Homeopathy has no evidence say UK MP's

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A parliamentary committee confirmed what smart people have been saying for a long time. There is no compelling evidence that homeopathy work beyond the placebo effect.
Most people think homeopathy is a herbal medcine, but its also diluted to astronomical levels. Normally one part active ingredient to 1*10 to the power 60 parts water. yet millions of people spend billions of pounds on this utter nonsese.
Read here for more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/feb/22/stop-funding-homeopathy-mps-urge

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Isn't amazing to what lengths people will go just to feel good?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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Isn't amazing to what lengths people will go just to feel good?

Yep. Absolutely amazing when you get down to the science of it all.

As an aside, did you know that scientists are studying the effect religion has on endorphins? It's fascinating!

Article here: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925361.100-belief-special-how-evolution-found-god.html?page=1

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Isn't amazing to what lengths people will go just to feel good?

I don't know... It seems to be a pretty normal tendency to want to feel good, as opposed to feeling bad.

And the placebo effect can be pretty powerful. Sometimes simply believing that something will make you feel better, will actually make you feel better.

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did you know that scientists are studying the effect religion has on endorphins?

I'd think it's much the same as the effect a child's anticipation of Santa Claus on Christmas Eve has on the child's endorphins.

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Isn't amazing to what lengths people will go just to feel good?

Yep. Absolutely amazing when you get down to the science of it all.

As an aside, did you know that scientists are studying the effect religion has on endorphins? It's fascinating!

Article here: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925361.100-belief-special-how-evolution-found-god.html?page=1

There are genes that appear to have a strong corelation to a person being predisposed to being more or less spiritual.

I call them the oogie-boogie genes; but that of course only reflects the probability that they are not turned on for me, . . . yet. But I could be one near-death or other epiphinous event away from them gaining sway.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Isn't amazing to what lengths people will go just to feel good?

I don't know... It seems to be a pretty normal tendency to want to feel good, as opposed to feeling bad.

And the placebo effect can be pretty powerful. Sometimes simply believing that something will make you feel better, will actually make you feel better.

If a placebo works, cool. But very uncool for them to charge so much for it. Aside from the fact that homeopathy is a lie - but then again I suppose it has to be a lie or it would not be a successful placebo.

What a conundrum.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Britain's National Health Service spent £4 million funding 4 homeopathic hospitals last year.
Suggestion: this year, give each hospital £10, and tell them it will work better 'cause it's diluted.

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The other problem with Placebos is that whilst they may alleviate pain via enorphin release:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=brains-own-pain-relievers

they are unlikely to cure serious diseases. So the danger is that people will take them for a headache , see they are effective and then take them again for a brain tumour and die. lesson: pure placebos are dangerous.

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Yep. Absolutely amazing when you get down to the science of it all.

As an aside, did you know that scientists are studying the effect religion has on endorphins? It's fascinating!

Article here: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925361.100-belief-special-how-evolution-found-god.html?page=1

Good article, thanks for posting.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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did you know that scientists are studying the effect religion has on endorphins?

I'd think it's much the same as the effect a child's anticipation of Santa Claus on Christmas Eve has on the child's endorphins.

Probably better to give them a mood altering chemical once per year that has been legally developed under scientific principles based on empirical research. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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they are unlikely to cure serious diseases. So the danger is that people will take them for a headache , see they are effective and then take them again for a brain tumour and die. lesson: pure placebos are dangerous.

True.

But then we have the pharmaceutical companies that are helping a lot more people than homeopathy does, while also killing a lot more people than homeopathy does. Real active ingredients may be more likely to help a problem, but they are inherently more dangerous too. (So maybe in some cases, the homeopathic remedies are preventing people from unnecessarily taking the more dangerous active stuff?)

It's good that efficacy studies are published and available to those who want to find out more about the products they are purchasing and using. And homeopathy seems like quackery to me, but it's nowhere near the top of my list of things to be concerned about.

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or a straw man perhpas?

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Pure quackery, but it has a place as 'complementary' therapy. After all GPs simply don't have time to sit and ask one hundread and one daft questions that lead to lonley patient getting it all off their chest.

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did you know that scientists are studying the effect religion has on endorphins?

I'd think it's much the same as the effect a child's anticipation of Santa Claus on Christmas Eve has on the child's endorphins.

Probably better to give them a mood altering chemical once per year that has been legally developed under scientific principles based on empirical research. Yeah, that's the ticket.

An entertaining non-answer answer. Thanks for playing.

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An entertaining non-answer answer. Thanks for playing.

You're welcome. I hope it gave you a chuckle.

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Britain's National Health Service spent £4 million funding 4 homeopathic hospitals last year.
Suggestion: this year, give each hospital £10, and tell them it will work better 'cause it's diluted.

I like that. Cut their spending to 1 part per 10 million, and assure them their checkbook still "remembers" having the money.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Probably better to give them a mood altering chemical once per year that has been legally developed under scientific principles based on empirical research. Yeah, that's the ticket.

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Probably better to give them a mood altering chemical once per year that has been legally developed under scientific principles based on empirical research. Yeah, that's the ticket.

You belittle scientific principles, yet you trust your life flying in airplanes, jumping parachutes, undergoing surgical procedures, taking medications and pretty much living you'r daily life from the benefits of science and empirical research. Yet touch your sacred cow of religion and all of a sudden, science is now junk.


I think I'll just let you spit out the hook.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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If homeopathy were true, then drinking Busch Lite beer would make you more sober.

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