dreamdancer 0 #1 February 27, 2010 interesting... QuoteThis makes sense to George Rohrbacher, a 61-year-old cattle rancher in Eastern Washington state who smokes weed every day. When his kids -- now 25 to 35 -- were growing up, marijuana was something he had to keep a secret. "Children under 18 don't need to be high on anything other than life," Rohrbacher says. His wife Ann espouses the same belief and quit marijuana just before 1976, when they had their first child. She later became a school superintendent. Although Rohrbacher didn't give up the herb except for small stretches of time (such as when he served in the Washington state senate), it wasn't something he shared with his kids. "I didn't want them to have to defend me in the DARE program at school," he says. "But when my youngest son was 19 and off to college, I went from completely undercover to the opposite of that." Today an advocate for marijuana legalization, Rohrbacher speaks to many baby boomers who, like his wife, gave up pot. "Due to career choices, family-raising choices, they've not imbibed in years and they tell me they can't wait until they get to that spot in their career or family lives when they can go back to smoking pot," he says. SAMHSA's study showed that past year marijuana use among those aged 55 to 59 tripled from 1.6 percent in 2002 to 5.1 percent in 2008. http://www.alternet.org/drugs/145808/why_growing_numbers_of_baby_boomers_and_the_elderly_are_smoking_potstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hwt 0 #2 February 27, 2010 A growing number of Boomers are just now coming out of the closet (so to speak) is all this really says , and not starting back up..The government should have never outlawed it in the first place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #3 February 27, 2010 Quote A growing number of Boomers are just now coming out of the closet (so to speak) is all this really says , and not starting back up..The government should have never outlawed it in the first place. +1Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #4 February 27, 2010 Quote The government should have never outlawed it in the first place. It grows out of the ground, and is used in that form. Can God be wrong? +1We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #5 February 27, 2010 Quote interesting... Quote This makes sense to George Rohrbacher, a 61-year-old cattle rancher in Eastern Washington state who smokes weed every day. When his kids -- now 25 to 35 -- were growing up, marijuana was something he had to keep a secret. "Children under 18 don't need to be high on anything other than life," Rohrbacher says. His wife Ann espouses the same belief and quit marijuana just before 1976, when they had their first child. She later became a school superintendent. Although Rohrbacher didn't give up the herb except for small stretches of time (such as when he served in the Washington state senate), it wasn't something he shared with his kids. "I didn't want them to have to defend me in the DARE program at school," he says. "But when my youngest son was 19 and off to college, I went from completely undercover to the opposite of that." Today an advocate for marijuana legalization, Rohrbacher speaks to many baby boomers who, like his wife, gave up pot. "Due to career choices, family-raising choices, they've not imbibed in years and they tell me they can't wait until they get to that spot in their career or family lives when they can go back to smoking pot," he says. SAMHSA's study showed that past year marijuana use among those aged 55 to 59 tripled from 1.6 percent in 2002 to 5.1 percent in 2008. http://www.alternet.org/drugs/145808/why_growing_numbers_of_baby_boomers_and_the_elderly_are_smoking_pot I recently started smoking again. After work I take one puff of the GOOD shit. Eat better, drink less and sleep well. Less pain. Just don't get hurt at work or be prepared to cheat the drug test. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 February 27, 2010 QuoteQuote The government should have never outlawed it in the first place. It grows out of the ground, and is used in that form. Can God be wrong? +1 Possibly the lamest reasoning ever. You know what else grows out of the ground? Hemlock, toadstools, oleander . . .quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #7 February 27, 2010 Quote Quote interesting... Quote This makes sense to George Rohrbacher, a 61-year-old cattle rancher in Eastern Washington state who smokes weed every day. When his kids -- now 25 to 35 -- were growing up, marijuana was something he had to keep a secret. "Children under 18 don't need to be high on anything other than life," Rohrbacher says. His wife Ann espouses the same belief and quit marijuana just before 1976, when they had their first child. She later became a school superintendent. Although Rohrbacher didn't give up the herb except for small stretches of time (such as when he served in the Washington state senate), it wasn't something he shared with his kids. "I didn't want them to have to defend me in the DARE program at school," he says. "But when my youngest son was 19 and off to college, I went from completely undercover to the opposite of that." Today an advocate for marijuana legalization, Rohrbacher speaks to many baby boomers who, like his wife, gave up pot. "Due to career choices, family-raising choices, they've not imbibed in years and they tell me they can't wait until they get to that spot in their career or family lives when they can go back to smoking pot," he says. SAMHSA's study showed that past year marijuana use among those aged 55 to 59 tripled from 1.6 percent in 2002 to 5.1 percent in 2008. http://www.alternet.org/drugs/145808/why_growing_numbers_of_baby_boomers_and_the_elderly_are_smoking_pot I recently started smoking again. After work I take one puff of the GOOD shit. Eat better, drink less and sleep well. Less pain. Just don't get hurt at work or be prepared to cheat the drug test. There are far more effective methods of pain management and hunger management, that do not possess the obvious health risks of smoking.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutem 0 #8 February 27, 2010 How bad do you think the health risk of one puff of the GOOD stuff a day is? James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #9 February 27, 2010 >How bad do you think the health risk of one puff of the GOOD stuff a day is? Much greater than the risk of someone who takes one puff of a cigarette a day. Still not very good for you. I'd be OK with legalizing pot, but the argument "legalize it cause it's healthy!" is absurd. It's a drug that can (and does) damage your lungs. You may be OK with that damage because you like being stoned, but silly rationalizations just muddy the issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hwt 0 #10 February 28, 2010 Billvon , What part of prohibition doesn't work do you fail to understand ? after alcohol was banned we saw crime soar , speak easies were formed and rum runners , boot leggers and the mob all made their money from selling " illegal booze" .Not to mention the enormous cost of trying to prevent these" criminals ". and further more people drank after the 18 amendment was passed.Now we make an enormous amount of money from the tax revenues . Just look at the money wasted trying to prevent all these criminals from growing, transporting and puffing on pot. i could go on but all you need to do is take a close look at history .In closing i say "prohibition doesn't work" and pot is safer then cigarettes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #11 February 28, 2010 >Billvon , What part of prohibition doesn't work do you fail to understand ? Re-read my post and perhaps you will answer your own question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #12 February 28, 2010 Quote Quote Quote interesting... Quote This makes sense to George Rohrbacher, a 61-year-old cattle rancher in Eastern Washington state who smokes weed every day. When his kids -- now 25 to 35 -- were growing up, marijuana was something he had to keep a secret. "Children under 18 don't need to be high on anything other than life," Rohrbacher says. His wife Ann espouses the same belief and quit marijuana just before 1976, when they had their first child. She later became a school superintendent. Although Rohrbacher didn't give up the herb except for small stretches of time (such as when he served in the Washington state senate), it wasn't something he shared with his kids. "I didn't want them to have to defend me in the DARE program at school," he says. "But when my youngest son was 19 and off to college, I went from completely undercover to the opposite of that." Today an advocate for marijuana legalization, Rohrbacher speaks to many baby boomers who, like his wife, gave up pot. "Due to career choices, family-raising choices, they've not imbibed in years and they tell me they can't wait until they get to that spot in their career or family lives when they can go back to smoking pot," he says. SAMHSA's study showed that past year marijuana use among those aged 55 to 59 tripled from 1.6 percent in 2002 to 5.1 percent in 2008. http://www.alternet.org/drugs/145808/why_growing_numbers_of_baby_boomers_and_the_elderly_are_smoking_pot I recently started smoking again. After work I take one puff of the GOOD shit. Eat better, drink less and sleep well. Less pain. Just don't get hurt at work or be prepared to cheat the drug test. There are far more effective methods of pain management and hunger management, that do not possess the obvious health risks of smoking. Like what? Oxycontin, hydrocodone, ibu, asp? Gimme a fuckin break. I have so much steel and titanium in my body it ain't funny. Oh I know. Maybe meditation of something. Get real. Edit to add: I'm 52 fuckin yrs. old and have been smoking cigs since 10 and done about everything to do in this word (cept maybe Everest or flying into space) , and every drug known to man (speedball was the best or maybe the GOOD LSD. Toss up. You think I'm worried about what a hit of pot daily is going to do to me? LOL Die tomorrow. Could care less.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hwt 0 #13 February 28, 2010 Quote >Billvon , What part of prohibition doesn't work do you fail to understand ? Re-read my post and perhaps you will answer your own question. I re-read your post and retract.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #14 February 28, 2010 QuoteThere are far more effective methods of pain management and hunger management, that do not possess the obvious health risks of smoking. Like what? With opiates you run the risk of dependency and overdose. When was the last time a stoner overdosed and ended up in the ICU. And how hard is it to treat an opiate versus an MJ dependency. Some of the meds they use to treat nausea and hunger mgmt are also used to treat schizophrenia and have you read the side effects to those meds. I know marijuana has a negative stigma, but put that aside and try to look at it's medicinal value. Look at the pro's and con's of using it. If it works better and has minor side effects, then use it. If MJ could be used instead of Viagra and Cealis I doubt this thread would even exist, MJ would be labeled the new miracle drug and it would be legal in most if not all of the states. You said that there are far better ways of dealing with pain and hunger management. What are your suggestions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #15 March 1, 2010 Smoking Pot can increase the risks of developing psychosis. http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20100228/hl_hsn/marijuanausecanuppsychosisrisk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #16 March 1, 2010 QuoteSmoking Pot can increase the risks of developing psychosis. http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20100228/hl_hsn/marijuanausecanuppsychosisrisk Same could be said for about 80% of the humans on the planet. Being exposed to them is risky business." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #17 March 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteThere are far more effective methods of pain management and hunger management, that do not possess the obvious health risks of smoking. Like what? With opiates you run the risk of dependency and overdose. When was the last time a stoner overdosed and ended up in the ICU. And how hard is it to treat an opiate versus an MJ dependency. Some of the meds they use to treat nausea and hunger mgmt are also used to treat schizophrenia and have you read the side effects to those meds. I know marijuana has a negative stigma, but put that aside and try to look at it's medicinal value. Look at the pro's and con's of using it. If it works better and has minor side effects, then use it. If MJ could be used instead of Viagra and Cealis I doubt this thread would even exist, MJ would be labeled the new miracle drug and it would be legal in most if not all of the states. You said that there are far better ways of dealing with pain and hunger management. What are your suggestions. I am not a doctor and prescribe nothing, as someone who endured significant amounts of pain fairly recently however, my regimen ranged from dilaudid through controlled administration, to methadone (twice per day). Neurontin and lyrica for associated nerve issues (the latter developed for diabetics on the verge of limb-loss). By the time my overall treatment was over, no more pain meds were required. Most serious side-effect of this pain management, constipation. Easily, and naturally managed. The masses of doctors, lingering, often intense pain, wide imaginative ideas, never once was marijuana or THC mentioned (of course, it was the military). That aside, anyone that insists that marijuana is their only option for pain management is selling themselves short.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #18 March 1, 2010 Quote>How bad do you think the health risk of one puff of the GOOD stuff a day is? Much greater than the risk of someone who takes one puff of a cigarette a day. Still not very good for you. Do you have any evidence? Last time I checked the research was inconclusive regarding the health risks of smoking marijuana. Not to mention there are ways to reduce the possible health risks such as vaporizing, ingesting, etc..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #19 March 1, 2010 QuoteQuote>How bad do you think the health risk of one puff of the GOOD stuff a day is? Much greater than the risk of someone who takes one puff of a cigarette a day. Still not very good for you. Do you have any evidence? Last time I checked the research was inconclusive regarding the health risks of smoking marijuana. Not to mention there are ways to reduce the possible health risks such as vaporizing, ingesting, etc... There is no dispute that inhaling smoke has long term detrimental affects to one's health.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #20 March 1, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote>How bad do you think the health risk of one puff of the GOOD stuff a day is? Much greater than the risk of someone who takes one puff of a cigarette a day. Still not very good for you. Do you have any evidence? Last time I checked the research was inconclusive regarding the health risks of smoking marijuana. Not to mention there are ways to reduce the possible health risks such as vaporizing, ingesting, etc... There is no dispute that inhaling smoke has long term detrimental affects to one's health. First, not all smoke is the same. Second, while there may be no dispute, there is also no definitive evidence regarding the long term affects of marijuana."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #21 March 1, 2010 Quote Quote >Billvon , What part of prohibition doesn't work do you fail to understand ? Re-read my post and perhaps you will answer your own question. I re-read your post and retract.. See what happens when you read DZ.com while high?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #22 March 3, 2010 QuoteTomorrow, Harvard economist Jeffrey Miron will testify before the state's Marijuana Prohibition Study Commission and explain how changing the state's current marijuana policies could save tens of millions of dollars annually, and even possibly generate additional tax revenue. According to Miron's estimates, reducing the penalty for the possession of small amounts of marijuana to a civil fine would save Rhode Island roughly $11.1 million per year in reduced expenditures on police. Miron also estimates that taxing and regulating marijuana would save the state roughly $40.5 million per year in reduced expenditures on police, prosecutors, judges and prisons. Taxing and regulating marijuana could also generate roughly $7.6 million per year in new tax revenue, according to Miron. "Professor Miron's estimates illustrate just one of the many reasons why Rhode Island lawmakers should consider changing the state's disastrous prohibition on the nation's largest cash crop," said Robert Capecchi, a legislative analyst with the Marijuana Policy Project. "As lawmakers examine the economically unsound and wasteful policies that unnecessarily arrest, prosecute and incarcerate thousands of individuals simply for using a substance that is safer than alcohol, I hope they pay particular attention to Professor Miron's findings, especially in these tough economic times." http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2010/03/03stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #23 March 3, 2010 >disastrous prohibition on the nation's largest cash crop . . . Corn grown in the US each year: 700 billion pounds Marijuana grown in the US each year: 22 million pounds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #24 March 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>How bad do you think the health risk of one puff of the GOOD stuff a day is? Much greater than the risk of someone who takes one puff of a cigarette a day. Still not very good for you. Do you have any evidence? Last time I checked the research was inconclusive regarding the health risks of smoking marijuana. Not to mention there are ways to reduce the possible health risks such as vaporizing, ingesting, etc... There is no dispute that inhaling smoke has long term detrimental affects to one's health. First, not all smoke is the same. Second, while there may be no dispute, there is also no definitive evidence regarding the long term affects of marijuana. Um, yes there is. In fact, anyone that has been around doesn't need a scientific body to point out short-term or long-term effects of smoking period...let alone smoking marijuana. If it's burning, there's carbon monoxide...that's for starters. People that take a tok don't exhale like a cigarette, they hold it in as long as they can. There are over 400 chemical compounds in pot, one of them gets you high. They have already been able to extract THC for ingestion without smoking. You don't need to smoke it to get these "medicinal" benefits.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #25 March 3, 2010 Quote>disastrous prohibition on the nation's largest cash crop . . . Corn grown in the US each year: 700 billion pounds Marijuana grown in the US each year: 22 million pounds wrong... QuoteWhat is America’s largest cash crop? Well, some might say: Wheat or corn or marijuana or something like that. However, the largest cash crop in America is Black-Americans. The growing of Black-Americans for profit is one of the great business success stories in world history. All cash crops are designed to produce a profit by providing a consumer with a product that he will pay the grower to produce. In America, White-American-farmers have raised Black-American-growing into an art form. A well-grown Black-American is a sure criminal. Black-American-growing is very easy as crops go. All that is required to raise Black-Americans is some land that can be turned into a rat, roach, and disease infested slum (AKA inner city.) To help insure that Black-Americans grow quickly into a criminal crop the farmers of Black-Americans created a special type of Fertilizer called WELFARE, which gives enough nutrients and other growth aids to produce record criminal crops each year. However, the real secret to the success of Black-American-growing is a special ingredient that all Black-American-growers use: DRUGS. Drugs, especially cocaine, heroin, crack-cocaine, and other such additives are the key to insuring that the crop will grow to its full criminal potential. http://www.hoboes.com/FireBlade/Politics/cashcrop/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites