jclalor 12 #251 February 20, 2010 ***Quotehttp://randyhaddock.com/post/397776463/response-to-olbermann-people-of-color-at-tea[/repl I watched the whole video, and outside of those being interviewed or those on stage I could not see any "People of color" in the background.I dont think the tea party is racsist as a whole but I think they have a higher percentage of them than the general population, just like many way far left leaning movements do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #252 February 20, 2010 QuoteI dont think the tea party is racsist as a whole but I think they have a higher percentage of them than the general population, just like many way far left leaning movements do. Then I'm sure that you can provide the timestamps where they were all booed when they came on stage, what with all those racists in the audience. Your statement also begs the question of WHY those racists would invite them in the first place. /sarcasm I'm sure there ARE some racists in the Tea Party movement, just as I'm sure there are some racists in both the Republican and Democratic parties. I don't believe that racists comprise a majority in any of them, regardless of what alternatreality.net says.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #253 February 20, 2010 Quote http://randyhaddock.com/post/397776463/response-to-olbermann-people-of-color-at-tea I stumbled across this one when I made a spelling mistake (imagine that ) Thought of the dreamer when I started seeing what is washttp://www.ez-websites.com/grudge/ by the way, I was trying to spell Drudgereport.com"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #254 February 20, 2010 QuoteI'm sure there ARE some racists in the Tea Party movement, just as I'm sure there are some racists in both the Republican and Democratic parties. these are white racists you're talking about right? QuoteTea Party movement condones racism If the Tea Party movement wanted to shake its image as the angriest bastion for the lunatic right -- with heavy emphasis on the lunatic part -- last weekend’s first-ever national convention in Nashville did not help. Tea partiers should have at least flinched when Mr. Tancredo started out by attacking President Barack Obama by invoking his middle name of Hussein – that shopworn technique of not-so-subtly suggesting some nefarious Iraqi connection. Or perhaps when he blustered that “people who could not even spell the word or say it in English put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House.” But when the Republican suggested that Mr. Obama won because the nation lacks a civics and literacy test for voters, the crowd should have been stunned and alarmed. Surely, anyone familiar with this country’s civil rights history should have been. For decades, such tests had one purpose: to prevent blacks from voting. And to make reference to them in the context of the country’s first African-American president? That’s not some slip of the tongue or a moment of political incorrectness. That’s the stuff of Klan rallies. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/2010/02/post_39.htmlstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhaig 0 #255 February 20, 2010 I still contend that one should have to answer a quiz about the candidates you're voting for to prove that you know the candidate's platform, and not just their name, gender or color.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #256 February 21, 2010 QuoteI still contend that one should have to answer a quiz about the candidates you're voting for to prove that you know the candidate's platform, and not just their name, gender or color. I have a better idea. How about literacy tests and poll taxes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #257 February 22, 2010 QuoteI have a better idea. How about literacy tests and poll taxes? I've got a better one than that - how about verifying they actually live in the voting district and can legally vote?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhaig 0 #258 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteI still contend that one should have to answer a quiz about the candidates you're voting for to prove that you know the candidate's platform, and not just their name, gender or color. I have a better idea. How about literacy tests and poll taxes? (nice knee-jerk, content-less response. btw) see, in today's world, you just have to pay attention. You don't have to be able to read, or have money in order to learn what your candidate stands for. Straight ticket voters should get a boot in the ass. That's ignorance or laziness plain and simple. Part of our problem today is people aren't invested in the choices they make. "let me vote for the woman for that office, and the black guy for that office, and the old white dude for that office... nah, I don't know what they stand for, and I won't care how they do their jobs" That's the attitude I see in a lot of todays voters. Do I think there would ever be such a quiz enacted? No. Because of the literacy test and poll taxes of the past, there will never be any obstacles to voting. Nor should there be. I just wish there were some way to make people give a shit enough to know who they're voting for. But not only do voters not give a shit about the issues, other voters (apparently you, though I could be wrong. your response didn't give much indication of anything) don't give a shit that some voters don't give a shit.