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Joe should really man the f**k up. He can't act like he didn't know what he was setting himself up for by allowing himself to stay in the lime light like that. No pity for him from me. The fact he couldn't maintain his own momentum is the only thing he should be disappointed with.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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No sympathy here! It just stands to reason... when a politician wants to 'use' you, it's exactly that. Then too, 'Joe the Plumber' was looking for some form of 'benefit' from it and it didn't happen. He played the game and lost. There's a sucker born every minute and two to take 'em!


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...says McCain "really screwed my life up."



An unlicensed plumber and registered Republican; his life was already fucked up long before teh 2008 election.



Yeah... a man working hard to provide a living for his family and not wanting a politician to take it from him...

No surprise you think he was on the wrong track. If he just sat on his ass collecting unemployment then you'd support him and vote to increase his gov'ment paycheck.

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No surprise you think he was on the wrong track. If he just sat on his ass collecting unemployment then you'd support him and vote to increase his gov'ment paycheck.



He could not collect unemployment if he wanted too as he never paid taxes, never had a contractors licsense, or buisness licsense.

Limbaugh on the other hand did sit on his ass and collect unemployment.

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...says McCain "really screwed my life up."



An unlicensed plumber and registered Republican; his life was already fucked up long before teh 2008 election.



Yeah... a man working hard to provide a living for his family and not wanting a politician to take it from him...

No surprise you think he was on the wrong track. If he just sat on his ass collecting unemployment then you'd support him and vote to increase his gov'ment paycheck.



I can bet I work harder than you, so I assume you are not comparing the two of us. I haven't collected unemp for > a decade, again, not knowing what you're talking about is your trademark.

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Really? For all his rants, I don't see him saying that.




Thx for noticing, I'm too crazy to be lazy; I don't have the rep as a lazy fuck at work, just a bit eccentric perhaps. These guys can't seperate anything, it's either ALL one way or ALL the other.

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No surprise you think he was on the wrong track. If he just sat on his ass collecting unemployment then you'd support him and vote to increase his gov'ment paycheck.



He could not collect unemployment if he wanted too as he never paid taxes, never had a contractors licsense, or buisness licsense.

Limbaugh on the other hand did sit on his ass and collect unemployment.

Limbaugh; there's a great standard of a worthless, non-productive POS. IS that your standard of a productive American?:S Now I get it.

- FAA A&P lic
- FAA Insp Auth
- FCC GROL
- FAA pilot's lic
- BS Justice

My oh my, another one with all their facts in order. :S:ph34r:

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No surprise you think he was on the wrong track. If he just sat on his ass collecting unemployment then you'd support him and vote to increase his gov'ment paycheck.



He could not collect unemployment if he wanted too as he never paid taxes, never had a contractors licsense, or buisness licsense.

Limbaugh on the other hand did sit on his ass and collect unemployment.


Limbaugh; there's a great standard of a worthless, non-productive POS. IS that your standard of a productive American?:S Now I get it.

- FAA A&P lic
- FAA Insp Auth
- FCC GROL
- FAA pilot's lic
- BS Justice

My oh my, another one with all their facts in order. :S:ph34r:

Don't forget your VA Benefits...your FULL VA benefits...
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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No surprise you think he was on the wrong track. If he just sat on his ass collecting unemployment then you'd support him and vote to increase his gov'ment paycheck.



He could not collect unemployment if he wanted too as he never paid taxes, never had a contractors licsense, or buisness licsense.

Limbaugh on the other hand did sit on his ass and collect unemployment.


Limbaugh; there's a great standard of a worthless, non-productive POS. IS that your standard of a productive American?:S Now I get it.

- FAA A&P lic
- FAA Insp Auth
- FCC GROL
- FAA pilot's lic
- BS Justice

My oh my, another one with all their facts in order. :S:ph34r:


Don't forget your VA Benefits...your FULL VA benefits...

Full VA benefits as a 1-term enlistee, yea. How is that an incorrect way to state that? I see you and the ilk who responded have no comeback to my response of your silly assertions. Hell, even a rare poster said he saw none of your ridiculous claims of me being lazy or embracing laziness - sad to watch you guys struggle.

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No surprise you think he was on the wrong track. If he just sat on his ass collecting unemployment then you'd support him and vote to increase his gov'ment paycheck.



He could not collect unemployment if he wanted too as he never paid taxes, never had a contractors licsense, or buisness licsense.

Limbaugh on the other hand did sit on his ass and collect unemployment.


Limbaugh; there's a great standard of a worthless, non-productive POS. IS that your standard of a productive American?:S Now I get it.

- FAA A&P lic
- FAA Insp Auth
- FCC GROL
- FAA pilot's lic
- BS Justice

My oh my, another one with all their facts in order. :S:ph34r:


Don't forget your VA Benefits...your FULL VA benefits...


Full VA benefits as a 1-term enlistee, yea. How is that an incorrect way to state that? I see you and the ilk who responded have no comeback to my response of your silly assertions. Hell, even a rare poster said he saw none of your ridiculous claims of me being lazy or embracing laziness - sad to watch you guys struggle.

You cannot consistently state (or claim to know) what those "benes" are. You look to the Onion for inspiration, and wiki for vindication. You've accused me twice falsely, and talk about "hard" life on the flight ramp of a now closed air force base. I'm just reminding you, since you forget, as one who apparently works harder than all of us, don't have health care, think small businessmen are evil, and degrade those that have served, and their country at every opportunity.

I just like to bring that up so people don't get too caught up in your own momentum.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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...says McCain "really screwed my life up."



An unlicensed plumber and registered Republican; his life was already fucked up long before teh 2008 election.



Yeah... a man working hard to provide a living for his family and not wanting a politician to take it from him...

No surprise you think he was on the wrong track. If he just sat on his ass collecting unemployment then you'd support him and vote to increase his gov'ment paycheck.



I can bet I work harder than you, so I assume you are not comparing the two of us. I haven't collected unemp for > a decade, again, not knowing what you're talking about is your trademark.



You wanna bet that you work harder than me.... and then you brag about how long it's been since you collected unemployment?

What a joke.

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...says McCain "really screwed my life up."



An unlicensed plumber and registered Republican; his life was already fucked up long before teh 2008 election.



Yeah... a man working hard to provide a living for his family and not wanting a politician to take it from him...

No surprise you think he was on the wrong track. If he just sat on his ass collecting unemployment then you'd support him and vote to increase his gov'ment paycheck.



I can bet I work harder than you, so I assume you are not comparing the two of us. I haven't collected unemp for > a decade, again, not knowing what you're talking about is your trademark.



You wanna bet that you work harder than me.... and then you brag about how long it's been since you collected unemployment?

What a joke.




I'm not bragging that it has been > a decade since I collected unemp. I'm sure you're a closeted unemp collector, or, err, you deserve it and no on else does. I bet many so-called conservatives here have collected since I have.

As fro me working harder, I took the shit tank out of an Airbus this weekend, graped in shit. I'm constantly getting skydrol in my eyes, very painfull. I come home at the end of the day dirty, fucking greasy and tired. My hands are always getting banged, I have a myriad of scars to prove it. Now go back to your cubicle, I think I hear the gals telling you the water jug needs installing.

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In case you forgot what you addressed:

Limbaugh; there's a great standard of a worthless, non-productive POS. IS that your standard of a productive American? Now I get it.

- FAA A&P lic
- FAA Insp Auth
- FCC GROL
- FAA pilot's lic
- BS Justice

My oh my, another one with all their facts in order.


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You cannot consistently state (or claim to know) what those "benes" are.



What the benes for being a 1-term GI are thru the VA? Uh, I do and I use some. Brillaint assertion.

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You look to the Onion for inspiration, and wiki for vindication.



I look for reference and data, these are obviously not good sources. Vindication, do you even know what they means? What am I allegedly vindicating myself from?

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You've accused me twice falsely,...



If you finish a thought, accused you of what?

