End of Empire

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will the torch of empire now journey from the us to china...

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The coming of World War II ensured that whatever money still remained in Britain left quickly. Franklin Delano Roosevelt ruled an isolationist country that he wished to cajole into engaging in the war with Hitler as early and as completely as he could. But part of Roosevelt's strategy (and a not-altogether unwelcome consequence, for many who worked in the State, War, and Navy Building-a Victorian-era structure just west of the White House that looked like a French brothel) was to make Britain broke before American taxpayers' money was committed in any way to the fight against Hitler. Only after Britain had sold off the family silver to pay for the nozzle would America "lend" Britain its garden hose to fight the Hitlerian fire.

America did come to the aid of its closest, cherished, and most important embattled overseas ally after Britain was broke. The Grand Alliance was the great moment in the grand story of the English-speaking nations. It does remain Churchillian in the inherited grandeur of its narrative. And America did come to the rescue of England, and together-with enormous although unloved assistance from the Red Army of the Soviet Union and Josef Stalin-America did save the world from the horrors of the Nazis. But while we were gearing up to come to the rescue, we squeezed the British, and when World War II was over, the United States, not Britain, had the money. When the British borrowed money from us, it had to be repaid in dollars, not in sterling. And imports into Britain had to be rationed well into the 1950s.

http://www.alternet.org/world/145632/the_end_of_influence%3A_what_happens_when_other_countries_have_america%27s_money

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[kelpdiver 2]

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will the torch of empire now journey from the us to china...

Nope.

The US will continue to decline, but China will not rise to that peak. They have problems to deal with and the growing concern of limited resources.

[rhys 0]

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The US will continue to decline, but China will not rise to that peak. They have problems to deal with and the growing concern of limited resources.

Nope, China has the largest 'human recource' in the world. Our 'lives' are 'global' and we are already experiencing the negative (and positive) effects of these moves.

China witll be the worlds Factory and India will be it's administration.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[dreamdancer 0]

the us will be the airforce?

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[rhys 0]

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the us will be the airforce?

The US most definately would like to be/thinks it is/is aiming to be, the airforce.

Will be/will afford to be/will be allowed to be, I'm not so sure?

We'll see a little more after this next financial collapse, the reins will have to be pulled in at some stage and you can only diddle your books for so long...

The currency, recources and power will always be there. How it is distributed and to who, is constantly changing.

People will go to great lengths to capture these things but there is always a shift over time, in these exponential times it does not need to take too long for any such shift to take place.

Combat is old school, but it still makes money.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[hwt 0]

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will the torch of empire now journey from the us to china...

Most people in America do not realize how true this statement is , America no longer manufactures anything but instead imports their goods from Asian markets due to the higher and higher demands for tax revenue placed on them by the government. Unions in California have driven the state to the verge of bankruptcy. Obama is in bed with the unions and the progressives think they are the solution to higher pay for the workers. Just look at the economy in Greece to see if unions are good .
China may have its own problems but they know that manufacturing is the key to growth. so my answer is that China will soon be #1.

[Lucky... 0]

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Most people in America do not realize how true this statement is , America no longer manufactures anything but instead imports their goods from Asian markets due to the higher and higher demands for tax revenue placed on them by the government.

The US gov places higher taxes on goods??? This assertion is ambiguous.

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Unions in California have driven the state to the verge of bankruptcy.

Then how is it that wages have fallen, the rich richer, yet the unions are the ones forcing higher wages and company expenses? Your 'guess' just doesn't add up. It's a neat cliche you post here, but you would have to establish that unions have driven wages up causing some kind of catastrophic mess - you simply haven't done so at all, but esp w/o any supporting data/evidece. You would have to show how the unions drove wages up, putting businesses out of work, or something to that effect - and do so in mass scale, not one or two.

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Obama is in bed with the unions and the progressives think they are the solution to higher pay for the workers.

Show what Obama has done in regard to uniuon strengthening and how it has played out. HINT: Cali was in big trouble beforre Obama took office; try to make a coherent argument.

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Just look at the economy in Greece to see if unions are good .

Provide evidence for your guess that Greece's problems are due to unionization. Now, if you can do that, which you can't, show how that is the problem of the world.

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China may have its own problems but they know that manufacturing is the key to growth. so my answer is that China will soon be #1.

Well, to support your problem, if the world adopted the oppressive labor practices that China did, perhaps the world could be as productive as China.

Communism: The means of production is controlled by the gov

Socialism: Means of production controlled by the people

Capitalism: Means of production controlled by the market (market controlled by teh elite)

SO what you're saying is that in countries where the means of production is controlled by the gov, they are more successful, yet you want smaller, less intrusive government. Sorry son, you can't have it all ways, either select a gov-run market or select one that is more independent and has unionization. As with most connies, you want it both ways, or should I say, shit on teh poor and give the rich everything. See how the ends of Communism and Capitalism reach around the back side and touch / share values? Look up UTILITARIANISM and you'll better understand how the US has COmmunist ideals at the will of the RW.