Skyrad 0 #1 April 9, 2010 This is simply terrible, the woman involved should be prosceuted for neglect. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100409/twl-unwanted-adopted-boy-sent-back-to-ru-3fd0ae9.html An adopted child sent back half way across the world alone with a note saying that he is no longer wanted! Terrible.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 April 9, 2010 Quote This is simply terrible, the woman involved should be prosceuted for neglect.http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100409/twl-unwanted-adopted-boy-sent-back-to-ru-3fd0ae9.html An adopted child sent back half way across the world alone with a note saying that he is no longer wanted! Terrible. It's amazing how somebody has to do sh*t like this to even think of it. I hope the local district attorney is looking into charges. Never mind neglect, I'm thinking abandonment, endangering, lawyer types can add to the list...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #3 April 9, 2010 Quote Quote This is simply terrible, the woman involved should be prosceuted for neglect.http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100409/twl-unwanted-adopted-boy-sent-back-to-ru-3fd0ae9.html An adopted child sent back half way across the world alone with a note saying that he is no longer wanted! Terrible. It's amazing how somebody has to do sh*t like this to even think of it. I hope the local district attorney is looking into charges. Never mind neglect, I'm thinking abandonment, endangering, lawyer types can add to the list... Well why don't they just do a "late term abortion" now? I'm sure it would be ok in the liberal mind to do that - solves all the problems.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 April 9, 2010 QuoteAn adopted child sent back half way across the world alone with a note saying that he is no longer wanted! Terrible. Poorly handled? Absolutely. I'm not going to come to the defense of the woman involved, but we really don't know anything about her circumstances in this yet. I think we'd pretty much all agree she attempted to do the right thing to begin with in adopting a child. However, what happens when a person adopts a child and only after several months figures out they can't deal with him for any one of a number of reasons? I don't know. I've never been in that situation. I'd like to think I wouldn't just put him back on the plane, but people do return children all the time in that situation. This just happens to be an international case. It's f'ed up; no doubt about that, but I don't necessarily think the woman is some kind of monster. She didn't take the child out to the middle of the desert and kill him. She didn't sell the kid into the sex trade. People do far worse things to kids all the time. That's not an excuse, but understand it could be a lot worse.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #5 April 9, 2010 Quote .... An adopted child sent back half way across the world alone with a note saying that he is no longer wanted! Terrible. How is it possible that an unmarried single person can adopt a child??? In my country, that's simply impossible. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #6 April 9, 2010 Quote Quote .... An adopted child sent back half way across the world alone with a note saying that he is no longer wanted! Terrible. How is it possible that an unmarried single person can adopt a child??? In my country, that's simply impossible. Perhaps she went to Wisconsin and married herself.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #7 April 9, 2010 Quote .... Perhaps she went to Wisconsin and married herself. Yes. I know. Everything's possible in the land of free. Oh wait, you said Wisconsin? It IS possible, I guess .... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 April 9, 2010 Quote How is it possible that an unmarried single person can adopt a child??? In my country, that's simply impossible. Well then, quite obviously, anyone else who does things differently from your country is just plain wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #9 April 9, 2010 Quote How is it possible that an unmarried single person can adopt a child??? In my country, that's simply impossible. I can't speak for the rest of the country, but I would prefer to see a child adopted by a good single parent or unmarried couple rather than spending his life in an institution and/or foster care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #10 April 9, 2010 Quote Quote How is it possible that an unmarried single person can adopt a child??? In my country, that's simply impossible. Well then, quite obviously, anyone else who does things differently from your country is just plain wrong. That's JR conclusion. Think (what) how you like. Anyhow, as a single person here is not allowed to adopt a child (not even from own country) - never ever a single person (nor a couple) in Germany sent back a little unwelcome child into the nowhere. Yep, these are our laws. Not bad, I'm sure. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #11 April 9, 2010 Quote Quote How is it possible that an unmarried single person can adopt a child??? In my country, that's simply impossible. I can't speak for the rest of the country, but I would prefer to see a child adopted by a good single parent or unmarried couple rather than spending his life in an institution and/or foster care. If the single parent is in the good financial position to stay with the little one all day, well - that might be OK. Usually, singles do work. And then? The children's home will be next place for the kid. The unmarried couple (no matter which gender) is a different case. I'd fully support it if such couple is registered as a cohabitee and is wishing to adopt a child. Provided a close background check, of course. A child is no commodity. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #12 April 9, 2010 QuoteIf the single parent is in the good financial position to stay with the little one all day, well - that might be OK. Usually, singles do work. And then? There are MANY married couples with children in this country in which both parents work, so neither parent can stay with the child all day. Typically, they take the child to daycare or hire a nanny, or sometimes they have other relatives who can help out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #13 April 9, 2010 Quote Quote If the single parent is in the good financial position to stay with the little one all day, well - that might be OK. Usually, singles do work. And then? There are MANY married couples with children in this country in which both parents work, so neither parent can stay with the child all day. Typically, they take the child to daycare or hire a nanny, or sometimes they have other relatives who can help out. Yep. Married couples and thier kids. Own kids. We're talking about adopted kids. Here, adopted kids have to be under special protection. If a couple can't ensure the kid they want to adopt will be under best attendance/presence of at least one parent, story's over. If they're older (the wannabe parents) than about 40, no adoption. That's it. The average waiting time for a couple with the adoption wish is about 2 yrs. They are checked for every little detail. Hey, you or JR: Complain as long as you want. These are our laws, which I fully support. Kids are no toys. Cya dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #14 April 9, 2010 Quote Quote Quote How is it possible that an unmarried single person can adopt a child??? In my country, that's simply impossible. I can't speak for the rest of the country, but I would prefer to see a child adopted by a good single parent or unmarried couple rather than spending his life in an institution and/or foster care. If the single parent is in the good financial position to stay with the little one all day, well - that might be OK. Usually, singles do work. And then? The children's home will be next place for the kid. The unmarried couple (no matter which gender) is a different case. I'd fully support it if such couple is registered as a cohabitee and is wishing to adopt a child. Provided a close background check, of course. A child is no commodity. Is it illegal to be a single parent in Germany?Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #15 April 9, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote How is it possible that an unmarried single person can adopt a child??? In my country, that's simply impossible. I can't speak for the rest of the country, but I would prefer to see a child adopted by a good single parent or unmarried couple rather than spending his life in an institution and/or foster care. If the single parent is in the good financial position to stay with the little one all day, well - that might be OK. Usually, singles do work. And then? The children's home will be next place for the kid. The unmarried couple (no matter which gender) is a different case. I'd fully support it if such couple is registered as a cohabitee and is wishing to adopt a child. Provided a close background check, of course. A child is no commodity. Is it illegal to be a single parent in Germany? Apparently, and if you're married, you're only allowed to have your own kids...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #16 April 9, 2010 QuoteHey, you or JR: Complain as long as you want. I'm not complaining about anything. You asked how a single person ended up adopting a child, and I was offering an explanation. I'm now thinking you're not really interested in an explanation, so nevermind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #17 April 9, 2010 Quote .... Is it illegal to be a single parent in Germany? Of an adopted child, yes. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #18 April 9, 2010 Im curious as to the reasoning behind such a law. Technically its perfectly legal to have a one night stand, get knocked up and be a single parent yet for some reason it is illegal for a single person to adopt. I guess I'm just trying to figure out why.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #19 April 9, 2010 Quote Im curious as to the reasoning behind such a law. Technically its perfectly legal to have a one night stand, get knocked up and be a single parent yet for some reason it is illegal for a single person to adopt. I guess I'm just trying to figure out why. If you really need a detailed explanation on that, I guess you're quite young/not very experienced/never were in touch with such things or simply not informed. Use your brain and logic. There are reasons why kids have to be protected. Especially those w/o any strong protection from a family in the background. Kids w/o a nest. That has nothing to do with the results of a one night stand. If you need a further explanation showing the difference, I can't help you any more. Go to next children's home and ask. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #20 April 9, 2010 This made me curious too, so I looked it up: http://adoption.state.gov/country/germany.html Now this is talking about adoption between the U.S. and Germany (not just within Germany), but . . . QuoteIn addition to these U.S. requirements for prospective adoptive parents, Germany also has the following requirements for prospective adoptive parents: . . . MARRIAGE REQUIREMENTS: Singles, not in a relationship, as well as one member of an unmarried heterosexual couple, can adopt a child in Germany. . . . I also didn't see anything about adoptive parents being required to stay with their adopted children 24/7 (not go to work), so I'm thinking that's probably not true either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #21 April 9, 2010 Your link showing intercountry adoption is not reflecting our German adoption laws. BTW: Intercountry adoptions are absolutely rare and mainly have a family background (parents from different countries f.e.). Adoption of a (German) child by a single German person - not a person living in a registered partnership as I described before - in Germany is not possible. Search all night, if you like. Have fun. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #22 April 9, 2010 QuoteYour link showing intercountry adoption is not reflecting our German adoption laws. BTW: Intercountry adoptions are absolutely rare and mainly have a family background (parents from different countries f.e.). Regardless of how rare it is, I find it interesting that (you claim) Germany would not allow a single person to adopt a child within Germany, while having no rules against a single person from the U.S. adopting a child from Germany. QuoteSearch all night, if you like. No thanks. I think I've seen enough to know how much credit to give your claims on this topic. And it's not really the topic of the thread anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #23 April 9, 2010 Quote Quote Your link showing intercountry adoption is not reflecting our German adoption laws. BTW: Intercountry adoptions are absolutely rare and mainly have a family background (parents from different countries f.e.). Regardless of how rare it is, I find it interesting that (you claim) Germany would not allow a single person to adopt a child within Germany, while having no rules against a single person from the U.S. adopting a child from Germany. Quote Search all night, if you like. No thanks. I think I've seen enough to know how much credit to give your claims on this topic. And it's not really the topic of the thread anyway. JFI: Few of the very rare *adoptions* between the US and Germany happend when your young movie beauty Zsa Zsa Gabor married the German *prince* Frederic von Anhalt, he adoped several German "sons", which are princes now That's one of the cases where singles are allowed to adopt kids - kids, which are adults. That's the biggest difference at all, the age of the adopted kid. What I said - have fun. There's alot to read. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #24 April 10, 2010 Quote Use your brain and logic. that's the german logic and reasoning I'd expect. oh wait... no, that's the kind of argument I've seen 13 year olds use thinking it's effective.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #25 April 10, 2010 Quote Quote How is it possible that an unmarried single person can adopt a child??? In my country, that's simply impossible. Well then, quite obviously, anyone else who does things differently from your country is just plain wrong. Says the man who has never complained about how any other country handles their affairs! Stop, please, I can barely breath!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
