White Racial Resentment Bubbles Under the Surface of the Tea Party Movement

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all the posters need do here is acknowledge that it is a real factor in the tea party movement.

And we're supposed to acknowledge your false assumption, why?

I guess all these white people at this tea party must have been blind.

[rushmc 23]

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Simply put?

He is trolling

another pa.

I didnt call you a troll, I said you were trolling
Are you an adult?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Abe Lincoln was both a republican and a racist. (To be fair, the republican party of Lincoln's day, made up of the remnants of the Whig party, is probably closer aligned with today's Democratic party.)

Personally, I find the fact that Lincoln is regarded as a "great" president quite disheartening.

Here's a few more gems from him:

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"It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation, and deportation, peaceably, and in such degrees, as the evil will wear off insensibly; and their places be . . . filled up by free white laborers."

~ Lincoln, February 27, 1860, New York City

"But if gradual emancipation and deportation be adopted, they will have neither to flee from . . . till new homes can be found for them, in congenial climes, and with people of their own blood and race."

~ Lincoln’s 1862 State of the Union Address

I consider Lincoln one of the worst presidents in US History.

Sorry but MOST of those kinds of conservative Democrats left that party when LBJ stabbed them in the back(in their thinking at least) back in the 1960's. Guess where most of those southern conservatives who found being in the same party with so many blacks ended up?

[futuredivot 0]

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Simply put?

He is trolling

another pa.

I didnt call you a troll, I said you were trolling
Are you an adult?

We've found Lucky's long lost twin sister.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[rushmc 23]

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Simply put?

He is trolling

another pa.

I didnt call you a troll, I said you were trolling
Are you an adult?

We've found Lucky's long lost twin sister.

Or mirror double??

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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oops-Brother. I think I've made that same mistake before. I think the user name reminds me of someone that was female. Apologies.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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Simply put?

He is trolling

another pa.

I didnt call you a troll, I said you were trolling
Are you an adult?

another pa

meanwhile back to topic...

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Most people don't like it when I say this. It makes them angry. In the "era of colorblindness" there's a nearly fanatical desire to cling to the myth that we as a nation have "moved beyond" race. Here are a few facts that run counter to that triumphant racial narrative:

*There are more African Americans under correctional control today -- in prison or jail, on probation or parole -- than were enslaved in 1850, a decade before the Civil War began.

*As of 2004, more African American men were disenfranchised (due to felon disenfranchisement laws) than in 1870, the year the Fifteenth Amendment was ratified, prohibiting laws that explicitly deny the right to vote on the basis of race.

* A black child born today is less likely to be raised by both parents than a black child born during slavery. The recent disintegration of the African American family is due in large part to the mass imprisonment of black fathers.

*If you take into account prisoners, a large majority of African American men in some urban areas have been labeled felons for life. (In the Chicago area, the figure is nearly 80%.) These men are part of a growing undercaste -- not class, caste -- permanently relegated, by law, to a second-class status. They can be denied the right to vote, automatically excluded from juries, and legally discriminated against in employment, housing, access to education, and public benefits, much as their grandparents and great-grandparents were during the Jim Crow era.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/03/08-6

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meanwhile back to topic excuses...

Fixed that for you.

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*There are more African Americans under correctional control today -- in prison or jail, on probation or parole -- than were enslaved in 1850, a decade before the Civil War began.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

*As of 2004, more African American men were disenfranchised (due to felon disenfranchisement laws) than in 1870, the year the Fifteenth Amendment was ratified, prohibiting laws that explicitly deny the right to vote on the basis of race.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

* A black child born today is less likely to be raised by both parents than a black child born during slavery. The recent disintegration of the African American family is due in large part to the mass imprisonment of black fathers.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

*If you take into account prisoners, a large majority of African American men in some urban areas have been labeled felons for life. (In the Chicago area, the figure is nearly 80%.) These men are part of a growing undercaste -- not class, caste -- permanently relegated, by law, to a second-class status. They can be denied the right to vote, automatically excluded from juries, and legally discriminated against in employment, housing, access to education, and public benefits, much as their grandparents and great-grandparents were during the Jim Crow era.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

Actions have consequences.

Mike
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strange how its the blacks that get the large part of the punishment for crime in us society

why would you say that is mnealtx?

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strange how its the blacks that get the large part of the punishment for crime in us society

why would you say that is mnealtx?

I don't think I've heard of someone incarcerated for being found INNOCENT of a crime.

Why would you say that is, kevin?

Mike
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you're telling me about this tree and that tree - but you can't see the wood

(why are blacks punished disproportionately to whites for the crimes they commit)

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you're telling me about this tree and that tree - but you can't see the wood

(why are blacks punished disproportionately to whites for the crimes they commit)

Why don't you come up with some PROOF of that instead of the usual vague accusations of racism, and we'll discuss it.

Mike
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you're telling me about this tree and that tree - but you can't see the wood

(why are blacks punished disproportionately to whites for the crimes they commit)

Why don't you come up with some PROOF of that instead of the usual vague accusations of racism, and we'll discuss it.

the proof is in your prison system. the numbers reveal that blacks get treated unfairly compared to whites. the UN know this, i know this, pretty much everyone knows this - why don't you?

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[mnealtx 0]

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you're telling me about this tree and that tree - but you can't see the wood

(why are blacks punished disproportionately to whites for the crimes they commit)

Why don't you come up with some PROOF of that instead of the usual vague accusations of racism, and we'll discuss it.

the proof is in your prison system. the numbers reveal that blacks get treated unfairly compared to whites. the UN know this, i know this, pretty much everyone knows this - why don't you?

Nope, sorry - try again. By your logic, males are treated unfairly compared to females in the prison system.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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i didn't say anything about male and female. blacks are disproportionately punished for their crimes compared to whites - simple, but sad fact

more facts for you...

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There is, of course, a colorblind explanation for all this: crime rates. Our prison population has exploded from about 300,000 to more than 2 million in a few short decades, it is said, because of rampant crime. We're told that the reason so many black and brown men find themselves behind bars and ushered into a permanent, second-class status is because they happen to be the bad guys.

The uncomfortable truth, however, is that crime rates do not explain the sudden and dramatic mass incarceration of African Americans during the past 30 years. Crime rates have fluctuated over the last few decades -- they are currently are at historical lows -- but imprisonment rates have consistently soared. Quintupled, in fact. And the vast majority of that increase is due to the War on Drugs. Drug offenses alone account for about two-thirds of the increase in the federal inmate population, and more than half of the increase in the state prison population.

The drug war has been brutal -- complete with SWAT teams, tanks, bazookas, grenade launchers, and sweeps of entire neighborhoods -- but those who live in white communities have little clue to the devastation wrought. This war has been waged almost exclusively in poor communities of color, even though studies consistently show that people of all colors use and sell illegal drugs at remarkably similar rates. In fact, some studies indicate that white youth are significantly more likely to engage in illegal drug dealing than black youth. Any notion that drug use among African Americans is more severe or dangerous is belied by the data. White youth, for example, have about three times the number of drug-related visits to the emergency room as their African American counterparts.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/03/08-6

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[mnealtx 0]

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i didn't say anything about male and female. blacks are disproportionately punished for their crimes compared to whites - simple, but sad fact

It's the same logic you're trying to use to make your claim about blacks, so it must be equally as valid.

[blah blah commondreams blah blah snipped]

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[rushmc 23]

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strange how its the blacks that get the large part of the punishment for crime in us society

why would you say that is mnealtx?

Because they did not listen to the "If you cant do the time....." advise

Funny how you want to blame actions of others on society instead of the one who was in action

But this is just another symptom of your problem

You can get help

oh

And are you of an adult age?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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just more pa's from you rushmc.

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i didn't say anything about male and female. blacks are disproportionately punished for their crimes compared to whites - simple, but sad fact

It's the same logic you're trying to use to make your claim about blacks, so it must be equally as valid.

[blah blah commondreams blah blah snipped]

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

i give you proof. and you go 'blah blah'.

bit more for you. would you agree with this amazon?

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President Ronald Reagan officially declared the current drug war in 1982, when drug crime was declining, not rising. From the outset, the war had little to do with drug crime and nearly everything to do with racial politics. The drug war was part of a grand and highly successful Republican Party strategy of using racially coded political appeals on issues of crime and welfare to attract poor and working class white voters who were resentful of, and threatened by, desegregation, busing, and affirmative action. In the words of H.R. Haldeman, President Richard Nixon's White House Chief of Staff: "[T]he whole problem is really the blacks. The key is to devise a system that recognizes this while not appearing to."

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/03/08-6

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just more pa's from you rushmc.

You are very thinned skinned my friend should you consider these posts pa's. Either that or you dont like tough questions

It as it is I guess

Are you an adult?

And you made a post just a bit earlier that said "your prison system, or something close. I take it you are not a US citizen?

And help is avialable

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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just attacks on the poster rushmc - nothing more from you
(when did you stop beating your wife)

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The drug war has never been focused on rooting out drug kingpins or violent offenders. Federal funding flows to those agencies that increase dramatically the volume of drug arrests, not the agencies most successful in bringing down the bosses. What gets rewarded in this war is sheer numbers of drug arrests. To make matters worse, federal drug forfeiture laws allow state and local law enforcement agencies to keep for their own use 80% of the cash, cars, and homes seized from drug suspects, thus granting law enforcement a direct monetary interest in the profitability of the drug market.

The results have been predictable: people of color rounded up en masse for relatively minor, non-violent drug offenses. In 2005, four out of five drug arrests were for possession, only one out of five for sales. Most people in state prison have no history of violence or even of significant selling activity. In fact, during the 1990s -- the period of the most dramatic expansion of the drug war -- nearly 80% of the increase in drug arrests was for marijuana possession, a drug generally considered less harmful than alcohol or tobacco and at least as prevalent in middle-class white communities as in the inner city.

In this way, a new racial undercaste has been created in an astonishingly short period of time -- a new Jim Crow system.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/03/08-6

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[rushmc 23]

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just attacks on the poster rushmc - nothing more from you
(when did you stop beating your wife)

Ohh,

Now another kind of baiting?

Get help dude
It is not worth going through life as angry as you are

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[mnealtx 0]

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i give you proof. and you go 'blah blah'.

I gave you just as much - since men greatly outnumber women in the prison system, males are obviously being disproportionately punished for their crimes.

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bit more for you. would you agree with this?

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President Ronald Reagan officially declared the current drug war in 1982, when drug crime was declining, not rising. From the outset, the war had little to do with drug crime and nearly everything to do with racial politics. The drug war was part of a grand and highly successful Republican Party strategy of using racially coded political appeals on issues of crime and welfare to attract poor and working class white voters who were resentful of, and threatened by, desegregation, busing, and affirmative action. In the words of H.R. Haldeman, President Richard Nixon's White House Chief of Staff: "[T]he whole problem is really the blacks. The key is to devise a system that recognizes this while not appearing to."

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/03/08-6

Nope, sure don't agree with that drivel.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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just attacks on the poster rushmc - nothing more from you
(when did you stop beating your wife)

Ohh,

Now another kind of baiting?

Get help dude
It is not worth going through life as angry as you are

you haven't answered my question - when did you stop beating your wife? as you refuse to answer i assume you still are
meanwhile...

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Democrats began competing with Republicans to prove that they could be even tougher on the dark-skinned pariahs. In President Bill Clinton's boastful words, "I can be nicked a lot, but no one can say I'm soft on crime." The facts bear him out. Clinton's "tough on crime" policies resulted in the largest increase in federal and state prison inmates of any president in American history. But Clinton was not satisfied with exploding prison populations. He and the "New Democrats" championed legislation banning drug felons from public housing (no matter how minor the offense) and denying them basic public benefits, including food stamps, for life. Discrimination in virtually every aspect of political, economic, and social life is now perfectly legal, if you've been labeled a felon.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/03/08-6

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