shropshire 0 #26 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. .. and a lot besides, I'd wager. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #27 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #28 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. Right, we can only walk OR chew gum; not both simultaneously. Clinton took unemp from 7% to <4%, turned the defict into a surplus, leveled off the debt increase, kept us out of wars, made education available for all, blew the GDP thru the roof, cut the military slightly and managed to get a BJ every now and then on top of all that.....all at the same time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #29 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Mr. Micawber in "David Copperfield".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #30 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. I have asked you this before and if you have answered forgive my forgetfulness How much is enough?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #31 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. I have asked you this before and if you have answered forgive my forgetfulness How much is enough? "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery."... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #32 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. I have asked you this before and if you have answered forgive my forgetfulness How much is enough? "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Put it in dollars since you are talking US taxes I am not taking the time to figure out your bullshit response"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #33 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. I have asked you this before and if you have answered forgive my forgetfulness How much is enough? "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Put it in dollars since you are talking US taxes I am not taking the time to figure out your bullshit response You should read more and type less.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #34 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. I have asked you this before and if you have answered forgive my forgetfulness How much is enough? "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Put it in dollars since you are talking US taxes I am not taking the time to figure out your bullshit response You should read more and type less. Never a straight answer have you WFJ"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #35 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. I have asked you this before and if you have answered forgive my forgetfulness How much is enough? "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Put it in dollars since you are talking US taxes I am not taking the time to figure out your bullshit response You should read more and type less. Never a straight answer have you WFJ It's a very famous quote that is highly relevant. Not my fault if you skipped English Lit. in school.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #36 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Mr. Micawber in "David Copperfield". We pay too much in taxes because the government spends too much. Cut the bs expenses and we can cut taxes AND have decent health care for all.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #37 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. I have asked you this before and if you have answered forgive my forgetfulness How much is enough? "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Put it in dollars since you are talking US taxes I am not taking the time to figure out your bullshit response You should read more and type less. Never a straight answer have you WFJ It's a very famous quote that is highly relevant. Not my fault if you skipped English Lit. in school. And you give a perfect example about how all things (in your coo coo land world) can only be viewed from your perspective and background Arrogance is your friend So, you have no answer you care to give here\ Childish on your part"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #38 March 28, 2010 I gave you the answer. If you would read more and type less you would have understood it, just like Belgian did.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #39 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. Right, we can only walk OR chew gum; not both simultaneously. Clinton took unemp from 7% to <4%, turned the defict into a surplus, leveled off the debt increase, kept us out of wars, made education available for all, blew the GDP thru the roof, cut the military slightly and managed to get a BJ every now and then on top of all that.....all at the same time. You just go right on believing your idol was responsible for all that and ignore the fact that he inherited a rising economy and didn't do anything until both Senate and House were under Republican control, not even when Dems controlled everything. Best thing Clinton ever did for the economy was to keep his quim scented fingers off of it.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #40 March 28, 2010 Quote I gave you the answer. If you would read more and type less you would have understood it, just like Belgian did. You gave nothing So, to try and avoid your games try it this way What percentage of ones income should be given to the government starting at what income level? YOU said we are not taxed enough In the terms outlined here, how much is enough? I dont expect an answer but the question is now on record here"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #41 March 28, 2010 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3829537;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25; Thanks for the confirmation.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #42 March 28, 2010 Quote www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3829537;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25; Thanks for the confirmation. Called it didnt iI! You will not answer"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #43 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Mr. Micawber in "David Copperfield". We pay too much in taxes because the government spends too much. Cut the bs expenses and we can cut taxes AND have decent health care for all. I already said that in my post #25, which is quoted here. And those who think that "the BS expenditures" are "welfare and social entitlements" instead of the huge military budget that has been used to keep the US in a state of permanent warfare (hot, cold or tepid) since 1947 - think that way (wrongly) because they've been indoctrinated into believing it. The mega corporations that control the military-industrial complex also control The Message (through the media they own) as well as Congress (which is entirely bought and paid-for). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #44 March 28, 2010 Quote Quote www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3829537;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25; Thanks for the confirmation. Called it didnt iI! You will not answer The answer was plain for anyone that can read and is literate in the wider sense..... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #45 March 28, 2010 What percentage of ones income should be given to the government starting at what income level? YOU said we are not taxed enough In the terms outlined here, how much is enough? I dont expect an answer but the question is now on record here"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #46 March 28, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that. Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. Right, we can only walk OR chew gum; not both simultaneously. Clinton took unemp from 7% to <4%, turned the defict into a surplus, leveled off the debt increase, kept us out of wars, made education available for all, blew the GDP thru the roof, cut the military slightly and managed to get a BJ every now and then on top of all that.....all at the same time. You just go right on believing your idol was responsible for all that and ignore the fact that he inherited a rising economy and didn't do anything until both Senate and House were under Republican control, not even when Dems controlled everything. Best thing Clinton ever did for the economy was to keep his quim scented fingers off of it. He inherited a recovering economy, recovering from that fascist pig's overspending and tax cuts. Why was it recovering? GHWB cut spending, military and otherwise, and raised taxes. Clinton did more of the same, cut spending, cut the military and raised taxes. It was still a mess, unemp at 7% is not great, way better than what Obama inherited; 8% and flying upward, it had risen 3.4% from Feb 08 to Feb 09. But Clinton inherited what was a stable but struggling economy thx to GHWB's actions. So Clinton didn't start cutting the military before Jan 95? The 1993 Omnibus spending bill didn't bring taxes up to 40% from 31%? Receipts didn't start rolling in before Jan 95? Unemp didn't drop from Jan 93 to Jan 95? The debt/deficit wasn't underway of repair before Jan 95? Yea, you oughtta sit down on those issues, you won't like the result of the research. Clinton's fingers were all over it, if not, tell us about him shuitting down the economy to get the turds in congress to act right. That's what I thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #47 March 28, 2010 Quote What percentage of ones income should be given to the government starting at what income level? YOU said we are not taxed enough In the terms outlined here, how much is enough? I dont expect an answer but the question is now on record here I'll say it here, this is a vague overview, but to move the top brkt to 50-60% is the most healthy, history has simply proven this since WWI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #48 March 28, 2010 "tell us about him shuitting down the economy to get the turds in congress to act right. That's what I thought. " Sure, but I expect you would cling to your illusions in spite of what the Constitution prescribes for the process of arriving at a budget. Do go get some milk and cookies, Matlock starts in a few minutes. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #49 March 28, 2010 Quote "tell us about him shuitting down the economy to get the turds in congress to act right. That's what I thought. " Sure, but I expect you would cling to your illusions in spite of what the Constitution prescribes for the process of arriving at a budget. Do go get some milk and cookies, Matlock starts in a few minutes. So after all this: He inherited a recovering economy, recovering from that fascist pig's overspending and tax cuts. Why was it recovering? GHWB cut spending, military and otherwise, and raised taxes. Clinton did more of the same, cut spending, cut the military and raised taxes. It was still a mess, unemp at 7% is not great, way better than what Obama inherited; 8% and flying upward, it had risen 3.4% from Feb 08 to Feb 09. But Clinton inherited what was a stable but struggling economy thx to GHWB's actions. So Clinton didn't start cutting the military before Jan 95? The 1993 Omnibus spending bill didn't bring taxes up to 40% from 31%? Receipts didn't start rolling in before Jan 95? Unemp didn't drop from Jan 93 to Jan 95? The debt/deficit wasn't underway of repair before Jan 95? Yea, you oughtta sit down on those issues, you won't like the result of the research. Clinton's fingers were all over it, if not, tell us about him shuitting down the economy to get the turds in congress to act right. That's what I thought. That's all ya got? Ok, you're done then. Constitutional or not, Clinton shut it down to get his way and even after all the changes made from 93 to 95, he still DEMANDED more and got them via shutdown. It was his economy from Jan 93 to Jan 01; I have never heard of anyone trying to assign the credit otherwise other than you and Mike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #50 March 28, 2010 You have so totally missed the entire point. Best turn on your TV. Don't want to miss Matlock. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
