13 Attorneys General Sue Over Healthcare Overhaul

[rhaig 0]

thanks for omitting my quoted text "our children"

and implying I'm racist

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Rob

[wmw999 2,589]

I didn't infer anything like racism from what you posted, or what Bill posted about it. But yeah, I was just about to retort that focusing only on American casualties is a little insular.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[okalb 104]

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But please don't require me to pay for insurance for people who don't want to inconvenience themselves.

I have no children, I have no intentions of ever having children. Why should my taxes go to paying for other people's children to go to school. Please don't make me pay for an education for people who don't want to inconvenience themselves by not home schooling their own children.

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[billvon 3,120]

> Why should my taxes go to paying for other people's children to go to
> school.

Because when you are older, you will benefit from an educated, as opposed to an ignorant, populace and government.

[okalb 104]

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> Why should my taxes go to paying for other people's children to go to
> school.

Because when you are older, you will benefit from an educated, as opposed to an ignorant, populace and government.

Sorry, I should have used the sarcasm emoticon. I have no problem paying for other people's children to go to school just like I have no problem paying for universal healthcare. I left out the last line of my post which was: "That is the price we pay for living in a civilized society"

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[Amazon 7]

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> Why should my taxes go to paying for other people's children to go to
> school.

Because when you are older, you will benefit from an educated, as opposed to an ignorant, populace and government.

I am older and I am almost ready for my SOS# and oh how I wish that were true of Speakers Corner.
It's obvious if you listen to some of our stellar performers here that it is a failing of all of their liberal teachers, rather than the painfully obvious fact they are just goat fuck stupid to begin with.

[kallend 2,150]

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disagree, I will, I do and I will continue to support making YOU, me, everyone else, corporations and whoever else we can tax - PAY FOR and get health care for all Americans.

Medicare for all, paid for through the tax base.

Just like 'Police, firefighters, roads, schools' for everyone, paid for by the tax base.......

I think you and Carl Marx are on the same page

Like you and Harpo Marx?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[pmw515 0]

And I ponder this because of a ruling many years ago when a farmer was forced to pay a fine (by the fed gov) for raising 12 acres of wheat instead of 10. A fine the court upheld.....

Although the fine was upheld, the courts did not say he had to grow wheat. They said if he chose to grow it, it was subject to federal regulation under the commerce clause.

A fine, or tax (for a lack of health insurance) is not constitutional because we can't chose not to buy health ins. after this law is implemented. That is a lack of activity, the courts have never taxed inactivity under the commerce clause that I am aware of.

[rushmc 23]

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> Why should my taxes go to paying for other people's children to go to
> school.

Because when you are older, you will benefit from an educated, as opposed to an ignorant, populace and government.

Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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And I ponder this because of a ruling many years ago when a farmer was forced to pay a fine (by the fed gov) for raising 12 acres of wheat instead of 10. A fine the court upheld.....

Although the fine was upheld, the courts did not say he had to grow wheat. They said if he chose to grow it, it was subject to federal regulation under the commerce clause.

A fine, or tax (for a lack of health insurance) is not constitutional because we can't chose not to buy health ins. after this law is implemented. That is a lack of activity, the courts have never taxed inactivity under the commerce clause that I am aware of.

I am agreeing with you
My example is one of the first that got us where we are at
A farming was limited by the fed gov to grow only 10 acres of wheat to "raise the price". This farming grew 12 acres and was fined by the gov. The SC upheld the fine

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,150]

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> Why should my taxes go to paying for other people's children to go to
> school.

Because when you are older, you will benefit from an educated, as opposed to an ignorant, populace and government.

Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well

It's NOT all about YOU!

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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> Why should my taxes go to paying for other people's children to go to
> school.

Because when you are older, you will benefit from an educated, as opposed to an ignorant, populace and government.

Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well

Face it... in some peoples cases, spending twice or three times as much on thier education is just a waste of time and money. It is the fault of the liberal teachers right Marc?

[rushmc 23]

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> Why should my taxes go to paying for other people's children to go to
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Because when you are older, you will benefit from an educated, as opposed to an ignorant, populace and government.

Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well

It's NOT all about YOU!

I am glad you get that . It is a start

Now if we can get it is not about YOU we will really be getting someplace

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,150]

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> Why should my taxes go to paying for other people's children to go to
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Because when you are older, you will benefit from an educated, as opposed to an ignorant, populace and government.

Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well

It's NOT all about YOU!

I am glad you get that .

Apparently you didn't.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Andy9o8 2]

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"That is the price we pay for living in a civilized society"

You just recited the Democratic credo.

[okalb 104]

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"That is the price we pay for living in a civilized society"

You just recited the Democratic credo.

With everything going on, I think we are moving further and further away from civilization

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[billvon 3,120]

>Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well

If you think education is expensive - try ignorance.

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>Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well

If you think education is expensive - try ignorance.

[pmw515 0]

Indeed.

[Andy9o8 2]

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>Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well

If you think education is expensive - try ignorance.

Indeed:

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

- United Negro College Fund.

"...what a waste it is to lose one's mind or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."

- Dan Quayle

[tkhayes 348]

"can you say the letter 'K'?"

"Well sure, Karky, Kind, Kipper, Kipling...."

"Well why don't you say the letter K instead of the letter C?"

"You mean spell Bolour (Carl) with a K?"

you get the idea....

[tkhayes 348]

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My question then is "where does it stop?" Today it's insurance, tomorrow it's conscripting for the military. 20 years from now it could be collectives. Where is the line drawn, or is there a line? How much should the governement be responsible for?

I give up, Where does it stop? I believe that it does not stop at education, food or health care, how about that? I believe that it DOES stop at military fighting fucking wars in countries whose names most Americans cannot spell.

I have my line - you have yours. I don't give a fuck what libertarians believe; because a healthy, EDUCATED, well fed population is far better than an ignorant, hate-mopngering hungry, disease-ridden population. Do you disagree with that?

If you want the government out of your life and every man for himself, what you get today is something actually like HAITI.

Not for me thank you very much. I would rather see my neighbor, healthy and educated at the very least. I personally would like to see a better life for my fellow man, not defending myself against him because he has less than me.

[rushmc 23]

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>Givin the track record money spent in the past is not working very well

If you think education is expensive - try ignorance.

The money has been spent on most here
Didnt help in some cases

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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"can you say the letter 'K'?"

"Well sure, Karky, Kind, Kipper, Kipling...."

"Well why don't you say the letter K instead of the letter C?"

"You mean spell Bolour (Carl) with a K?"

you get the idea....

You will figure it out

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,120]

>The money has been spent on most here
>Didnt help in some cases

Agreed. You can never reach everyone. But it does work in most cases - and that's why I think it's one of the better investments you can make in the future.