PhreeZone 20 #1 February 22, 2010 Did anyone else catch any of the Cyber Shockwave discussion on CNN recently? http://www.bipartisanpolicy.org/events/cyber2010 If not I highly recommend catching it since the panel is current and former bipartisan administration officials and some of their views are enlightening. There were a few comments made by several parties that I was looking for other opinions on, namely the Attorney Generals comments around possibly implementing a national policy that software applications be identified as "Secure" before they are allowed to go on sale as a method to prevent hackers from gaining access to cell and computer networks. This was the first time I've actually heard any administration official state a concept like that as a prevention to an attack instead of a reaction. Another set of comments was around the role of the federal government in cyber attacks and how much control it needs to have over the private sector to protect the infrastructure in the US. Thoughts around mobilizing the National Guard with support from the active military to protect power plants and distribution areas was one tangent I was looking for others thoughts on. Should the federal government be tasked with protecting private industry in this manor? Should private industry be held with the bill after this occurs? The panel was floating the idea that some of these items might be better if they were under federal control to begin with so there would be greater controls in place to allow military take over in times of crisis to begin with. What are others thoughts on this?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 February 22, 2010 QuoteDid anyone else catch any of the Cyber Shockwave discussion on CNN recently? http://www.bipartisanpolicy.org/events/cyber2010 If not I highly recommend catching it since the panel is current and former bipartisan administration officials and some of their views are enlightening. There were a few comments made by several parties that I was looking for other opinions on, namely the Attorney Generals comments around possibly implementing a national policy that software applications be identified as "Secure" before they are allowed to go on sale as a method to prevent hackers from gaining access to cell and computer networks. This was the first time I've actually heard any administration official state a concept like that as a prevention to an attack instead of a reaction. Another set of comments was around the role of the federal government in cyber attacks and how much control it needs to have over the private sector to protect the infrastructure in the US. Thoughts around mobilizing the National Guard with support from the active military to protect power plants and distribution areas was one tangent I was looking for others thoughts on. Should the federal government be tasked with protecting private industry in this manor? Should private industry be held with the bill after this occurs? The panel was floating the idea that some of these items might be better if they were under federal control to begin with so there would be greater controls in place to allow military take over in times of crisis to begin with. What are others thoughts on this? Sounds to me like implementing such a solution (i.e. "Secure" before market release), will grind development to a snail's pace, and the price will go up by a magnitude of 100.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 February 22, 2010 while we're at it, need to certify users as "secure" before they're allowed to buy software or computers. And since smartphones are both, that means no iPhones without the cert card. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 February 22, 2010 The War Game situation that they were working off of was that some developer had created a "March Madness" application and sold it for cell phone installs but there was a backdoor in it that let the attacker block 60 million cell phones from using their network. The attack then was said to spread to POTS phones and was resulting in a complete denial of service for data and voice transmissions to the majority of the county including Air Traffic Control, Power generation and medical facilities. Result was black outs, etc for most of the county and how the departments would deal with it. Most tech's know that crossing from a cell to a physical attack is just about impossible to conduct due to the differences in the core design of each but they over looked it for this war game. It was a really insightful look as to some of the current and former NSA, AG, DHS, CIA, and DOD's view into how they think of the private industry and their views on their roles over it. DHS suggested that they would be willing to cede control of all their assets to the DOD if we were under cyber attack to allow us to be more defensive and counter the threats. Also discussed that caught my ear was a need for options for the president to take more control over certain private industry matters in the time of a national crisis, they specifically mentioned how the financial sector had additional restrictions temporarily induced to prevent wild speculation a few years back. I've been in favor of taking an aptitude test to get issued internet access for a long time. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #5 February 23, 2010 Quote What are others thoughts on this? Given that the government can't even figure out how to encrypt UAV video feeds, I don't think they have any business trying to control private-sector security. I see them more as a threat to private sector security than a solution to it. The problem with the military taking over in a "time of crisis" is that the politicians get to define "time of crisis" - including crises that they themselves have invented. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #6 February 23, 2010 Great! MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL! THAT WILL FIX [I]EVERYTHING[/I]! MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL!!!!! assholes. And we Americans are just stupid enough to buy into it.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #7 February 23, 2010 QuoteAnd we Americans are just stupid enough to buy into it. It's better than that! First, we vilify other countries for doing it (China and Internet content), then we do the EXACT SAME THING, under different pretenses. Well, it's OK for us to do it, because 9/11, God said it was OK, Apple Pie, blah, blah blah. Oh yeah, and the Russians were devils for occupying Afghanistan for 10 years - but it's OK for us to do it. And those stupid Europeans with their outrageous taxes, our citizens wouldn't stand for crazy taxes. People die in Canada waiting for healthcare - we would never do that shit! And Americans still buy the rhetoric.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