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and talk about "hard" life on the flight ramp of a now closed air force base.



The fact that it is now closed means nothing, see how pathetic your arguments are? The temp base set up on Tinian are now just rotting remanants, does that "undrop" the bombs? Silly argument.

It got < -50 degrees, is that weak? It would constantly be -20 to -30 with 12-20 foot snow drifts. We would tow acft in near whiteout conditions with 40+ knot winds. I would almost always work grave shift, unless we had ORI's or the sort, then it was 7-12's for 3 weeks on end and I would work 6pm to 6 am. So you have some kind of argument here as to how easy life was? Just finish your lame argument and call Air Force guys pussies. Really sad.

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I'm just reminding you, since you forget, as one who apparently works harder than all of us, ...



Not all people, just most self-riteous RWers who collecct some form of gov welfare and denounce other's forms of it.

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...don't have health care, ...



OK, and????

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...think small businessmen are evil, ...



Show whee I've stated that or is that just another delluded guess on your part?

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...and degrade those that have served, ...



Nice try at a lie, show where I have done that.

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...and their country at every opportunity.



I'm critical of this country, which is the design of it. It's called peaceful dissent, you snarl when libs do it, cheer when your beloved teabaggers do it, so your dislike at me doing it is merely your bias showing it's ugly head. Sad that you cannot see this.

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I just like to bring that up so people don't get too caught up in your own momentum.



No, this is typical RWer rallying the troops. Instead of addressing issues, you rely on rhetoric to try to envoke emotion to get a following. I seek and post data and draw a conclusion - you never seem to want to talk about that substantive stuff, do you? I guess I give you credit for running from data, it's only bad news for you.

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You cannot consistently state (or claim to know) what those "benes" are.



What the benes for being a 1-term GI are thru the VA? Uh, I do and I use some. Brillaint assertion.


Not my brilliant assertion, your assertion:
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3738107;search_string=VA%20;#3738107
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I'm not sure what I can get with teh VA as a 1-term vet,



Still more interesting is that it is in contract with:
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3328558;page=2;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;
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I'd rather leave you guessing which branch I served in than tell you. I am proud of the year I gave, the vet benefits I have, but ashamed of the trash that controls the brave and loyal troops.



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You've accused me twice falsely,...



If you finish a thought, accused you of what?

This one's a gem...http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3737501;so=ASC;sb=post_latest_reply;#3737501
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You must not be a vet,



What I find especially noteworthy of this is that that was only the first time. :D
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3783281;search_string=yet%20he%20served;#3783281

It's hilarious in its own tragic way. I honestly don't think you can keep up with your own lies.

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and talk about "hard" life on the flight ramp of a now closed air force base.



The fact that it is now closed means nothing, see how pathetic your arguments are? The temp base set up on Tinian are now just rotting remanants, does that "undrop" the bombs? Silly argument.

It got
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...think small businessmen are evil, ...



Show whee I've stated that or is that just another delluded guess on your part?


I screwed up here too, you said heavily tax "large corporations"

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...and degrade those that have served, ...



Nice try at a lie, show where I have done that.


I was in fact, mistaken. I was not remembering fully your brand of venom here:
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3329992;search_string=506th;#3329992
It is your country you hate, though you do little to stand by your fellow vets, if indeed they are that to you. However, by continuously pissing on your country, you do piss on those who serve it.
This one's a gem:
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3328558;page=4;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;
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but I don't hate the US, I just think it's a POS.



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I'm critical of this country, which is the design of it. It's called peaceful dissent, you snarl when libs do it, cheer when your beloved teabaggers do it, so your dislike at me doing it is merely your bias showing it's ugly head. Sad that you cannot see this.



I hide nothing in my distaste for your methods of perpetuating lies. I hold no distaste for honest dissent. I do fight fire with fire when you attack the character of people you don't know who disagree with you. I've been fortunate enough to meet many people here. Of Those I disagree with here, many I consider friends. Many in particular, I would walk through fire for.