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #259 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteI still contend that one should have to answer a quiz about the candidates you're voting for to prove that you know the candidate's platform, and not just their name, gender or color. I have a better idea. How about literacy tests and poll taxes? (nice knee-jerk, content-less response. btw) It's the appropriate response for any proposal to limit voting. Any solution is worse than what we have now. The good part, for your concern, is that the lazy voters tend not to show, and the really lazy don't even register. (You'll see no support for me for mandatory registration or voting as seen in many countries) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #260 February 27, 2010 QuoteRep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) is well known as a diehard opponent of abortion. He formerly served as the executive director of the Arizona branch of the Family Research Institute and has called President Obama an "enemy of humanity" because of his pro-choice stance. Franks may have gotten himself in more trouble than he anticipated, however, when he insisted to blogger and political activist Mike Stark that abortion was worse for African-Americans than slavery. "In this country we had slavery for God knows how long," Franks told Stark. "And now we look back on it and we say, 'Well how blind were they, what was the matter with them.' ... And yet today half of all black children are aborted. Half of all black children are aborted. Far more black children, far more of the African-American community, is being devastated by the policies of today than were being devastated by the policies of slavery." Stark's own comment on the interview is that "it sounds an awful lot to me like the Congressman is suggesting that blacks were better off as slaves. http://rawstory.com/2010/02/gop-rep-implies-blacks-slavery/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #261 February 27, 2010 QuoteStark's own comment on the interview is that "it sounds an awful lot to me like the Congressman is suggesting that blacks were better off as slaves. Pure, intentional misinterpretation by Stark. Not as bad as some of the trash tactics he's used in the past but still pretty low-end. Mike exists to prove that left whack jobs are as bad as right whack jobs.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #262 March 4, 2010 QuoteQuoteStark's own comment on the interview is that "it sounds an awful lot to me like the Congressman is suggesting that blacks were better off as slaves. Pure, intentional misinterpretation by Stark. Not as bad as some of the trash tactics he's used in the past but still pretty low-end. Mike exists to prove that left whack jobs are as bad as right whack jobs. sounds like the congressman is the whack job...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #263 March 4, 2010 Quote sounds like the congressman is the whack job... Not if you can mange to process without bringing your own prejudices to the table. Like Stark, you're going to hear what you want to hear.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #264 March 4, 2010 Quote Quote sounds like the congressman is the whack job... Not if you can mange to process without bringing your own prejudices to the table. Like Stark, you're going to hear what you want to hear. no, sounds like the congressman is slightly unhinged. it's like saying jews were better off under hitler than they are now in israel stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #265 March 4, 2010 Quote Quote Quote sounds like the congressman is the whack job... Not if you can mange to process without bringing your own prejudices to the table. Like Stark, you're going to hear what you want to hear. no, sounds like the congressman is slightly unhinged. it's like saying jews were better off under hitler than they are now in israel without bringing your own prejudicesYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #266 March 4, 2010 so what was he trying to say?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites futuredivot 0 #267 March 5, 2010 Quoteso what was he trying to say? That when we look back we'll see the abortion trend as a detriment to the negroid race in North America. I don't expect to change your mind, though. I doubt that you can unhitch your personal baggage from the cart.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #268 March 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteso what was he trying to say? That when we look back we'll see the abortion trend as a detriment to the negroid race in North America. I don't expect to change your mind, though. I doubt that you can unhitch your personal baggage from the cart. negroid eh? (personal baggage you say - is this congressman white?)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #269 March 5, 2010 Just because YOU are all ate up with white guilt, doesn't mean any of the rest of us have cause to be.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #270 March 5, 2010 i know you don't like the racist facts stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #271 March 5, 2010 Quote i know you don't like the racist facts When you actually PRESENT some facts (instead of the hallucinogen-inspired rantings from alternatereality.net), let me know and I'll take a look at them.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #272 March 5, 2010 in denial eh? (that the us is d/riven with racism)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #273 March 5, 2010 Quotein denial eh? (that the us is d/riven with racism) Not in denial at all, thanks. There's plenty of racism occurring in the States - you're just mistaken as to the source, as shown in your OP.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dreamdancer 0 #274 March 5, 2010 where is the racism then mnealtx? (waits for usual stupid thetorical response that doesn't actually answer the question)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Meso 38 #275 March 5, 2010 The whole racism card sucks. On one hand you have those who claim anything and everything is out of racial prejudice, and like to blame racism for their short-comings. Then you have those who think the only way to be racist is to kick a black dudes teeth out. Or call him a 'nigger'. I too live in South Africa so I'm well aware of both sides. Society as a whole is racist, whether one likes to admit it or not. In South Africa however you have the effects of Apartheid, and while I don't believe anything is a justifiable excuse for racism, many blacks in the country feel as though they were invaded, imprisoned and segregated- which is true. So now they feel as though they are owed something for being put down for all those years. And it's easy for a white person to say "They mustn't keep referring to apartheid" but if the roles were reversed and it was the whites who were oppressed, we'd be doing exactly the same thing. All in all through the years whites have looked down on blacks as a whole. You see a poor black guy and it's "Wow, typical bum...he should get a job", but as soon as you see that black guy driving a BMW it's "He probably stole that" or "I bet he got his job through AA". There is a constant idea that blacks will never be successful unless they are cheating their way there. It's either that or one gets jealous of the rich black guy driving the expensive car, thinking he doesn't deserve it. And you can deny these things but the reality is happens, not in everyone's minds, but in plenty who claim not to be racist. But I'm not going to stop with what the whites do wrong, then in South Africa you have the blacks who believe the white man mustn't run anything in the country because seeing a white man as a CEO is racist too! And that only companies which employ black leaders are not racist, despite qualifications- These people are also morons. Using race to gain positions they are not qualified for. It's no secret that people hire underqualified workers because they need that colour in their staff. Now you may ask why these black citizens are under qualified. That IS thanks to apartheid, as much as the whites may try to dismiss it, apartheid fucked the country up badly. Blacks were denied the same education as whites, and the segregation of the societies lead to larger groups of poverty which is why you have these crime issues too. If you are denied proper education and denied jobs because of your colour, you will not have money to pay for your child's education 10 years later. Now of course many of these previously oppressed black families can send their children to college, but they don't have the money due to not being qualified themselves during the apartheid years. And with these lifestyles of poverty come the 'ghettos' wherein gang activity is common and you are often surrounded in circles where you are pushed by peer pressure to neglect studies to join gangs etc. If we want a world of non-racism, we need more than just giving blacks the ability to vote, or walk on the streets. You need to get them to the same level of social wealth as the whites. Now many will say "They can do it now, they've got all the tools at their disposal, why should we help them.. us whites never needed a hand out".. And that's great if you want them to use the same methods whites used to gain wealth (invading the country, killing off everyone else and obtaining the lands riches). So unless you want the blacks to do that, putting more money in 'project' development and less into wars and other stupid shit would be the next best option. It's easy to bitch about crime and the way the poorer live. But it's retarded to bitch about it when you're opposed to the methods of helping them achieve the same level of success. I must state that I am no pro on Americans black and white divide, but I know enough to know there is a general racism (which there may well always be), not the degree that some may need to see before they call it racism. And that there is more of a 'disgust' of the people in the projects than there is of a desire to help them. PS: And in more regards to the actual OP. That can't really be construed as racism. There's lots of racism in culture and much bigger racial issues to worry about than bad jokes. Sure, the Tea Party people are complete morons, but I personally don't find the statements made racist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Next Page 11 of 16 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
mnealtx 0 #252 February 20, 2010 QuoteI dont think the tea party is racsist as a whole but I think they have a higher percentage of them than the general population, just like many way far left leaning movements do. Then I'm sure that you can provide the timestamps where they were all booed when they came on stage, what with all those racists in the audience. Your statement also begs the question of WHY those racists would invite them in the first place. /sarcasm I'm sure there ARE some racists in the Tea Party movement, just as I'm sure there are some racists in both the Republican and Democratic parties. I don't believe that racists comprise a majority in any of them, regardless of what alternatreality.net says.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #253 February 20, 2010 Quote http://randyhaddock.com/post/397776463/response-to-olbermann-people-of-color-at-tea I stumbled across this one when I made a spelling mistake (imagine that ) Thought of the dreamer when I started seeing what is washttp://www.ez-websites.com/grudge/ by the way, I was trying to spell Drudgereport.com"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #254 February 20, 2010 QuoteI'm sure there ARE some racists in the Tea Party movement, just as I'm sure there are some racists in both the Republican and Democratic parties. these are white racists you're talking about right? QuoteTea Party movement condones racism If the Tea Party movement wanted to shake its image as the angriest bastion for the lunatic right -- with heavy emphasis on the lunatic part -- last weekend’s first-ever national convention in Nashville did not help. Tea partiers should have at least flinched when Mr. Tancredo started out by attacking President Barack Obama by invoking his middle name of Hussein – that shopworn technique of not-so-subtly suggesting some nefarious Iraqi connection. Or perhaps when he blustered that “people who could not even spell the word or say it in English put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House.” But when the Republican suggested that Mr. Obama won because the nation lacks a civics and literacy test for voters, the crowd should have been stunned and alarmed. Surely, anyone familiar with this country’s civil rights history should have been. For decades, such tests had one purpose: to prevent blacks from voting. And to make reference to them in the context of the country’s first African-American president? That’s not some slip of the tongue or a moment of political incorrectness. That’s the stuff of Klan rallies. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/2010/02/post_39.htmlstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #255 February 20, 2010 I still contend that one should have to answer a quiz about the candidates you're voting for to prove that you know the candidate's platform, and not just their name, gender or color.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #256 February 21, 2010 QuoteI still contend that one should have to answer a quiz about the candidates you're voting for to prove that you know the candidate's platform, and not just their name, gender or color. I have a better idea. How about literacy tests and poll taxes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #257 February 22, 2010 QuoteI have a better idea. How about literacy tests and poll taxes? I've got a better one than that - how about verifying they actually live in the voting district and can legally vote?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #258 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteI still contend that one should have to answer a quiz about the candidates you're voting for to prove that you know the candidate's platform, and not just their name, gender or color. I have a better idea. How about literacy tests and poll taxes? (nice knee-jerk, content-less response. btw) see, in today's world, you just have to pay attention. You don't have to be able to read, or have money in order to learn what your candidate stands for. Straight ticket voters should get a boot in the ass. That's ignorance or laziness plain and simple. Part of our problem today is people aren't invested in the choices they make. "let me vote for the woman for that office, and the black guy for that office, and the old white dude for that office... nah, I don't know what they stand for, and I won't care how they do their jobs" That's the attitude I see in a lot of todays voters. Do I think there would ever be such a quiz enacted? No. Because of the literacy test and poll taxes of the past, there will never be any obstacles to voting. Nor should there be. I just wish there were some way to make people give a shit enough to know who they're voting for. But not only do voters not give a shit about the issues, other voters (apparently you, though I could be wrong. your response didn't give much indication of anything) don't give a shit that some voters don't give a shit.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #259 February 22, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteI still contend that one should have to answer a quiz about the candidates you're voting for to prove that you know the candidate's platform, and not just their name, gender or color. I have a better idea. How about literacy tests and poll taxes? (nice knee-jerk, content-less response. btw) It's the appropriate response for any proposal to limit voting. Any solution is worse than what we have now. The good part, for your concern, is that the lazy voters tend not to show, and the really lazy don't even register. (You'll see no support for me for mandatory registration or voting as seen in many countries) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #260 February 27, 2010 QuoteRep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) is well known as a diehard opponent of abortion. He formerly served as the executive director of the Arizona branch of the Family Research Institute and has called President Obama an "enemy of humanity" because of his pro-choice stance. Franks may have gotten himself in more trouble than he anticipated, however, when he insisted to blogger and political activist Mike Stark that abortion was worse for African-Americans than slavery. "In this country we had slavery for God knows how long," Franks told Stark. "And now we look back on it and we say, 'Well how blind were they, what was the matter with them.' ... And yet today half of all black children are aborted. Half of all black children are aborted. Far more black children, far more of the African-American community, is being devastated by the policies of today than were being devastated by the policies of slavery." Stark's own comment on the interview is that "it sounds an awful lot to me like the Congressman is suggesting that blacks were better off as slaves. http://rawstory.com/2010/02/gop-rep-implies-blacks-slavery/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #261 February 27, 2010 QuoteStark's own comment on the interview is that "it sounds an awful lot to me like the Congressman is suggesting that blacks were better off as slaves. Pure, intentional misinterpretation by Stark. Not as bad as some of the trash tactics he's used in the past but still pretty low-end. Mike exists to prove that left whack jobs are as bad as right whack jobs.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #262 March 4, 2010 QuoteQuoteStark's own comment on the interview is that "it sounds an awful lot to me like the Congressman is suggesting that blacks were better off as slaves. Pure, intentional misinterpretation by Stark. Not as bad as some of the trash tactics he's used in the past but still pretty low-end. Mike exists to prove that left whack jobs are as bad as right whack jobs. sounds like the congressman is the whack job...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #263 March 4, 2010 Quote sounds like the congressman is the whack job... Not if you can mange to process without bringing your own prejudices to the table. Like Stark, you're going to hear what you want to hear.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #264 March 4, 2010 Quote Quote sounds like the congressman is the whack job... Not if you can mange to process without bringing your own prejudices to the table. Like Stark, you're going to hear what you want to hear. no, sounds like the congressman is slightly unhinged. it's like saying jews were better off under hitler than they are now in israel stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #265 March 4, 2010 Quote Quote Quote sounds like the congressman is the whack job... Not if you can mange to process without bringing your own prejudices to the table. Like Stark, you're going to hear what you want to hear. no, sounds like the congressman is slightly unhinged. it's like saying jews were better off under hitler than they are now in israel without bringing your own prejudicesYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #266 March 4, 2010 so what was he trying to say?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #267 March 5, 2010 Quoteso what was he trying to say? That when we look back we'll see the abortion trend as a detriment to the negroid race in North America. I don't expect to change your mind, though. I doubt that you can unhitch your personal baggage from the cart.You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #268 March 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteso what was he trying to say? That when we look back we'll see the abortion trend as a detriment to the negroid race in North America. I don't expect to change your mind, though. I doubt that you can unhitch your personal baggage from the cart. negroid eh? (personal baggage you say - is this congressman white?)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #269 March 5, 2010 Just because YOU are all ate up with white guilt, doesn't mean any of the rest of us have cause to be.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #270 March 5, 2010 i know you don't like the racist facts stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #271 March 5, 2010 Quote i know you don't like the racist facts When you actually PRESENT some facts (instead of the hallucinogen-inspired rantings from alternatereality.net), let me know and I'll take a look at them.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #272 March 5, 2010 in denial eh? (that the us is d/riven with racism)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #273 March 5, 2010 Quotein denial eh? (that the us is d/riven with racism) Not in denial at all, thanks. There's plenty of racism occurring in the States - you're just mistaken as to the source, as shown in your OP.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #274 March 5, 2010 where is the racism then mnealtx? (waits for usual stupid thetorical response that doesn't actually answer the question)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #275 March 5, 2010 The whole racism card sucks. On one hand you have those who claim anything and everything is out of racial prejudice, and like to blame racism for their short-comings. Then you have those who think the only way to be racist is to kick a black dudes teeth out. Or call him a 'nigger'. I too live in South Africa so I'm well aware of both sides. Society as a whole is racist, whether one likes to admit it or not. In South Africa however you have the effects of Apartheid, and while I don't believe anything is a justifiable excuse for racism, many blacks in the country feel as though they were invaded, imprisoned and segregated- which is true. So now they feel as though they are owed something for being put down for all those years. And it's easy for a white person to say "They mustn't keep referring to apartheid" but if the roles were reversed and it was the whites who were oppressed, we'd be doing exactly the same thing. All in all through the years whites have looked down on blacks as a whole. You see a poor black guy and it's "Wow, typical bum...he should get a job", but as soon as you see that black guy driving a BMW it's "He probably stole that" or "I bet he got his job through AA". There is a constant idea that blacks will never be successful unless they are cheating their way there. It's either that or one gets jealous of the rich black guy driving the expensive car, thinking he doesn't deserve it. And you can deny these things but the reality is happens, not in everyone's minds, but in plenty who claim not to be racist. But I'm not going to stop with what the whites do wrong, then in South Africa you have the blacks who believe the white man mustn't run anything in the country because seeing a white man as a CEO is racist too! And that only companies which employ black leaders are not racist, despite qualifications- These people are also morons. Using race to gain positions they are not qualified for. It's no secret that people hire underqualified workers because they need that colour in their staff. Now you may ask why these black citizens are under qualified. That IS thanks to apartheid, as much as the whites may try to dismiss it, apartheid fucked the country up badly. Blacks were denied the same education as whites, and the segregation of the societies lead to larger groups of poverty which is why you have these crime issues too. If you are denied proper education and denied jobs because of your colour, you will not have money to pay for your child's education 10 years later. Now of course many of these previously oppressed black families can send their children to college, but they don't have the money due to not being qualified themselves during the apartheid years. And with these lifestyles of poverty come the 'ghettos' wherein gang activity is common and you are often surrounded in circles where you are pushed by peer pressure to neglect studies to join gangs etc. If we want a world of non-racism, we need more than just giving blacks the ability to vote, or walk on the streets. You need to get them to the same level of social wealth as the whites. Now many will say "They can do it now, they've got all the tools at their disposal, why should we help them.. us whites never needed a hand out".. And that's great if you want them to use the same methods whites used to gain wealth (invading the country, killing off everyone else and obtaining the lands riches). So unless you want the blacks to do that, putting more money in 'project' development and less into wars and other stupid shit would be the next best option. It's easy to bitch about crime and the way the poorer live. But it's retarded to bitch about it when you're opposed to the methods of helping them achieve the same level of success. I must state that I am no pro on Americans black and white divide, but I know enough to know there is a general racism (which there may well always be), not the degree that some may need to see before they call it racism. And that there is more of a 'disgust' of the people in the projects than there is of a desire to help them. PS: And in more regards to the actual OP. That can't really be construed as racism. There's lots of racism in culture and much bigger racial issues to worry about than bad jokes. Sure, the Tea Party people are complete morons, but I personally don't find the statements made racist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites