SpeedRacer 1 #151 February 13, 2010 Completely irrelevant attempt at an analogy. 5 yard penalty. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #152 February 13, 2010 Quote Quote Affirmative Action is racist. if you steal something and the police take it back - are they stealing from you? FAIL!*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #153 February 13, 2010 Quote Completely irrelevant attempt at an analogy. 5 yard penalty. affirmative action is just a strawman for resentful whites - back to teabaggers again (are you in the party)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #154 February 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Affirmative Action is racist. if you steal something and the police take it back - are they stealing from you? FAIL! you've marked your own paper (are you a teabagger too)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #155 February 13, 2010 If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. Affirmative Action is racism. Anytime someone is disqualify from a job solely because of their race, it's racism. Jobs should go to the most qualified candidates regardless of their race. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #156 February 13, 2010 Quote If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. Affirmative Action is racism. Anytime someone is disqualify from a job solely because of their race, it's racism. Jobs should go to the most qualified candidates regardless of their race. it's good to get all that resentment out. but remember whites made all the profits from slavery. perhaps universal healthcare would be a good idea (and perhaps you should try another sport)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #157 February 13, 2010 What the hell does trying another sport have to do with your racist beliefs? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #158 February 13, 2010 you can't play basketball - but want everyone to feel sympathy for you. how about football instead stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #159 February 13, 2010 You are a delusional Leftist who walked right into the basketball trap. You think I give a damn about basketball? Good grief ... I will say one thing though about the people running the NBA. They are not delusional Leftists. They know race is not an issue in their sport when it comes to employing people. They know not to implement brain dead policies like "Affirmative Action". The NBA gives jobs to the best basketball players in the world regardless of their race. BTW Spare me your crap about slavery. First off it does not apply to me. Wrong frigging country. The country of my birth did not practice this slavery you speak of. Secondly I was not alive when slavery took place. I had nothing to do with it. Stop living in the past. The world is changing everyday. "Affirmative Action" is racist. Give the jobs to the people who are most qualified regardless of their race. I don't know about your environment, but where I am I work with people of all different races. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #160 February 13, 2010 i'll debate the future with you, if you can agree that affirmative action was the best thing to do at the time (considering the undoubted racism exhibited by whites at the time) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #161 February 13, 2010 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=9&ved=0CCAQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanthinker.com%2F2009%2F09%2Fblack_tea_party_express_tour_t.html&rct=j&q=african+american+tea+party+members&ei=snl2S4XBLOD48Qb0n4j0CQ&usg=AFQjCNHldqJj6vWVwHUiV19BuLOey-nKrQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQp0AyaI2ao&feature=relatedYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #162 February 13, 2010 i don't click on unknown links (is there interesting stuff there) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #163 February 13, 2010 To make it more palatable to you. Some Alternet Bullshit More Alternet BullshitYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #164 February 13, 2010 now you're being sneaky (luckily i can see the dire origins of your links before having to click - try again) surely you can put some descriptive words together for us? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #165 February 13, 2010 and surely you can look at the links and tell they are not hazardous or offensive.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #166 February 13, 2010 Quote Quote If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. Affirmative Action is racism. Anytime someone is disqualify from a job solely because of their race, it's racism. Jobs should go to the most qualified candidates regardless of their race. it's good to get all that resentment out. but remember whites made all the profits from slavery. perhaps universal healthcare would be a good idea (and perhaps you should try another sport) Your statement(s) here is (are) not true"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #167 February 13, 2010 Quote i'll debate the future with you, if you can agree that affirmative action was the best thing to do at the time (considering the undoubted racism exhibited by whites at the time) "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #168 February 13, 2010 so you're saying that if Joe and Bob both apply for the same position, and Joe gets that job because of his race, and Bob is left unemployed, that it's not racism?-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #169 February 13, 2010 what i am saying is that the tea party are obviously very resentful of affirmative action (ie it's a racial thing). now, there was a need for affirmative action back in the sixties - do you agree that it was needed? if you do then we can debate the future stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #170 February 13, 2010 Quote what i am saying is that the tea party are obviously very resentful of affirmative action (ie it's a racial thing). now, there was a need for affirmative action back in the sixties - do you agree that it was needed? if you do then we can debate the future Obvious, how? By the way. This is 2010"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #171 February 13, 2010 Quote To make it more palatable to you. Some Alternet Bullshit More Alternet Bullshit I like the part about "I am not an Africa America. I am an American". Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #172 February 13, 2010 50 years ago, it was needed. Now, it is institutional racism. There should not be a "race" set of checkboxes on any college application. No unqualified applicant should be hired for a job or admitted to a school over a qualified applicant based on race. By making race a factor at all (even if it's not the only factor), affirmative action is (by definition) pre-judging an applicant based on their race. Prejudice based on race. That's racism isn't it? (by the way, nice non-answer on my question. because you know the answer would have involved "what color is bob")-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #173 February 13, 2010 what do you think will happen if affirmative action is ended now. something like the glass-steagall act?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #174 February 13, 2010 QuoteThere should not be a "race" set of checkboxes on any application. I few years ago I started a new job with a fairly large corporation. On day one they had me fill out a series of survey questions. One of the questions was "Are you a member of a visible minority (this would include African American, Native Indian, East Indian, Oriental, etc, etc)." I could not believe it. But being new to the company I did not want to rock the boat, so I answered what they wanted me to say which was "No". Now I bring this up because in my local area of the city I live in, I am NOT part of the dominate race. Walk around my local grocery store and 10 out of 20 people are Chinese, 6-7 out of 20 are caucasian and the remaining 3-4 out of 20 are some other race. Now don't get me wrong I am NOT oppressed by the Chinese nor do I feel that I am disadvantaged. But the world is changing. People from all over the world are emigrating/immigrating to various western countries. The stereotypes of yesterday do not fit the reality of today or tomorrow. I have no problem if a Chinese person gets the job offer ahead of me. I know the Chinese are very smart people and they are very hard workers. The bottom line is that the most qualified candidate (regardless of their race) should be the one given the job offer. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #175 February 13, 2010 QuoteQuoteThere should not be a "race" set of checkboxes on any application. I few years ago I started a new job with a fairly large corporation. On day one they had me fill out a series of survey questions. One of the questions was "Are you a member of a visible minority (this would include African American, Native Indian, East Indian, Oriental, etc, etc)." I could not believe it. But being new to the company I did not want to rock the boat, so I answered what they wanted me to say which was "No". Now I bring this up because in my local area of the city I live in, I am NOT part of the dominate race. Walk around my local grocery store and 10 out of 20 people are Chinese, 6-7 out of 20 are caucasian and the remaining 3-4 out of 20 are some other race. Now don't get me wrong I am NOT oppressed by the Chinese nor do I feel that I am disadvantaged. But the world is changing. People from all over the world are emigrating/immigrating to various western countries. The stereotypes of yesterday do not fit the reality of today or tomorrow. This most qualified candidate (regardless of their race) should be the one given the job offer. yes, you keep telling us how resentful you are. now answer my question - was affirmative action ncessary even if it's usefulness is now ended?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites