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“Never in the history of the world has any measure been brought here so insidiously designed as to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers and to prevent any possibility of the employers providing work for the people.”

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Let me take a wild and wacky guess...... Yet another fucking American HC thread ...... yawn

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"This bill opens the door and invites the entrance into the political field of a power so vast, so powerful as to threaten the integrity of our institutions and to pull the pillars of the temple down upon the heads of our descendants."

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Only sort of....it was actually representative John Taber, Republican of New York, in 1935, speaking against the Social Security Act.

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Thank f**k for that [/relief]

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Only sort of....it was actually representative John Taber, Republican of New York, in 1935, speaking against the Social Security Act.

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The one that's now in the red...

And what exactly does that have to do with what I quoted?

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The one that's now in the red...

And what exactly does that have to do with what I quoted?

Odd - I would have sworn that I replied to post 5, not post 1.

Of course, the fact that current workers are paying for those now retired *does* fit in with the 'enslaving the workers' part of the quote in the post that I didn't respond to.

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And what exactly does that have to do with what I quoted?

Odd - I would have sworn that I replied to post 5, not post 1.

Of course, the fact that current workers are paying for those now retired *does* fit in with the 'enslaving the workers' part of the quote in the post that I didn't respond to.

I know quite a few people that would be in big trouble if it were not for their social security checks every month. If they did not have those checks coming in, the government (we) would end up supporting them anyway. Unless the right wants to leave them to starve. Either way, while there are numerous projections that show then end of funding for SS, there are as many people bending the numbers and changing things for their desired result as we have with climate change. As of yet I haven't heard of anyone not getting their check or any of the checks bouncing. I also never said that the system was perfect nor did I say that it shouldn't have some changes made. But it certainly wasn't the end of the world as we know it. I could say the exact same thing about the HC bill.

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I know quite a few people that would be in big trouble if it were not for their social security checks every month. If they did not have those checks coming in, the government (we) would end up supporting them anyway. Unless the right wants to leave them to starve.

Did you somehow miss most of the health care debate? It was truly the time for the libertarian "fuck 'em" wing of the GOP to shine.

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"This bill opens the door and invites the entrance into the political field of a power so vast, so powerful as to threaten the integrity of our institutions and to pull the pillars of the temple down upon the heads of our descendants."

Meanwhile the Iraq War has cost > 1T and that's not worth mention. The basic military operations are >600B per year, not a problem. A lot of the so-called social spending is from military retirements from an overblown military.

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Only sort of....it was actually representative John Taber, Republican of New York, in 1935, speaking against the Social Security Act.

The one that's now in the red...

Mostly due to payroll being down and why is that so? Because your hero tanked it and sat by saying, 'everything looks rosey here.'

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And what exactly does that have to do with what I quoted?

Odd - I would have sworn that I replied to post 5, not post 1.

Of course, the fact that current workers are paying for those now retired *does* fit in with the 'enslaving the workers' part of the quote in the post that I didn't respond to.

I'm with Mike, fuck the elderly

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If they did not have those checks coming in, the government (we) would end up supporting them anyway.

Not in Mike's world.

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I'm with Mike, fuck the elderly

You know, you run your mouth an AWFUL lot by lying about other people's views - do you always do that, or is it a recent thing for you?

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Only sort of....it was actually representative John Taber, Republican of New York, in 1935, speaking against the Social Security Act.

The one that's now in the red...

If the rescums were the party of fiscal responsibility and fairness the bastards would end the income cap on social security taxes.

Not one of the right wingnuts can come up with any cogent reasoning as to why the lowest income tax payers pay on 100% of their income, while the highest income tax payers pay less and less, in terms of a percentage of income, the more they make.

The same right wingnuts have gone NUTS at the use of "Majority Rules", with regard to the passage of the health care bill using rules well established in Congress.

Absolutely totally pathetic. And proud of it, too.

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You know, you run your mouth an AWFUL lot by lying about other people's views - do you always do that, or is it a recent thing for you?

How else can what you wrote be interpreted?

Be honest, Mike. Try to explain what you really mean, using your own words. No parroting right wing talking points.

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while the highest income tax payers pay less and less, in terms of a percentage of income, the more they make.

Really? Better go to the IRS site and look up the tax rate schedules.

But, while we're on the subject - maybe you can tell all us ignorant plebs which is greater - 15% of 30k, or 28% of 170k? We'd really like to know the answer so we can get our tax forms filled out.

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Absolutely totally pathetic. And proud of it, too.

We know, but we're still hoping you'll snap out of it.

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You know, you run your mouth an AWFUL lot by lying about other people's views - do you always do that, or is it a recent thing for you?

How else can what you wrote be interpreted?

Oh, gee...I don't know.... maybe that SocSec is now running in the red?

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Be honest, Mike. Try to explain what you really mean, using your own words. No parroting right wing talking points.

See above - and lemme know when YOU quit spouting the crap from the left, sport.

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Here's another chart for you, since you love them so much.

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while the highest income tax payers pay less and less, in terms of a percentage of income, the more they make.

Really? Better go to the IRS site and look up the tax rate schedules.

Since you confess to knowing SFA about statistics, I'll just point out to you that it's quite possible to have a very high gross income and still be in a low tax bracket. A good accountant helps.

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My favorite part of that set of charts you posted was the fine print on the lower left attributing the source to representative Mark Kirk (R). Truly an unbiased, reliable source. Nice one.

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