Who WILL BE the GOP Candidate for President in 2012?

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Ok, CNN has broached the subject and here are the people they think might be in the running.

Who do YOU think it WILL be. Not want to be, but WILL be.

We can keep checking this to see how close people's predictions are.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/09/gop.potential.candidates/index.html?hpt=C2

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[kelpdiver 2]

It will be someone that emerges at this upcoming election as a leader. That is if they are successful. if not, then they'll probably put up Palin, this election's equivalent to Bob Dole.

[Gawain 0]

I understand why people are voting for Gov. Romney, but he is the last person I want to see get the GOP nomination. He is a RINO in my opinion, and a marginally successful governor. The business acumen is appealing, but without some real political teeth, the system in DC can stonewall you with no effort at all.

Gov. Palin is too divisive.

This far out...I like Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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I understand why people are voting for Gov. Romney, but he is the last person I want to see get the GOP nomination. He is a RINO in my opinion, and a marginally successful governor. The business acumen is appealing, but without some real political teeth, the system in DC can stonewall you with no effort at all.

Gov. Palin is too divisive.
Don't you mean, Gov. Palin is too stupid.

This far out...I like Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich.

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Rick Perry doesn't really have a chance. One, he's a fire hazard with all of that hair spray, but two, he'll be seen as GW part 2: electric boogaloo.

His politics doesn't even come into play, perception is important. Obviously politics and experience don't matter, Hopey McChangey was elected.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[billvon 3,116]

>That is if they are successful. if not, then they'll probably put up Palin,
>this election's equivalent to Bob Dole.

I hope so. She would be by far the most entertaining candidate.

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>That is if they are successful. if not, then they'll probably put up Palin,
>this election's equivalent to Bob Dole.

I hope so. She would be by far the most entertaining candidate.

My stomach churned at the thought of that woman getting another shot at ruining the GOP. I hope her and Ron Paul go off in search of a new career path prior to 2012.

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

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This just in;

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Romney wins Southern GOP straw poll

Former presidential candidate Mitt Romney won a straw poll Saturday at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans.

Romney, who received 439 votes of 1,806 cast - or 24 percent of the ballots - defeated former presidential contender Ron Paul by a single vote.

Sarah Palin came in third, garnering 18 percent of the votes.

Source: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/10/romney-wins-southern-gop-straw-poll/?hpt=T2

Numbers are quite a bit different than what we're currently seeing in our informal poll. Ours has Romney ahead at 48% with Palin and Paul at 10% each at the time of this posting. Of course, in theirs it's who they want as opposed to who they think will be.

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I understand why people are voting for Gov. Romney, but he is the last person I want to see get the GOP nomination. He is a RINO in my opinion, and a marginally successful governor. The business acumen is appealing, but without some real political teeth, the system in DC can stonewall you with no effort at all.

Gov. Palin is too divisive.

This far out...I like Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich.

Gingrich = too much baggage

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If they are smart, they will avoid candidates with a goofy and/or extremist slant, such as Palin, Gingrich, Cheney, Paul, etc. They go with somebody like that and even with an Obama backlash (if there is one) they hand him the election.

They need an intelligent, non-goofy, centrist; not another cartoonish caricature with 8th grade language skills.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Very short (for me) version: I'm predicting probably Romney or Huckabee. All the others either have too many negatives or insufficient positives.

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Very short (for me) version: I'm predicting probably Romney or Huckabee. All the others either have too many negatives or insufficient positives.

So basically you're predicting an Obama victory?

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I'm really, really, really hoping for Pailin. The more coverage she gets, the funnier the year will be.

Remster

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Very short (for me) version: I'm predicting probably Romney or Huckabee. All the others either have too many negatives or insufficient positives.

Probably Romney, if not Huckfinabee.

I don't see the ghey for Gingrich crowd, he has bagage.

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Very short (for me) version: I'm predicting probably Romney or Huckabee. All the others either have too many negatives or insufficient positives.

So basically you're predicting an Obama victory?

Regardless of who wins the GOP nod, 4 years won't be enough time to forget the horrid GOP. It's really OBama's to fuck up, all he's done so far is to better things, so the real question is: who in 2016? Hillary? If jobs are good enough, could be her, of course teh morons elected GWB via EV's after Clinton did a great job, Gire should have been a lock. As an aside, just think what 911 would have been like in teh aftermath with Gore. It would have changed everything, 911 would have happened either way, just the way it was dealt with would have been different.

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I'm really, really, really hoping for Pailin. The more coverage she gets, the funnier the year will be.

I know, I miss Bush too . She's GWB's little sister, it will be fun to watch teh primaries. My prediction is that she won't run, she's just cashing in and a loss in the primaries could be expenseive to her and she is all about the money, manipulating RW extremists for that cash.

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Regardless of who wins the GOP nod, 4 years won't be enough time to forget the horrid GOP.

No one here has any doubt that when it comes to the 2012 election, your opinion has no value. There is nothing that could happen that would lead you do do anything but support him.

The question of 2012 is really about the millions of voters that switched from Bush in 2004 to Obama in 2008. As well as the Jewish voters who just love how he's been handling the Israel and Iran questions. Usually a sure Democratic vote, they may sit out.

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No one here has any doubt that when it comes to the 2012 election, your opinion has no value.

I'm glad you speak for everyone. Also, it's fun to read you and Belgian pretend not to be Repiblicans; I really can't blame you, if the Dems stunk that bad but I was compelled to still be Dem, I would call myself independent too.

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There is nothing that could happen that would lead you do do anything but support him.

Really? I didn't vote for Clinton either time, hope that doesn't fuck up your ad hominem too much.

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The question of 2012 is really about the millions of voters that switched from Bush in 2004 to Obama in 2008.

Really? Voter turnout in the 2004 general was 123.5M http://elections.gmu.edu/Turnout_2004G.html, turnout in 2008 was 132.6M http://elections.gmu.edu/Turnout_2008G.html

Obama won by 10M votes, there were 9.1M more voters who turned out from 2004 to 2008, mostly young but about 2M were new blacks. Next time I need to prove you wrong, at least make it a challenge please.

Point is, very few switched over, mostly new young voters and a small % of new balck voters made the diff, altho even w/o the new black voters the new young vote was the deal-maker. Me thinks it's your opinion not given a lot of credence.

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As well as the Jewish voters who just love how he's been handling the Israel and Iran questions. Usually a sure Democratic vote, they may sit out.

The Jewish vote is nominal as well that vote goes both drections, there are plenty of Lieberman's out there who vote R. I think the wildcard that Obama stiched up with the Sotomayer nomination/appointment will be the Hispanic vote, the 2nd largest demographic other than whites. It's hard to believe you couldn't see that and thought the Jewish community was that impressive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States 2.7M Jewish by religion, and shrinking. Hell, Muslims are on the upswing as compared to Jewish folks. I'm guessing you did a lot of guessing in this post. I do research.

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Very short (for me) version: I'm predicting probably Romney or Huckabee. All the others either have too many negatives or insufficient positives.

So basically you're predicting an Obama victory?

Too early to predict. If you're saying that Romney or Huckabee don't have a chance to win, I'd say it's way too early to say that with any conviction, especially with Romney.

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Very short (for me) version: I'm predicting probably Romney or Huckabee. All the others either have too many negatives or insufficient positives.

So basically you're predicting an Obama victory?

Too early to predict. If you're saying that Romney or Huckabee don't have a chance to win, I'd say it's way too early to say that with any conviction, especially with Romney.

Interesting that 2 of our vaunted members of SC wish to see the good ole days return to the white house in a President Barbour.

President Warren G. Harding, President Woodrow Wilson, President McKinley, President Calvin Coolidge, and President Harry S. Truman

AT least Harry told em to go fuck themselves Mikkee

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Very short (for me) version: I'm predicting probably Romney or Huckabee. All the others either have too many negatives or insufficient positives.

So basically you're predicting an Obama victory?

Too early to predict. If you're saying that Romney or Huckabee don't have a chance to win, I'd say it's way too early to say that with any conviction, especially with Romney.

I see them as has been candidates. After losing a number of times, it's time to give it up. The GOP needs new blood, just as the Democrats rejected the old guard for Obama.

The Mormon baggage will always be a problem for Romney.

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>That is if they are successful. if not, then they'll probably put up Palin,
>this election's equivalent to Bob Dole.

I hope so. She would be by far the most entertaining candidate.

My stomach churned at the thought of that woman getting another shot at ruining the GOP. I hope her and Ron Paul go off in search of a new career path prior to 2012.

Just curious, why would one put Ron Paul in the same bracket as Palin? As much as I would love Ron Paul in office, too many people hate the guy for him to have a chance, and I just don't get it.

Its obvious why liberals don't like him, but why do so many conservatives hate him. I'd seriously like to know. Everyone I talk to just thinks he's a nutter, yet he has more common sense and represents the common man more than anybody I've seen in my short lifetime. Am I missing something?

Is it his national defense ideals that scare people off? Those that think our country is doomed if we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

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>That is if they are successful. if not, then they'll probably put up Palin,
>this election's equivalent to Bob Dole.

I hope so. She would be by far the most entertaining candidate.

My stomach churned at the thought of that woman getting another shot at ruining the GOP. I hope her and Ron Paul go off in search of a new career path prior to 2012.

Just curious, why would one put Ron Paul in the same bracket as Palin? As much as I would love Ron Paul in office, too many people hate the guy for him to have a chance, and I just don't get it.

Its obvious why liberals don't like him, but why do so many conservatives hate him. I'd seriously like to know. Everyone I talk to just thinks he's a nutter, yet he has more common sense and represents the common man more than anybody I've seen in my short lifetime. Am I missing something?

Is it his national defense ideals that scare people off? Those that think our country is doomed if we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Here's a synopsis of Ron Paul's various political views:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul#Political_positions

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>That is if they are successful. if not, then they'll probably put up Palin,
>this election's equivalent to Bob Dole.

I hope so. She would be by far the most entertaining candidate.

My stomach churned at the thought of that woman getting another shot at ruining the GOP. I hope her and Ron Paul go off in search of a new career path prior to 2012.

Just curious, why would one put Ron Paul in the same bracket as Palin? As much as I would love Ron Paul in office, too many people hate the guy for him to have a chance, and I just don't get it.

Its obvious why liberals don't like him, but why do so many conservatives hate him. I'd seriously like to know. Everyone I talk to just thinks he's a nutter, yet he has more common sense and represents the common man more than anybody I've seen in my short lifetime. Am I missing something?

Is it his national defense ideals that scare people off? Those that think our country is doomed if we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Here's a synopsis of Ron Paul's various political views:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul#Political_positions

And....??? I am fully aware of Ron Paul's political positions. Wiki's clever way of wording a bunch of stuff I already know about him doesn't really change my opinion.

I was mainly wondering as to what conservatives and or independents didn't like about him.

I really wouldn't expect anybody that think Obama's doing a good job would ever like Ron Paul. The two are as polar opposite as they get.

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>As much as I would love Ron Paul in office, too many people hate the
>guy for him to have a chance, and I just don't get it.

He represents too much of a change for most people, and his platform is not very realistic. I'd like to see him in the presidency; he would have to rapidly change his platforms to match reality, but overall it would be a positive change IMO.

(However, I agree that he is sort of the diametric opposite of Palin - a smart guy who doesn't subscribe to any of the more thoughtless political buzzwords masquerading as philosophies.)