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Visiting London this year? Leave your video at home

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If you're visiting London this summer you might seriously think about leaving your video camera at home (especially if you're a bit on the dark side)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2009/dec/15/police-terrorism

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Here's the related article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/15/italian-student-police-arrest-filming

As an American, I dislike the Patriot Act, but these things bring home that there are even more compromises of civil liberties in the UK (and other W. European nations) than one might think would exist in a Western democracy.

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What business does a PCSO (who's job is basically limited to slapping down hoody wearing yobbos) have questioning anyone about possible terrorist activity?

Powertripping arsehole, and he had the cheek to say that he was the one trying to be polite!
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Here's the related article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/15/italian-student-police-arrest-filming

As an American, I dislike the Patriot Act, but these things bring home that there are even more compromises of civil liberties in the UK (and other W. European nations) than one might think would exist in a Western democracy.







Controversial anti-terror laws which let police stop and search without grounds for suspicion were yesterday ruled illegal by European judges.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242603/Police-stop-search-powers-declared-illegal-court-blow-terror-fight.html#ixzz0eGuB4Ebo


Yet again the British government still thinks it's a law unto it's self.

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As an American, I dislike the Patriot Act, but these things bring home that there are even more compromises of civil liberties in the UK (and other W. European nations) than one might think would exist in a Western democracy.



I think it's a case to show how much care needs to be taken when giving new powers to the Police, because if they have it, they will use it.

The original intent of section 44 was for senior police officers to temporarily authorise greater search powers in areas that are believed to be under threat - almost immediately it turned pretty much the whole of Greater London and some other metropolitan areas into permanent no-questions-asked stop and search zones.

Now it's got to the stage where even the senior officers who created those zones are trying to get their beat cops to tone down the extravagant use of the powers that they have authorised!


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I think it's a case to show how much care needs to be taken when giving new powers to the Police, because if they have it, they will use it.

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Yep

PC Shiny Buttons from Scotland is making sure the UK's dangerous driving and anti-litter laws are applied..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246662/Stunned-driver-fined-blowing-nose-Michael-Mancini-faces-trial.html

So if any visitors were thinking of dropping money, laughing when driving, blowing their nose when effecitvely parked, or eating in their car, they had better take lots of spare cash to pay fines.


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So it seems like the UK is often at the forefront in these photographer/videographer/anti terror craziness. But most of the confrontations seem to be single event type. Are they representative?

In May I roamed along the river, sometimes at night, sometimes with a tripod, taking pictures of a lot of structures and no one gave me a glance. I remember reviewing someone's notes on what was kosher or not in London, but was working so much up till (and during) the trip that I completely forgot about it.

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How come you're always bashing Brits?



Because you're such an inspiring leader John



Or is it just because the crazy Big-Brother anti-individualism stories so often seem to originate
with the British government? Why is that?



Because you spend a lot of time looking for them in British news sources?
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Or is it just because the crazy Big-Brother anti-individualism stories so often seem to originate
with the British government? Why is that?



Because you spend a lot of time looking for them in British news sources?



I don't go looking for them. They just pop up in regular American news sources. It would seem that the
British government is the source of much of world's lunatic nanny-state ideas.

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Or is it just because the crazy Big-Brother anti-individualism stories so often seem to originate
with the British government? Why is that?



Because you spend a lot of time looking for them in British news sources?



I don't go looking for them. They just pop up in regular American news sources. It would seem that the
British government is the source of much of world's lunatic nanny-state ideas.



You're from the great state of Texas and we're all just jealous, you must be right.. and if you're not right...well you have a gun and that makes you a big man and right anyway.

You're like the closet homosexual who goes out screaming "faggots must die!" as you struggle with your own identity.

It's ok to admit you want to be British, chin up buttercup.
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People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

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Or is it just because the crazy Big-Brother anti-individualism stories so often seem to originate
with the British government? Why is that?



Because you spend a lot of time looking for them in British news sources?


I don't go looking for them. They just pop up in regular American news sources. It would seem that the
British government is the source of much of world's lunatic nanny-state ideas.


You're from the great state of Texas and we're all just jealous, you must be right.. and if you're not right...well you have a gun and that makes you a big man and right anyway.

You're like the closet homosexual who goes out screaming "faggots must die!" as you struggle with your own identity.

It's ok to admit you want to be British, chin up buttercup.


I think going back to a thread on geneology a couple years ago.. that both John and I can take great solace that our ancestors managed to escape from there a couple hundred or so years ago.:ph34r::ph34r:

The royals in those days had a bad habit of murdering quite a few of their own relatives...and some of them managed to get away from them:D:D

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Or is it just because the crazy Big-Brother anti-individualism stories so often seem to originate
with the British government? Why is that?



Because you spend a lot of time looking for them in British news sources?


I don't go looking for them. They just pop up in regular American news sources. It would seem that the
British government is the source of much of world's lunatic nanny-state ideas.


You're from the great state of Texas and we're all just jealous, you must be right.. and if you're not right...well you have a gun and that makes you a big man and right anyway.

You're like the closet homosexual who goes out screaming "faggots must die!" as you struggle with your own identity.

It's ok to admit you want to be British, chin up buttercup.


I think going back to a thread on geneology a couple years ago.. that both John and I can take great solace that our ancestors managed to escape from there a couple hundred or so years ago.:ph34r::ph34r:

The royals in those days had a bad habit of murdering quite a few of their own relatives...and some of them managed to get away from them:D:D


Apparently our father, the Lord God, has been smiting his family for years; but Americans can't get enough of him :D
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People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

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News:
Labour invents 33 new crimes every month

Labour has introduced 14,300 new offences since taking office in 1997, with Gordon Brown's
administration inventing crimes at a rate of more than one a day.

Thanks to Labour, it is now illegal to swim in the wreck of the Titanic or to sell game birds killed on a
Sunday or Christmas Day – eventualities overlooked by previous governments.

Labour has made 4,289 activities illegal since the 1997 election, at a rate of about one a day – twice the
speed with which the previous Conservative government created crimes.

Gordon Brown was the worst offender, with his government inventing 33 new crimes a month. Tony Blair's
administration made 27 new offences each month.

Some of the more inventive crimes dreamt up by Labour include "disturbing a pack of eggs when directed
not to by an authorised officer"...
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/7050044/Labour-invents-33-new-crimes-every-month.html

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