rushmc 23 #76 March 26, 2010 Quote>The money has been spent on most here >Didnt help in some cases Agreed. You can never reach everyone. But it does work in most cases - and that's why I think it's one of the better investments you can make in the future. Money is not the only answer. Most especialy when said money is controled by goverment That however, is not the message"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #77 March 26, 2010 Quote>Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well If you think education is expensive - try ignorance. "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free" - PJ O'RourkeMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #78 March 26, 2010 Healthcare is not 'free', no one is saying that. And every other country in the world that has single payer pays less per capita than we do, so the 'cost' argument has been won time and time again. Your point is most CERTAINLY, invalid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #79 March 26, 2010 QuoteHealthcare is not 'free', no one is saying that. And every other country in the world that has single payer pays less per capita than we do, so the 'cost' argument has been won time and time again. Your point is most CERTAINLY, invalid. My point was a paraphrase of bill's statement - quit being so literal. To rebut you other points, you can't just look at per capita costs, but the quality of care as well - Americans get more tests and more high tech tests than many other countries. That doesn't come cheap.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #80 March 26, 2010 Quotequit being so literal Yes you are right - I mean we would not want to be 'literal' or stick to the facts when debating such an important topic...... How silly of me.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #81 March 26, 2010 QuoteQuotequit being so literal Yes you are right - I mean we would not want to be 'literal' or stick to the facts when debating such an important topic...... How silly of me.... When you're rebutting a quote from an author/editorialist as if it were a literal argument? Yup, pretty silly. Oh - you need to roll up that 'I can finally afford healthcare now that someone else is paying for it' banner - it's getting tangled in the hooves of your white charger.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #82 March 26, 2010 QuoteQuote>Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well If you think education is expensive - try ignorance. "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free" - PJ O'Rourke Strange how US healthcare costs per capita are so high compared with all those nations that have had a decent system in place for years. You'd think the Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland etc. would be broke.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #83 March 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote>Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well If you think education is expensive - try ignorance. "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free" - PJ O'Rourke Strange how US healthcare costs per capita are so high compared with all those nations that have had a decent system in place for years. You'd think the Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland etc. would be broke. What with their gargantuan military-industrial complexes, permanent national security states, mandatory foreign bogeymen and endless foreign wars, I'm shocked, shocked that they're not broke. Oh - and their vigorous cannabis prosecutions and proportions of prison populations incarcerated for drug offenses. I forgot to mention that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #84 March 26, 2010 Here's an interesting article analyzing why the SCOTUS is not likely to overturn the HC law on constitutional grounds: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/which-side-of-history/?hp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
