kallend 2,112 #226 December 25, 2011 QuoteGood thing that there was a good guy with a gun there to drive away the bad guy, or the injury toll could have been worse. Right, only 9 to 1 in in favor of the bad guy. Good job the COP was there.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #227 December 25, 2011 QuoteGood thing that there was a good guy with a gun there to drive away the bad guy, or the injury toll could have been worse. J.R. you must be getting old & senile! Your posting has been getting better & better. By the way, as a red blooded american and someone who believes in the right to carry concealed weapons how many weapons do you carry at any one time? I carry 3, different calibers .45, .380, 40 cal, and different locations on my body. And YES, they're all legal. I even carry one to church when I'm home. I've alerted the pastor & parisioners as to what I'm doing so I won't get a call to the SO's office about brandishing if someone see's the thing in my 1/4 hip in a CCL holster. I've even had parishoners tell me I make them feel so much safer. I ask them to attend a CCL course, get fitted and stay strapped. But most of them wasn't raised on a military installion like I was. Exercise YOUR right to bear arms!-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #228 December 26, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote And another. Good thing that there was a good guy with a gun there to drive away the bad guy, or the injury toll could have been worse. Right, only 9 to 1 in in favor of the bad guy. Good job the COP was there. Would you prefer it was ten or more to zero? Also, technically the good guy was there as security, not as an officer working for the city. And, for the record, what make you call this one a "nutter", since you still can't/won't define your terms? Doesn't look like a headcase going off randomly. Looks like some piece of shit got into a fight in a club and pulled a gun.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #229 December 26, 2011 QuoteAnd, for the record, what make you call this one a "nutter", since you still can't/won't define your terms? Doesn't look like a headcase going off randomly. Looks like some piece of shit got into a fight in a club and pulled a gun. And what's even funnier in regards to kallend's argument, is that the shooter got away, so we don't even know if he's someone who could be classifed as mentally insane, we don't know how he got the gun, or even if he's someone prohibited from owning guns. But yet, in the complete absence of any facts, kallend calls him a nutter and implies that he shouldn't have had a gun. This is what passes for "logic" in the eyes of gun-o-phobes. God help any shooter that ends up in court with kallend on the jury. Reading more news stories... It seems that the "christmas party" was at a nightclub, the fight was between rival gangs, and that the shooting took place *behind* the night club, not inside during the party. One gang member pulled a gun and started shooting, then a rival gang member pulled his gun and started shooting back. Nine hit, zero dead. And kallend jumps to the conclusion that this is simply a problem with a "nutter". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #230 December 26, 2011 QuoteQuoteGood thing that there was a good guy with a gun there to drive away the bad guy, or the injury toll could have been worse. J.R. you must be getting old & senile! Your posting has been getting better & better. By the way, as a red blooded american and someone who believes in the right to carry concealed weapons how many weapons do you carry at any one time? I carry 3, different calibers .45, .380, 40 cal, and different locations on my body. And YES, they're all legal. I even carry one to church when I'm home. I've alerted the pastor & parisioners as to what I'm doing so I won't get a call to the SO's office about brandishing if someone see's the thing in my 1/4 hip in a CCL holster. I've even had parishoners tell me I make them feel so much safer. I ask them to attend a CCL course, get fitted and stay strapped. But most of them wasn't raised on a military installion like I was. Exercise YOUR right to bear arms! My first concealed carry instructor is an ordained minister. He carries everywhere legal to carry... even behind the pulpit at Sunday morning services. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #231 December 26, 2011 Protecting he flock sometimes means fighting off the wolves.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #232 December 26, 2011 QuoteProtecting he flock sometimes means fighting off the wolves. Well said.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #233 December 26, 2011 That's right! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #234 December 26, 2011 I don't know what news stories you're reading, but several I've read have the location inside a residential apartment, with the shooter being one of those down inside. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #235 December 26, 2011 That's another nutter with a gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #236 December 26, 2011 Uh oh! And yet Another. Looks like a domestic dispute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #237 December 26, 2011 Something needs to be done. These 3 year olds are absolutely running wild in the streets. We need to pass some laws to stop them from going on these murderous killing sprees. Something needs to be done!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #238 December 26, 2011 And yet another. I thought all those guns in Texas were supposed to prevent stuff like this.