Canadian Women's Hockey Celebration

[Lucky... 0]

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Once again you show how big a difference there is between what you perceive as reality and what actually is reality.

The reality is that the broke the essence and spirit of sportsmanship, as I've previously stated. I realize you like selective reading, but I did write somethign to that effect,

The relity is that the team and the Canadian Hockey Authority of some sort apologized and adfmitted it was wrong, so it is you who isn't in-line with reality.

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Show us where there is a hard rule that the ladies broke.

It's probably a general ethics rule. They don't cidify every little behavior, they use general sportsmanship guidelines which all involved agree they violated, now if we can just get the public to learn how to read.

Oh and the other hard rule would be the drinking age thingy on an Olympic venue esp, there's you hard rule. Have a nice day.

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There isn't. The only one that the IOC could argue as being violated would be one that requires athletes to retstrain from partaking in any actions that may be construed as detrimental to the image of the Olympics.

Yea, you kinda just answered your own question; thank you. They didn't violate the rules, just the ruke that says you can't aprty like a rickstar, but other than that, not one rule was violated.

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Fine. So if they raise a fuss about a women's hockey team celebrating their gold medal in an otherwise empty arena, than they have to take issue with the city/IOC passing out 100,000 free condoms.

You mean, mnostly empty arena; reading is fundamental - revision is Republican divine.

So now some condom distribution comes into play; WTF are you talking about???? Back to the subject, the IOC, the team, the Canadian Hockey Authority have all agreed that there was a violation, now you have just also agreed that there was a violation, so it appears we are all on the same oage here.

READ THIS CAREFULLY: YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE RULES, NOT WHETHER THE RULES WERE BROKEN OR NOT, YOU AGREE THEY WERE, YOU JUST THINK IT'S STUPID TO HAVE RULES LIKE THAT. IF THIS WERE A JURY YOU WOULD VOTE TO ACQUIT, THUS JURY NULLIFICATION WOULD BE ENACTED. YOUR ISSUE IS WITH THE LEGISLATION, AND YOU'RE ACTING IT THRU THE ENFORCEMENT. BECOME A COP, THEY DO THIS ALL THE TIME.

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That's not even getting into the rest of the nightlife that continues for the entire run of the games.

And if a hockey player got drunk and was giving head in a bar's bathroom to celebrate, she would be chastized much harder.

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Get over it , dude. As always your jealousy of talented athletes (or anybody with any kind of talent) shines through loud and clear.

Not at all, and if this were pro sports I would be all for it; I love teh drama in pro sports. This is a world stage, diff animal.

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Oh, one more thing....
Who the hell are YOU to talk about ethics????

How am I unethical? Try to be constructive and on track.

[Lucky... 0]

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Huh? It took 22 years for them to come back this time, this episode will be forgotten by next week....

As for the Olympic Committee owning the ice, I paid for the damm thing, the IOC can rent it, but they don't own it.

I'd like to see the specific rule where it says they can't go on the ice for a beer.

It's in the general ethics and behavior rules, but it is also in the federal laws about underage drinking.

As for forgotten, agreed. It isn't a huge issue, they apologized and admitted; done deal.

Canada can own teh ice all they want, they gave authority to the Olympic committe, like it or not. Wanna kick em out, go for it, but all that revenue you guys deservedly got is as a result of begging the olympic committee to choose your venue; learn a little about how it works.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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As for the Olympic Committee owning the ice, I paid for the damm thing, the IOC can rent it, but they don't own it.

Since when did you own Orca Bay Sports and Entertainment? That building was built with 100% private money, on time and on budget.

Lucky:

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Because the jurisdiction of the ice belongs to the olympic committee until the games are over, I doubt you can grasp tthat concept, but this won't help the future chances for Canada getting the olympics back soon.

You must be kidding. If you think The IOC takes pissant shit like this into account over billion dollar + decisions you really don't understand.

[Lucky... 0]

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Man, you got too much time on your hands. You're totally missing the point of the article. The IOC doesn't care. The Canadian Olympic Committee doesn't care. The Canadian Hockey Federation doesn't care. Even the US Olympic Committee said

"My only comment would be, I wish it was the Americans who had been in a position to do that," U.S. Olympic Committee CEO Scott Blackmun told the Associated Press.

The girls apologized to be polite. I probably would have, too. But not until I'd finished my beer.

It's not like the US mens team trashing the hotel in Nagano.
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I agree, we agree, you just don't like how it played out. It's over, all parties agreed it's a done issue. You are teh one with a problem, you don;t like that they had to apologize, I think it played out perfectly. Again, YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM HERE.

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No, you don't understand - someone had the sheer *gall* to disagree with something that the Expert of Every Subject had said.

The only people in disagreement here are the ones who hated the apology had to be given. I agree with the way it played out after the idiots did their deed. I ultimatley don't care in the least, but it is an intersteing issue, more intersting as the dissenters whine.

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As for the Olympic Committee owning the ice, I paid for the damm thing, the IOC can rent it, but they don't own it.

Since when did you own Orca Bay Sports and Entertainment? That building was built with 100% private money, on time and on budget.

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Because the jurisdiction of the ice belongs to the olympic committee until the games are over, I doubt you can grasp tthat concept, but this won't help the future chances for Canada getting the olympics back soon.

You must be kidding. If you think The IOC takes pissant shit like this into account over billion dollar + decisions you really don't understand.

Well, they could use it as fodder if they for some other reason choose another venue. Do I think this will bemonumental? No, but I'm sure the Canadian Gov doesn't appreciate it. Getting teh Olympics is huge and Canada is an awesome venue, regardless of terroitory, they will get the olympics again within 4 or 5 more winter Olympics I'm sure.

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The reality is that the broke the essence and spirit of sportsmanship, as I've previously stated.

That's what I have been trying to get you to address....
how did they violate any code of sportsmanship? They were alone! They didn't throw their victory in the face of their opponent, they had the class to celebrate in private.
Maybe if you would wait until you are sober before posting here you would understand what is being said and your spelling would not be so awful and yu posts would make some kind of sense.
Maybe you need to do as Amazon suggested. Give it a try.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
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[Belgian_Draft 0]

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Again, YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM HERE

Holy shit that's funny!
hat has to hit an all time high on the irony score.
The only one here with a problem is the guy who got his panties all in a bunch because of his jealousy of a group of talented athletes who won a team gold medal and held a private little celebration on the ice well after everyone else but a couple photogs had left.
Get the fuck over yourself, lucky. Get the fuck over yourself.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[Lucky... 0]

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Again, YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM HERE

Holy shit that's funny!
hat has to hit an all time high on the irony score.
The only one here with a problem is the guy who got his panties all in a bunch because of his jealousy of a group of talented athletes who won a team gold medal and held a private little celebration on the ice well after everyone else but a couple photogs had left.
Get the fuck over yourself, lucky. Get the fuck over yourself.

Oh, resorting to anginess, get that checked out. I think what happened after the idiots acted as such was perfect, you are teh one pissed that they had to apologize; YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE ISSUES.

[Belgian_Draft 0]

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[Lucky... 0]

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The reality is that the broke the essence and spirit of sportsmanship, as I've previously stated.

That's what I have been trying to get you to address....
how did they violate any code of sportsmanship? They were alone! They didn't throw their victory in the face of their opponent, they had the class to celebrate in private.
Maybe if you would wait until you are sober before posting here you would understand what is being said and your spelling would not be so awful and yu posts would make some kind of sense.
Maybe you need to do as Amazon suggested. Give it a try.

Being wrong does invoke anger, as we see by you . Time to vist you know who.

http://multimedia.olympic.org/pdf/en_report_122.pdf

Along with all the numerous rules along the way in this 105-page read, page 21 of 105 (7)(1) rings the highest so far: The Olympic Games are the exclusive property of the IOC which owns all rights and data
relating thereto, in particular, and without limitation, all rights relating to their organisation,
exploitation, broadcasting, recording, representation, reproduction, access and dissemination
in any form and by any means or mechanism whatsoever, whether now existing
or developed in the future. The IOC shall determine the conditions of access to and the
conditions of any use of data relating to the Olympic Games and to the competitions and
sports performances of the Olympic Games.

The IOC owns heh mother fucker, ENTIRELY.

Page 50 of 105 talks of ethics and how they are the first and final "decider."

Shall we talk about federal, provicial, territorial laws about underage drinking that took place on Olympics venue?

[Lucky... 0]

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Cat got your tongue?

Oh, resorting to angriness, get that checked out. I think what happened after the idiots acted as such was perfect, you are the one pissed that they had to apologize; YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE ISSUES.

[champu 1]

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Shall we talk about federal, provicial, territorial laws about underage drinking that took place on Olympics venue?

Okay...

Federal huh? Are you suggesting they imported intoxicating liquors for a commercial purpose without involving the provincial board?

And BC is a province, so I'm not sure how territorial laws were violated.

[Lucky... 0]

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Shall we talk about federal, provicial, territorial laws about underage drinking that took place on Olympics venue?

Okay...

Federal huh? Are you suggesting they imported intoxicating liquors for a commercial purpose without involving the provincial board?

And BC is a province, so I'm not sure how territorial laws were violated.

Consumption laws were violated. Consumption laws are: Territorial, federal or provincial.

[champu 1]

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Shall we talk about federal, provicial, territorial laws about underage drinking that took place on Olympics venue?

Okay...

Federal huh? Are you suggesting they imported intoxicating liquors for a commercial purpose without involving the provincial board?

And BC is a province, so I'm not sure how territorial laws were violated.

Consumption laws were violated. Consumption laws are: Territorial, federal or provincial.

Sorry, up thread you also said...

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It's in the general ethics and behavior rules, but it is also in the federal laws about underage drinking.

I was trying to figure out what federal drinking laws they broke since you've brought them up twice now. Are you sure it stops there? Are there any Intergalactic Decrees that need enforcing? Look, I get your point, you think the olympics are a different animal and athletes that participate in them should all understand that. I agree. I don't want the olympics to be just like every other sports league. That said, I don't think this was a big deal considering they were in an otherwise empty arena, and they issued an apology.

Now quit post-vomiting all over this thread.

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So exactley where in the rule you quoted does it say the IOC owns the facility? Where does it say they have complete control over the athletes?
No law enforcement agency expressed any concerns about the celebration.

BTW, who is angry? I, as well as others reading your rants, are getting a good laugh out of how you think some great evil was done and that somehow it is up to you to decide who is right and who is wrong. get over yourself already.
The IOC got anal, the team gave an obviously insincere apology to apease the IOC, and everybody is happy. Except for you since you seem to feel they should be flogged before being drawn and quartered.
You STILL have not shown where they did anything that could be construed as unsportsmanlike.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[Belgian_Draft 0]

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Shall we talk about federal, provicial, territorial laws about underage drinking that took place on Olympics venue?

Okay...

Federal huh? Are you suggesting they imported intoxicating liquors for a commercial purpose without involving the provincial board?

And BC is a province, so I'm not sure how territorial laws were violated.

Consumption laws were violated. Consumption laws are: Territorial, federal or provincial.

If they were then the authorities have chosen not to make an issue of it.
Sorry that you are disappointed.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

[kelpdiver 2]

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Show us where there is a hard rule that the ladies broke.

It's probably a general ethics rule.

Look at that back pedalling! Judges?

Judge1: poorly executed - 3.4
Judge2: but high degree of difficulty - 7.1
Judge3 (from Zimbabwe): perfect 10!

Sheesh - for all that talk about how they broke the rules, you can't even identify it? Is that not Lucky in a nutshell?

[masterrig 1]

Put yourself in their position... You're 18 - 19-yrs. old, you and your teamates just won a gold medal... at the OLYMPICS! Noone is around, no public, just a few camera folks. Someone hauls-out a case of cold beer and they start celebrating! What would you do at that age? Be honest!!!


Chuck

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P What would you do at that age? Be honest!!!

Post to a BBS forum?

[billvon 3,119]

> What would you do at that age? Be honest!

I'd start drinking and taking pictures. If someone said "let's go out on the ice!" I'd say "sure" and go do it. And if the organizer came down and said "hey, take it outside" I'd say "OK" and do that.

[billvon 3,119]

> And there are practical reasons for not wanting loose alcoholic beverages
>on board, which in the hands of drunks are more likely to be spilled.

I am sure you have been on a great many airplanes where alcoholic beverage were allowed, and they're spilled all the time. The plane doesn't crash as a result; generally they don't even take it out of service.

Which has nothing to do with this. It's their airplane (or more accurately Thailand's airplane) and doing what they ask you to do while on board is just common courtesy. If they asked us to not wear T-shirts with profanity on them out of respect for the king we would have (mostly) done that too.

>but it's really this assertion that these damn women should be
>controlling themselves.

How did this become some sort of sexist thing? I mean, hasn't everyone here been on teams before? I have. And occasionally when we win we celebrate, and occasionally when that happens someone tells us to tone it down. It doesn't mean that they hate those damn americans, or those damn 4-way jumpers, or those damn men.

[masterrig 1]

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P What would you do at that age? Be honest!!!

Post to a BBS forum?

Chuck

[masterrig 1]

Fair enough. Noone asks you to 'take it outside'. Nothing is mentioned of it till the 8x10 glossies with the circles and arrows and descriptions on the back come out!? Do you feel you did anything wrong?


Chuck

[Amazon 7]

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Fair enough. Noone asks you to 'take it outside'. Nothing is mentioned of it till the 8x10 glossies with the circles and arrows and descriptions on the back come out!? Do you feel you did anything wrong?


Chuck

I am thinking "some people"need to go outside more.....and be with some 3 dimensional people


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