Kids voice on air JFK ATC

[rushmc 23]

I heard the auido this morning
The kid was giving the most simple instructions (mostly cleared for take off instructions)

He did it professionaly and clearly

I think this is getting blown clear out of proportion

I know that a lot goes on in the tower but I gotta think that the proper time was picked

What do you all think...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587801,00.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Glitch 0]

You're a bit late... other thread here

Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born...

[rushmc 23]

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You're a bit late... other thread here

I rarely go to the Bonfire

Aint had my shots

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[BIGUN 1,521]

IMO, air or ground control at an airport like JFK demands the utmost of focus.
I think a child in that environment was inappropriate.
Even if the child was sitting in a chair observing and fell off the chair; any parent's natural instinct is to snap their head to check if their kid is OK.
In that single instant; focus is lost and the outcome could be less than favorable.
When you have other people's lives in your hand, there comes a responsibility to focus, concentrate and ensure those people have your undivided attention.
On a separate, but similar note; it's not just the big bad FAA condemning the occurrence, even his own union is denouncing the event.

Edit: Do I think he needs to lose his job over it.. no.
And, I like Max's idea of creating an ATC camp for kids.
There's some good computer apps out there along with a guided walk through of ATC, etc.

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

[Skyrad 0]

Kid did a great job, I'd have loved to be able to do that when I was a kid, that said...Hmmmm not the best of ideas really.

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Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Gawain 0]

In the Bonfire someone mentioned that this will get blown out of proportion and there will be Congressional hearings. If I were on that Congressional panel, and I had kids, I would bring my kid to ask a few questions during my allotted time.

While lives hang in the balance with air traffic control, I think this type of thing should be investigated from the standpoint of allowing this to happen with proper controls in place. Why? We need controllers last I heard. Small bits of practical time like this, before going to actual training can be hugely beneficial.

In a way, it's not all that different from a "ride along" that some police departments use. Granted the passenger doesn't do anything, but to argue it's a benign endeavor doesn't hold water.

So, should the fact that this kid followed strict instructions, conveyed the message, and for a severely limited time period be taken into consideration? Yes.

Should the controller have used better judgment before arbitrarily bringing his "kid to work day"? Yes.

What's also a factor here is that there had to have been several other controllers involved? Is it possible they thought through some redundancies so that one could take over immediately if needed? I think it is, and I hope that's what they did.

Given all that, under the current framework and rules, I think this group of controllers will get a lashing. I don't think they'll be dismissed.

I do hope however, that the FAA will seize this as an opportunity and use it as a mechanism to spur interest in this field of stressful work, especially for kids (most especially in high-school and young pilots).

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[jclalor 12]

Not nearly as bad as the Areoflot pilot that let his kid fly the Airbus A310 into a mountain a few years back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593

[billvon 3,173]

Nothing new here. There were NOTAMs back in the 1990's around JFK warning pilots of unauthorized transmissions. Usually it was easy to tell it was a false transmission.

[rushmc 23]

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Nothing new here. There were NOTAMs back in the 1990's around JFK warning pilots of unauthorized transmissions. Usually it was easy to tell it was a false transmission.

all replies are along the lines of what I thought

Hope this doesnt get too crazy for those involved
Even though there are rules to consider

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[livendive 8]

Meh, not a big deal to me. Some people seem to think that the only reason for living is to prolong life.

Blues,
Dave

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