wmw999 2,589 #51 March 25, 2010 QuoteYou do know what is meant by targeting a seat, don't you? Your implication that Sarah wants people to do violence upon those people is just stupid beyond all belief.This whole uproar is beyond stupid; it's what comes of paying attention to Beavis and Butthead. Can't you just imagine those two looking at that map and saying "heh heh -- it's got guns." I'm sure there are those on the right who look at that map and think it's slyly funny because of the cross-hairs, just as there are those on the left who are outraged by the same thing. Let's all let them be amused and outraged. Because it's fucking stupid either way. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #52 March 25, 2010 >To be surprised when a small number of radicals resort to violence >is ignorant. If that's really true - and violence is a perhaps-not-common but expected result of political anger - then we have a good reason to shut down political protests. After all, we only guarantee the right to "peaceful assembly." If, as you say, it is ignorant to expect that, then that clause does not apply to political protest. I do not think that is the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #53 March 25, 2010 Quote>To be surprised when a small number of radicals resort to violence >is ignorant. If that's really true - and violence is a perhaps-not-common but expected result of political anger - then we have a good reason to shut down political protests. After all, we only guarantee the right to "peaceful assembly." If, as you say, it is ignorant to expect that, then that clause does not apply to political protest. I do not think that is the case. We are real close to seeing eye to eye on this. What I said was that it is ignorant to be surprised when it does happen, as in "Holy Shit! They got mad a smashed windows..who ever would have thought anyone would do such a thing?" All I'm saying to you, Bill, is that when politicians pass legislation as far reaching as this was, they have to be aware of the possible reactions to it. We can all hope it is peaceful, we can all want it to be peaceful, but our past does not allow us the luxury of being surprised when some idiots take a non-peaceful approach.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #54 March 25, 2010 [reply Let's all let them be amused and outraged. Because it's fucking stupid either way. Wendy P. +1 HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #55 March 25, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Those who make the laws and policies that govern our country have to be aware of the impact those laws and policies will have and cannot expect there to be no reaction. When you mess with peoples lives in a drastic manner, there will be a small number who take drastic actions in retaliation. To think people will lie down and just accept whatever is written into law without protest is ignorant. It was wrong when the parents of the current crop of bigots resorted to violence in response to the civil rights laws, and it is equally wrong now. With luck though, the South will secede.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #56 March 25, 2010 and is the stance of the left to "protect" shows as art and freedom of speech(unless of course they don't agree with the premise of the show) so yes, I can see those you typed about doing what you posted. Only the targets are different"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #57 March 25, 2010 Quotebut one of the defense's arguments was that they were acting as mob, and there wasn't individual responsibility that truly sickens me there is always individual choice/responsibility Quotethe person inciting the riot is blameless but he is blameless for the actions of those rioting - he is only responsible for incitement itself - and that would be weak if the 'mob' were adults and not so ready to be 'triggered' if he then participated, then he's blamed for both, separate, acts ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #58 March 25, 2010 I have no idea what you're saying here, other than (probably) "left=bad."Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #59 March 25, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Those who make the laws and policies that govern our country have to be aware of the impact those laws and policies will have and cannot expect there to be no reaction. When you mess with peoples lives in a drastic manner, there will be a small number who take drastic actions in retaliation. To think people will lie down and just accept whatever is written into law without protest is ignorant. It was wrong when the parents of the current crop of bigots resorted to violence in response to the civil rights laws, and it is equally wrong now. With luck though, the South will secede. Yes sir, it was and is wrong. No argument there. As you remember, the South tried to secede. The attempt was met with violence. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #60 March 25, 2010 Quote I have no idea what you're saying here, other than (probably) "left=bad."Wendy P. Close enough "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #61 March 25, 2010 >Close enough Sadly I think that you really base your entire viewpoint on that; you don't seem to espouse any other political principle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #62 March 25, 2010 More perfectly understandable behavior: ============= "DROP DEAD": White Powder Package Sent to Rep. Weiner's Office Updated 5:53 PM EDT, Thu, Mar 25, 2010 Authorities are investigating a package with white powder and an angry letter that referenced the health care legislation that was sent to Congressman Weiner's Kew Gardens office today. The letter said the Congressman should "drop dead" and complained about the historic health care legislation passed by Congress this week. ============= Sniper threat to kids after US health reform vote Updated Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:28am AEDT Death threats have been made against some Democratic members of the US Congress who voted for president Barack Obama's historic healthcare reforms. . . . [Stupak's] office has released some of the abusive phone calls he has received. "You and your family are scum. You ought to fill your pockets with lead and jump in the Potomac," said another. Democrat Louise Slaughter says a caller to her office has vowed to send snipers to "kill the children of the members who voted yes". She reported the call to police who are now providing protection for her grandchildren. ================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #63 March 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck I'm talking about is your heroin placing targets on the locations referring to legislators. Then the rally call. Sure, you'll denounce the targets as purely political locations, but all it takes to stir up tea bagging trash is shit like that, that's what the fuck I'm talking about. What a waste of oxygen.... They're keystrokes, I didn't say a thing. I wasn't referring to what you were saying. Quit being coy, what were you referring to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #64 March 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote You really, really, really need to step away from the keyboard for a while. Please, don't tell him that...I need my daily headshake-face-in-hands dose. Where else does he have to go? Wiki? The Onion? The VA? You're like that comedian doing 10-yer old jokes, perhaps Bob Hope; it shows your empty bag of nothing. BTW, let's talk CNNBC, or do you onlhy work one way - lockstepped? We knew that. No one is lock-stepped with me. I'm simply here to help you maintain the sound foundation of your demeanor upon which you built, all by yourself...because, after all, not everyone appreciates the depth of those sources of information you use... 1) Right, about me not the issues 2) What sources, the BLS, BEA, NBER, etc? The ones you run from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #65 March 26, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote What the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck I'm talking about is your heroin placing targets on the locations referring to legislators. Then the rally call. Sure, you'll denounce the targets as purely political locations, but all it takes to stir up tea bagging trash is shit like that, that's what the fuck I'm talking about. What a waste of oxygen.... They're keystrokes, I didn't say a thing. I wasn't referring to what you were saying. LOL You owe me a cup of coffee and a keyboard!!! Easily amused and distracted http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/909/4215513318bw2.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #66 March 26, 2010 Quote Heroin? Horse? Smack? Steam on a stick? Is that what we're talking about? Really? Better smiley this one. Awe, spelling over substance, sounds like it's Ron. Nevermind the issue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #67 March 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck I'm talking about is your heroin placing targets on the locations referring to legislators. Then the rally call. Sure, you'll denounce the targets as purely political locations, but all it takes to stir up tea bagging trash is shit like that, that's what the fuck I'm talking about. What a waste of oxygen.... Hardly. Yesterday some tea baggers posted the address of one of our Congressman on their website(actually they got it wrong and posted his brother's address). Someone came by and cut gas lines at his house. Is this the new face of "conservatism"? Apparently it is. The GOP has become the party of "NO", mean spirit, bigotry and no class. Become? As in just yesterday? Try since Harding Coolidge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #68 March 26, 2010 Quote I cannot believe nothing he has ever said had any logic/reason to it. That speaks volumes. Quote I mean those I disagree with normally come up with some good points...... Lucky.... not so much Gee, my stock market prediction seems to be exactly right on the money. 6 months ago you called for a market crash, it's only gone stronger and you claim you are a pro stock trader. Maybe I, "cannot believe nothing you have ever said," or typed in this case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #69 March 26, 2010 Quote It was wrong when the parents of the current crop of bigots resorted to violence in response to the civil rights laws, and it is equally wrong now. What, did Byrd break out his Kleagle robes again? Quote With luck though, the South will secede. Classy.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