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No, this is typical RWer rallying the troops. Instead of addressing issues, you rely on rhetoric to try to envoke emotion to get a following. I seek and post data and draw a conclusion - you never seem to want to talk about that substantive stuff, do you? I guess I give you credit for running from data, it's only bad news for you.



It wasn't I who made this about you. You did. I didn't bring up mine, or anybody else' work ethic. You did. Then you cited this list, which I'm assuming is your credentials of licenses, certifications and a degree?
- FAA A&P lic
- FAA Insp Auth
- FCC GROL
- FAA pilot's lic
- BS Justice

So, I'm not running from data, because for this thread, it's not really needed.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

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Not my brilliant assertion, your assertion:
http://www.dropzone.com/...tring=VA%20;#3738107



Your typical partial quoting: I'm not sure what I can get with teh VA as a 1-term vet,

What the entire passage reads: I'm not sure what I can get with teh VA as a 1-term vet, but I think it's sketchy, they don't cover everything and if you make toomuch they cut you.

If you were actually an honest person, you could quote the entire passage and embolden the part you want for clarity. But as a dishonest person as you are, you throw and partial and dont even, "..." So your grand point is what? Nothing. I basically know what I get as a 1-term vet, but do I know every aspect, every benefit? No. I am a 1-term, non-war vet during that time between VN and the Gulf War, so my benefits are limited. Now what was your worthless point here?

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Still more interesting is that it is in contract with:
http://www.dropzone.com/..._reply;so=ASC;mh=25;



I'd rather leave you guessing which branch I served in than tell you. I am proud of the year I gave, the vet benefits I have, but ashamed of the trash that controls the brave and loyal troops.

I realize this is baby steps, but you now have to point out the contrast. I'm used to having to baby you along here, so it's ok, but a reasonable person would finish their thought and at least establish a contradiction with their lame attempts.

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What I find especially noteworthy of this is that that was only the first time.
http://www.dropzone.com/...he%20served;#3783281

It's hilarious in its own tragic way. I honestly don't think you can keep up with your own lies.



Accused you if not being a vet? Is not being a vet an accusation? I rendered an opinion before that I was unsure whether you were a vet or not, not that I give a shit, but is that an accusation? Look, you're hung up on this, apparently due to your injury, but it really doesn't matter to me either way. I guess your English usage is different than mine or many people's by saying, "You've accused me twice falsely,..." Now accusing someone of lying about being a vet is more legitimate, but accusing someone of not being a vet is grammatically weird, there is no duty to be a vet. What you're trying to say is that I accused you of lying about your vet status, for which I don't recall accusing you of lying about. Again, this is your hang-up, not mine. I don't give a shit what your service was, you guys tend to be the specialists in Ad himinem, not me. Do I understand why? Of course I do; addressing your party's horrid record of fiscal irresponsibility is no fun for you, as well as other issues.

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I screwed up here too, you said heavily tax "large corporations"



I see, if you manufacture some non-difference on my part, it's a blatant lie, but if you, uh, screw up, it's just a biiiiig misunderstanding. Furthermore, the issues you bring up are so irrelevant on both sides, yet you spend the afternoon reasearching it for an issue that is non-substantive.

For the record, I HAVE NEVER WRITTEN/THOUGHT WE SHOULD TAX SMALL BUSINESS.

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I was in fact, mistaken. I was not remembering fully your brand of venom here:



Again, just a mistake. Oh brother, do you ever stop and read your BS? Two so-called mistakes over non-substantive issues. I realize you generalize me as some Jane Fonda VN Vet hating SOB, but it's just BS. I get it tho, when I talk to 1 RW maggot, I generalize that they are all a bunch of RW trash who want lower taxes, cut all social benefits and want to mass proliferate teh military, or sustain the already mass proliferated military. So I understand your generalizations, but just as mine are sometimes wrong, so are yours. Write a sticky note:

I:

- Think vets and GI's are great

- Think the US military is greatly misused

- Think virtually all Republicans are absolute garbage

- Love guns but think the 2nd doesn't reasonably give us the right to own them as non-militia members.

Etc, etc. I don't waver in my beliefs and you can find nothing to substantiate that I do.

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I hide nothing in my distaste for your methods of perpetuating lies.



You have illustrated no lies of mine, just, err, mistakes of yours. If you can, try to enumerate a list of so-called lies of mine and provide a reasonable explanation of how thyey're lies. Don't strain yourself.

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I hold no distaste for honest dissent.



Yes you do, you dislike libs dissenting the ways of the conservative gov. People dissenting againts the Iraq War, Bushes tax cuts or general fiscal policy, etc.

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I do fight fire with fire when you attack the character of people you don't know who disagree with you.



So your character assassinations are justified as counter-attacks, whereas my so-called attacks are the instigators. See, this is teh narrow view that America has that makes many countries hate us. 911 was a counter-attack, not an original. PH was an original attack, of course we killed 300k women/children to get the men to stop fighting; clear terrorism. Oh wait, that will piss you off and you would like to disallow me to have the right to peacefully dissent the bombing of 300k women/children, right? Case in point. You lack the ability to look at matters globally, just as an American nationalist.

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I've been fortunate enough to meet many people here. Of Those I disagree with here, many I consider friends. Many in particular, I would walk through fire for.



Is there a point in that, or just anointing yourself a martyr? I consider some friends too. I really like enlightening discourse on issues of substance rather than ad homien-based pissing matches, but I can't help myself there either. ;)

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It wasn't I who made this about you. You did. I didn't bring up mine, or anybody else' work ethic. You did. Then you cited this list, which I'm assuming is your credentials of licenses, certifications and a degree?
- FAA A&P lic
- FAA Insp Auth
- FCC GROL
- FAA pilot's lic
- BS Justice

So, I'm not running from data, because for this thread, it's not really needed.



W/o going back to see who said what, the general point was that I was a lazy, unemployed sucker of social benefits. To what degree you piggybacked on that I don't know/care.

As for data, you, like most connies will and do run from it - I can't blame ya.

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I'm not bragging that it has been > a decade since I collected unemp. I'm sure you're a closeted unemp collector, or, err, you deserve it and no on else does.



Nope. Never have.

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I bet many so-called conservatives here have collected since I have.



Maybe. Not sure what that has to do with you thinking you work harder than anyone.

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As fro me working harder, I took the shit tank out of an Airbus this weekend, graped in shit.



Just cause you're full of shit doesn't mean you work harder.

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I'm constantly getting skydrol in my eyes, very painfull. I come home at the end of the day dirty, fucking greasy and tired. My hands are always getting banged, I have a myriad of scars to prove it.



Congrats on working hard. I don't mean to shock you with eye opening news, but you're not the only one who works hard.

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Now go back to your cubicle, I think I hear the gals telling you the water jug needs installing.



So you, being covered in shit, are the hardest working person you know. Me, a guy on the internet you've never met, must be a white collar cubicle dweller that doesn't work enough to meet your stadards?

You're really digging yourself a hole here.

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I'm not bragging that it has been > a decade since I collected unemp. I'm sure you're a closeted unemp collector, or, err, you deserve it and no on else does.



Nope. Never have.

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I bet many so-called conservatives here have collected since I have.



Maybe. Not sure what that has to do with you thinking you work harder than anyone.

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As fro me working harder, I took the shit tank out of an Airbus this weekend, graped in shit.



Just cause you're full of shit doesn't mean you work harder.

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I'm constantly getting skydrol in my eyes, very painfull. I come home at the end of the day dirty, fucking greasy and tired. My hands are always getting banged, I have a myriad of scars to prove it.



Congrats on working hard. I don't mean to shock you with eye opening news, but you're not the only one who works hard.

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Now go back to your cubicle, I think I hear the gals telling you the water jug needs installing.



So you, being covered in shit, are the hardest working person you know. Me, a guy on the internet you've never met, must be a white collar cubicle dweller that doesn't work enough to meet your stadards?

You're really digging yourself a hole here.



The tank was draped in shit, not me. Nice PA tho.

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