. I think the show was much more about making money than anything. I'd like to see where that money went.The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites