rhaig 0 #26 February 21, 2010 did i say youj attacked him? and you're right. what else should i have expected from you. as i said im pm, if your gramdma had done some things you werent proud of, would you like to be reminded of the good or bad so soon after her death? dont answer. you didnt im pm. just as you never answer direct in-thread questions.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #27 February 21, 2010 Quotedid i say youj attacked him? and you're right. what else should i have expected from you. as i said im pm, if your gramdma had done some things you werent proud of, would you like to be reminded of the good or bad so soon after her death? dont answer. you didnt im pm. just as you never answer direct in-thread questions. Saying he was a war hero that was connected to a corrupt admin is an attack? OK. As for the gramma reference, I didn't tell you the good and bad of her life and that I called it before, during and after her death? Yes I did. The mods, who can read PM's surely know you lied there. I did answer in PM's; you're not only lying but grandstanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #28 February 21, 2010 I'm done. you win. happy now?-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #29 February 21, 2010 Quote I'm done. you win. happy now? Only if I get the last word Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #31 February 21, 2010 Quote Quote Don't feed the tr...........oops I almost said it. Then the luckster would scream PA. Still, don't feed em' RIP to a great man, Alexander Haig, let's make the threat about him, not a about a certain tr........ You're right. RIP to General Haig: Distinguished Flying Cross Distinguished Service Cross Purple Heart Silver Star This man fought through challenges in Vietnam that I cannot even imagine. Way more bravery than most of us will ever have. Stand down sir... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #32 February 21, 2010 Quote Don't feed the tr...........oops I almost said it. Then the luckster would scream PA. Still, don't feed em' RIP to a great man, Alexander Haig, let's make the threat about him, not a about a certain tr........ Let me finish the word for you... TROLL!!!!!!!!! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #33 February 21, 2010 Quote Both you and Lucky are low class.Even for you two this is a new low.Matt i can get lower. I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #34 February 21, 2010 Quotehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100220/ap_on_go_ot/us_obit_haig Altho a war hero, he was certainly tainted with typical Republican corruption. Oh well, RIP.hate copy and paste but oh well> RIP asshole>I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #35 February 21, 2010 Quote Quote http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100220/ap_on_go_ot/us_obit_haig Altho a war hero, he was certainly tainted with typical Republican corruption. Oh well, RIP. Good . Bump> rip asshole>http://motherjones.com/politics/1999/09/alexander-haig-still-in-control>Alexander Haig, who died Saturday, seemed to slip off the stage after a stint as Reagan's secretary of state. But he was a player well into his 70s, making a fortune by helping corporations do business with the world's most repressive regimes. — By Ken Silverstein===== When will the warmonger sheep learn? For your pleasure>http://dominoesmovie.com/neil-young-ohio/I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #36 February 21, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Don't feed the tr...........oops I almost said it. Then the luckster would scream PA. Still, don't feed em' RIP to a great man, Alexander Haig, let's make the threat about him, not a about a certain tr........ You're right. RIP to General Haig: Distinguished Flying Cross Distinguished Service Cross Purple Heart Silver Star This man fought through challenges in Vietnam that I cannot even imagine. Way more bravery than most of us will ever have. Stand down sir... The set of war heroes and the set of assholes are not mutually exclusive.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #37 February 21, 2010 QuoteThe set of war heroes and the set of assholes are not mutually exclusive. Anyone who has read deeply and extensively into the history of the inner-most workings of the Nixon and Ford Administrations and their key top personnel, including Haig - which I have - knows how very true that is. I say that purely from an historical perspective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #38 February 21, 2010 Quote Stand down sir... What, is this the 1800's Brittish Parlamentary? I do declare..... you shall stand down, sir..... or 20 paces....BTW, quit the PA's. You can't call people trolls inopen forum, PM me if ya wanna exchange niceties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #39 February 21, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Don't feed the tr...........oops I almost said it. Then the luckster would scream PA. Still, don't feed em' RIP to a great man, Alexander Haig, let's make the threat about him, not a about a certain tr........ You're right. RIP to General Haig: Distinguished Flying Cross Distinguished Service Cross Purple Heart Silver Star This man fought through challenges in Vietnam that I cannot even imagine. Way more bravery than most of us will ever have. Stand down sir... The set of war heroes and the set of assholes are not mutually exclusive. Words that should be written in stone.... BTW, Kallend, stand down, sir... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #40 February 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteThe set of war heroes and the set of assholes are not mutually exclusive. Anyone who has read deeply and extensively into the history of the inner-most workings of the Nixon and Ford Administrations and their key top personnel, including Haig - which I have - knows how very true that is. I say that purely from an historical perspective. Do you really have to read that deeply into it to make that determination? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #41 February 22, 2010 Quote Saying he was a war hero that was connected to a corrupt admin is an attack? OK. Uh, you wrote that he was promoted to 4 star status over qualified candidates. That's as clear an attack as it gets. (and in typical fashion for you, not supported by any facts) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #42 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuote Saying he was a war hero that was connected to a corrupt admin is an attack? OK. Uh, you wrote that he was promoted to 4 star status over qualified candidates. That's as clear an attack as it gets. (and in typical fashion for you, not supported by any facts) Historical note: http://www.startribune.com/templates/fdcp?1266862722583 QuoteNixon promoted Haig in 1972 from a two-star general to a four-star rank, passing over 240 high-ranking officers with greater seniority. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #43 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote Saying he was a war hero that was connected to a corrupt admin is an attack? OK. Uh, you wrote that he was promoted to 4 star status over qualified candidates. That's as clear an attack as it gets. (and in typical fashion for you, not supported by any facts) Historical note: http://www.startribune.com/templates/fdcp?1266862722583 QuoteNixon promoted Haig in 1972 from a two-star general to a four-star rank, passing over 240 high-ranking officers with greater seniority. I have no real stake in this but... just because the other senior officers had greater seniority it doesn't mean he wasn't just as qualified as them to hold the position he was placed into... at the GO level very often the Position and the Rank go hand in hand... Gen Haig could have been easily just as qualified or more qualified for the position as the other 2/3 star Generals that were more "senior" then him...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #44 February 22, 2010 QuoteNixon promoted Haig in 1972 from a two-star general to a four-star rank, passing over 240 high-ranking officers with greater seniority. I don't want generals being promoted in order of seniority. I suspect I'm not an outlier on this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #45 February 22, 2010 Quote QuoteNixon promoted Haig in 1972 from a two-star general to a four-star rank, passing over 240 high-ranking officers with greater seniority. I don't want generals being promoted in order of seniority. I suspect I'm not an outlier on this. you would be if you were in a union ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #46 February 22, 2010 That's why I called it an historical note - simply to point out the fact, without argument. The fact is that sometimes senior general officers get in the good graces of the President and are appointed by him to top positions. When that occurs, they "need" to be raised, if they're not already there, to an "appropriate" rank that befits the position. Another historical example of this is during WWII, when Gen. Eisenhower, under the sponsorship of his good friend, Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Marshall, quickly soared through the GO ranks, especially when FDR appointed him Supreme Commander of the European Theater. He, too, was promoted over quite a few more-senior generals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #47 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100220/ap_on_go_ot/us_obit_haig Altho a war hero, he was certainly tainted with typical Republican corruption. Oh well, RIP. Unbelievable. I know, how could such a war hero be tied to such corrpution? Oh well, it happens. No, that you can't even reign in your attacks in an obit thread. Of course, given your past history, I really shouldn't have expected anything better of you. Some people are born bitter. Others have to work at it every day." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #48 February 22, 2010 Quote That's why I called it an historical note - simply to point out the fact, without argument. The fact is that sometimes senior general officers get in the good graces of the President and are appointed by him to top positions. When that occurs, they "need" to be raised, if they're not already there, to an "appropriate" rank that befits the position. Another historical example of this is during WWII, when Gen. Eisenhower, under the sponsorship of his good friend, Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Marshall, quickly soared through the GO ranks, especially when FDR appointed him Supreme Commander of the European Theater. He, too, was promoted over quite a few more-senior generals. The problem lies in that the historical note doesn't support the arguement that Gen Haig was promoted over more qualified officers just that he was promoted over more senior officers... Unless someone is in a Union... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #49 February 22, 2010 It wasn't intended to support or detract from anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #50 February 22, 2010 the points are more focused at Lucky. We'll see if he offers up a real argument, and if the seniority argument was all he had. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
