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The President has agreed not only to renewal of the Strategic Arms Limitations Treaty of 1991, but also to a bilateral nuclear arms reduction by the Russians and the US. I applaud moves like this. I've even got to tip my hat to Hillary Clinton - things like this don't happen without the involvement of the Secretary of State.

I see the Democrats and Republicans in the Senate working together to get this ratified, too. Sure, there will be holdouts, etc., those who say we are giving in too much. Security issues are typically those that get fairly good bipartisan approval or rejection.

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The President has agreed not only to renewal of the Strategic Arms Limitations Treaty of 1991, but also to a bilateral nuclear arms reduction by the Russians and the US. I applaud moves like this. I've even got to tip my hat to Hillary Clinton - things like this don't happen without the involvement of the Secretary of State.

I see the Democrats and Republicans in the Senate working together to get this ratified, too. Sure, there will be holdouts, etc., those who say we are giving in too much. Security issues are typically those that get fairly good bipartisan approval or rejection.

Now if they can just get out of Iraq/AFG and decide to do as GHWB and Clinton did and cut military spendinf we can start to undo mush of the idiocy that has prevailed since post WWII and the military proliferation of FR.

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You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

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Yea, unless that child needs HC and his parents are poor. Oh yea, the very Bill NaziBush vetoed was done 2 weeks after Obama took office. Kind of ironic that pic you posted with HC as the theme.

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Yea, unless that child needs HC and his parents are poor. Oh yea, the very Bill NaziBush vetoed was done 2 weeks after Obama took office. Kind of ironic that pic you posted with HC as the theme.

What, Lucky - never heard of Medicaid?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Yea, unless that child needs HC and his parents are poor. Oh yea, the very Bill NaziBush vetoed was done 2 weeks after Obama took office. Kind of ironic that pic you posted with HC as the theme.

What, Lucky - never heard of Medicaid?

what??? You recommend one of the #1 deniers of services?

damn dude

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Yea, unless that child needs HC and his parents are poor. Oh yea, the very Bill NaziBush vetoed was done 2 weeks after Obama took office. Kind of ironic that pic you posted with HC as the theme.

What, Lucky - never heard of Medicaid?

what??? You recommend one of the #1 deniers of services?

damn dude

MedicAID is not the same as MedicARE.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Yea, unless that child needs HC and his parents are poor. Oh yea, the very Bill NaziBush vetoed was done 2 weeks after Obama took office. Kind of ironic that pic you posted with HC as the theme.

What, Lucky - never heard of Medicaid?

what??? You recommend one of the #1 deniers of services?

damn dude

MedicAID is not the same as MedicARE.

I know

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Medicare is the one with the denial rate nearly double the private insurers, not Medicaid.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Oh yea, the very Bill NaziBush vetoed

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What, Lucky - never heard of Medicaid?

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Medicare is the one with the denial rate nearly double the private insurers, not Medicaid.

"SO HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT STRATEGIC ARMS TREATY?"

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Now if they can just get out of Iraq/AFG and decide to do as GHWB and Clinton did and cut military spendinf we can start to undo mush of the idiocy that has prevailed since post WWII and the military proliferation of FR.

Obama has done a pretty good job of emphasizing the separate issues of and strategies in Iraq and Afghanistan, but when I see the two separated only by a forward slash it worries me a bit. I think a little more pragmatism is in order as much as people would like to "Stick it to W" by pulling out of Afghanistan.

I'm also reluctant to accept the whole of the cold war as being "idiocy", if that's what you're implying. The technologies developed in the name of "beating those damn commies" really have been amazing.

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Medicare is the one with the denial rate nearly double the private insurers, not Medicaid.

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I was putting them together
As they soon will be if we cant stop what is going on
I will all be the same

But I did get you point

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Yea, unless that child needs HC and his parents are poor.

Couples who are "poor" should improve their financial situation before they bring a child into the world.

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Yea, unless that child needs HC and his parents are poor.

Couples who are "poor" should improve their financial situation before they bring a child into the world.

Wouldn't it be nice if life really worked that way? Really, can you say you planned everything out? And some people are just never very well off, some people never can jump very high and some people are born into poor families with parents of low education who often produce off spring of the same and are often poor. But I agree with you, the less educated, poor a person is, the less they are eligible to have HC as well as their child; that's the glorious America I know.

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I'm also reluctant to accept the whole of the cold war as being "idiocy", if that's what you're implying. The technologies developed in the name of "beating those damn commies" really have been amazing.

Really? When were the Russians/USSR ever a viable fighting force? When were they ever militarily tough and a conventional danger? When did they have a military that could reach out and touch vs guard their homeland?

What technologiues, military armament technologies? If so, it BK'd our country in teh process, FR and GWB are the ones responsible for hammering this mess out, hope whatever technologies we did were worth it. Let's see, FR revitalived the B-1, what a great technological idea ; what a fine flying piece of shit . The F-117 didn't come till later, as well as the B-2, which due to missle systems is basically out-dated already. Hey, I know, I wonder what being a peace-loving country might do for all that? NAH, we're Americans ; fuck peace

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Yea, unless that child needs HC and his parents are poor. Oh yea, the very Bill NaziBush vetoed was done 2 weeks after Obama took office. Kind of ironic that pic you posted with HC as the theme.

What, Lucky - never heard of Medicaid?

Was a child eligible for that on a ready basis? I hjave a feeling there are qualifications not as easy as plug-n-play. All I know is that just as GWB and your lovley party killed the Ergonomics Bill, GWB aslo vetoed the Children's health bill (maybe not the correct name) GWB's last year while 2 weeks into Obama's presidency, that bill was passed. Oh, the congress, I think 110th from 2007 t0 2009 where you say the Dems controlled it, they passd this and your #1 hero killed it. Why backdoor coverage thru Medicaid on a harder to qualify basis rather than just pass a law that makes kids eligible? Just like workplace injuries, why backdoor care thru workman's comp rather than have an ergo law for people with repetitive injuries? As people figure out how depraved the Republican Party really is, the more they'll be backshelved. What will you guys do if the D's win seats in November? Could happen, in the 1960's D's had 67 seats and they got the civil rts act passsed around that time as well as Medicare. November will be 4 ass kickings in a row and the R's aren't looking any better; the D's just grew a set of balls and Obama has waged war with reconcilliation and now recess appointments.

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But I agree with you, the less educated, poor a person is, the less they are eligible to have HC as well as their child; that's the glorious America I know.

Newsflash: The poor are eligible for medicaid

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But I agree with you, the less educated, poor a person is, the less they are eligible to have HC as well as their child; that's the glorious America I know.

Newsflash: The poor are eligible for medicaid

Right, but all that bureaucracy and chance for disqualification make it difficult, rather than just having an easy way to get medical care. Just as a worker can get workman's comp, why not have an ergonomic bill for faster care. In my state a person can get access, but there are disqualifiers everywhere. All these programs do is to look for ways to DQ people rather than an open system to allow people in, lke Obama's chilren's HC Bill that your guy vetoed and mine passed 2 weeks after he took office.

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Yea, unless that child needs HC and his parents are poor.

Couples who are "poor" should improve their financial situation before they bring a child into the world.

Tending towards the very unwelcome return of Eugenics!! Noone but NOONE has the right to say who can an who can not have kids or when.

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Yes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that.


Edit: Why did you immediately start a fight about HC in a thread congratulating the President on an arms reduction deal?

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Yes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that.


Edit: Why did you immediately start a fight about HC in a thread congratulating the President on an arms reduction deal?

Cause that is what he is getting paid to do

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Edit: Why did you immediately start a fight about HC in a thread congratulating the President on an arms reduction deal?

Because Captain 1976 posted the pic of the infant with thumbs down, made me think of GWB's vetoed child HC Bill and Obama's passed one 2 weeks after he took office.

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Yes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that.

- Other countries do and manage it

- We have no way to fund a military that is 8 times more expensive as that of #2, also matches the world in spending, however we find a way to pay for it.

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Yes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that.


Edit: Why did you immediately start a fight about HC in a thread congratulating the President on an arms reduction deal?

Cause that is what he is getting paid to do

Better nudge my employers then, cause I aint gettin' no check yet. Perhaps go wave down the helicopter outside and tell them I need my check.

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Yes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that.


Edit: Why did you immediately start a fight about HC in a thread congratulating the President on an arms reduction deal?

Cause that is what he is getting paid to do

Better nudge my employers then, cause I aint gettin' no check yet. Perhaps go wave down the helicopter outside and tell them I need my check.

YOU GOT A HELO????

Wow........

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Medicare is the one with the denial rate nearly double the private insurers, not Medicaid.

The number you should worry about is denial rate of LEGITIMATE claims. Medicare is a target of a huge number of fraudulent claims by those wonderful private sector service providers you so admire.

In 2008:
Medicare fraud recovered: $2.35 billion;

Individuals or entities barred from billing Medicare or Medicaid: 3,100

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Yes... free, quality, available healthcare with absolutely no disqualifiers would be great. The problem is that you have absolutely no way to fund, provide, or sustain a system anywhere close to that.

Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it.