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #239 December 26, 2011 Exactly, I heard seatbeslts are supposed to prevent deaths also but, here we are, people are still dying in automobile crashes daily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #240 December 26, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote And another. Good thing that there was a good guy with a gun there to drive away the bad guy, or the injury toll could have been worse. Right, only 9 to 1 in in favor of the bad guy. Good job the COP was there. Would you prefer it was ten or more to zero? Also, technically the good guy was there as security, not as an officer working for the city. However, he IS sworn officer, not just your average gun toting redneck.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #241 December 26, 2011 QuoteExactly, I heard seatbeslts are supposed to prevent deaths also but, here we are, people are still dying in automobile crashes. My friend the State Trooper tells me he's never had to remove a body from a wreck when the individual was wearing a belt. I think Aggiedave once wrote something similar on here. www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4117672;search_string=seatbelt;#4117672 I've yet to hear of a case where a nutter went around murdering folks with a seatbelt.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #242 December 26, 2011 So you actually think the only people who die in automobile accidents are those who aren't wearing seatbelts? Do you have any idea how high the death rate from guns would be if citizens weren't armed? Think about how many criminals would simply go on wild killing sprees if they knew nobody except the police could stop them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #243 December 26, 2011 QuoteSo you actually think the only people who die in automobile accidents are those who aren't wearing seatbelts? Where did I write that? Quote Do you have any idea how high the death rate from guns would be if citizens weren't armed? Think about how many criminals would simply go on wild killing sprees if they knew nobody except the police could stop them. Yes, I expect it would become just as deadly as Australia, Canada or Western Europe.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #244 December 26, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo you actually think the only people who die in automobile accidents are those who aren't wearing seatbelts? Where did I write that? Weasel.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #245 December 26, 2011 QuoteQuoteSo you actually think the only people who die in automobile accidents are those who aren't wearing seatbelts? Where did I write that? You implied it, in your usual game-playing manner, with this: "My friend the State Trooper tells me he's never had to remove a body from a wreck when the individual was wearing a belt. I think Aggiedave once wrote something similar on here."So now, you seem to be telling us that your state trooper friend is a liar, and that you don't believe him. In which case, we have to wonder why you bothered to quote him in the first place. Welcome to the kallend school of debate, ladies and gentlemen. This is his modus operandii. He says things to imply something, usually anti-gun as you see here, and then when you point out the flaws in his statements and logic, he denies that he ever intended that meaning. He loves to attack and criticize others, but he hates to be on the receiving end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #246 December 26, 2011 Quote .... *** Welcome to the JR-school of debate, ladies and gentlemen. This is his modus operandii. He says things to imply something, usually antipro-gun as you see here, and then when you point out the flaws in his statements and logic, he denies that he ever intended that meaning. He loves to attack and criticize others, but he hates to be on the receiving end. Talking about yourself, JR? Again? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #247 December 26, 2011 Projecting again? The flaw in your logic is so glaring that we can all figure it out.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gher 0 #248 December 26, 2011 At the end of it all, unlike the Countries Dr. Kallend cited, the right of private ownership of arms, to include handguns, has been deemed to be fundamental to the rights of Americans in the US Constitution. To muse as to what the US would be without that right is mental masturbation, barring an amendment repealing the 2nd Amendment. The problem here is the definition of "Nutter." Is it defined before or after one does something? What sort of "Something," after performed, constitutes "Nutterism?" Who gets to decide if a particular act fits Nutter Criteria? What sort of academic background gives one the right to apply the criteria with authority? Next, you need to see if all the existing laws were properly enforced--Did the System work? If the system did not work, was it due to a mistake of one of the persons charged with enforcing it, or is the procedure inherently flawed? If the procedure was flawed, is it necessary to re-write it or simply ensure proper enforcement in the future? And all the hot air spewed on DZ.com has absolutely F**k-all effect on reality. We're all simply going to go back to work tomorrow or the day after and punch in, pitch in, punch out, and go home to bitch again on DZ.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #249 December 26, 2011 Not directed at you, Mr. Unknown ... http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topstories/article/232836/483/7-People-Shot-Dead-in-Texas-Home-Motive-nclear Peace on earth, all you armed folks .... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #250 December 26, 2011 Quote The problem here is the definition of "Nutter." Right, it's really unfair to say that a Texan who dresses up as Santa and then shoots dead 6 members of his family is mentally disturbed. Could be normal behavior.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites