I suppose this is Bush's fault too?

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We didn't need B1Bs during the Reagan administration or later, or the $billions wasted on Star Wars.

From a person who worked that program, me, it was/is a piece of shit. FR used it to try to bring the economy around, but as with all gov welfare, most ends up in the pockets of teh rich, the poor wait for a trickle down.

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We piss away $trillions on the military when we could spend 1/3 as much and still be #1 by far.

I've said that forever.

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There is a lot of things mentioned, and I assume you do not object to all of them (like having veterans programs exempted from the cuts). What exactly you are objecting to?

The spending total

The spending total consists of all things mentioned (which include having veterans programs exempted from the cuts). Are you objecting to _all_ expenses (and therefore suggest cuts for veteran programs to lower the spending), or only to some specific cases?

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CUT THE DAMNED SPENDING AND GIVE AWAY PROGRAMS!!!!!

I wonder if you contacted your elected representatives asking them to refuse any money going to Iowa? If all Republican states would do so, it'd go huge way to cut spending! Put your money where you mouth is.

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I dont care who is in office. This shit can NOT be sustained!!!

There is a lot of things mentioned, and I assume you do not object to all of them (like having veterans programs exempted from the cuts). What exactly you are objecting to?

Proposing spending increases just after his pledged freeze is pretty objectionable. And personally, I don't see any reason to exempt the defense spending from a freeze, or better yet, a cut.

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Proposing spending increases just after his pledged freeze is pretty objectionable. And personally, I don't see any reason to exempt the defense spending from a freeze, or better yet, a cut.

The healthcare debate taught me that some people here are very good in criticizing everything others do, but at the same time cannot propose anything reasonable themselves. Hence was my question.

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CUT THE DAMNED SPENDING AND GIVE AWAY PROGRAMS!!!!!

I wonder if you contacted your elected representatives asking them to refuse any money going to Iowa? If all Republican states would do so, it'd go huge way to cut spending! Put your money where you mouth is.

Oh, that would never happen. The government's too busy wasting farm subsidies on Iowa, the nation's largest corn producer, so Iowa can continue, for decades, over-producing corn, so that it can keep pumping high fructose corn syrup into American diets and make Americans ever-increasingly obese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fructose_corn_syrup#Health_effects

The obesity epidemic isn't caused by over-eating or sedentary lifestyles. It's caused by high fructose corn syrup. And that means it's caused by Iowa. Iowa is killing people, and we just stand by and let it happen. Well, I'm taking a stand.

Iowa: death merchant of America. MUUHAHAHAHAAA!

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The obesity epidemic isn't caused by over-eating or sedentary lifestyles. It's caused by high fructose corn syrup. And that means it's caused by Iowa. Iowa is killing people, and we just stand by and let it happen. Well, I'm taking a stand.

Iowa: death merchant of America. MUUHAHAHAHAAA!

no, obesity is caused by people eating way more calories than they burn. Mostly lazy people living in a pushbutton world. HCFS, console video games, helicopter parents, all just make it worse, but don't go letting fat and lazy people off easy. They're fat and lazy. They have the power to change that.
1. Get up off your fat ass and walk.
2. Figure out what your base metabolic rate is.
3. Eat 100 calories a day less than that.
4. Do it in 5 meals spread throughout the waking hours.
5. Drink water. Your body needs that shit.

That's the simple version. Beyond that, some basic research into healthy content for number 3 will help.

(edit: just realized that might be sarcasm. clearly I totally missed it if it was)

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I think if you individually research out:
-Iowa production of corn
-Federal subsidies for Iowa production of corn
-history of high-fructose corn syrup
-health effects of high-fructose corn syrup
-multiple causes of increasing American obesity since 1970; and
-death merchants (I suppose) ...

...you'll understand which parts are the kernel of truth, and which parts are parody.

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I think if you individually research out:
-Iowa production of corn
-Federal subsidies for Iowa production of corn
-history of high-fructose corn syrup
-health effects of high-fructose corn syrup
-multiple causes of increasing American obesity since 1970; and
-death merchants (I suppose) ...

...you'll understand which parts are the kernel of truth, and which parts are parody.

Not to mention the corn being used to feed cattle, red meat litterally burning our assholes out. Red meat can be traced to all kinds of health issues, nit just colon cancer, so corn would be a part of that. Jebus H fucking Christ, our load and savior (unless you believe that silly evolution idea) didn't mean for cows to eat corn, or for homo sapien to eat cows, so that mutation of diets creates all kinds of physiological BS.

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I think my style of comedy is too obscure for the rest of you unwashed masses.

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I think if you individually research out:
-Iowa production of corn
-Federal subsidies for Iowa production of corn
-history of high-fructose corn syrup
-health effects of high-fructose corn syrup
-multiple causes of increasing American obesity since 1970; and
-death merchants (I suppose) ...

...you'll understand which parts are the kernel of truth, and which parts are parody.

yes yes... I understand the whole corn production subsidies crap. I grew up in the mid-west and experienced the program's genesis through friends who had farms.

I understand the health effects of HFCS and its history. It has this horrible side effect of making you feel hungry. Other simple sugars just make you crave more simple sugars. But when you're full, you're full.

None of the above counter that these people don't get up off their asses and do anything about their weight. Nor does any of that change the caloric content of a single food item as it is consumed.

We're really talking simple math here plus motivation to do something besides bitch about one's condition.

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I understand the health effects of HFCS and its history. It has this horrible side effect of making you feel hungry. Other simple sugars just make you crave more simple sugars. But when you're full, you're full.

It also tastes weird. Virtually everyone I talked to from recent European immigrants also said that. It is hard to explain how "too sweet" should feel, but that's the way we explain it.

We only buy sweets from Trader Joe (where they use sugar instead).

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>It's caused by high fructose corn syrup.

Don't you be dissing on HFCS. Bottle conditioning just wouldn't be the same without it.

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"It's that spending you so decry that's given our troops the weapons, comms and other gear that makes them so effective"

????

I don’t know about effectiveness… Osama still has not been captured; Al Qaeda and Taliban are still very strong. Who or what gives them the budget to stand against the US/NATO for more than 9 years effectively??? The US spent more money than never before in the last 9 years on 2 wars. On wars they really achieved nothing so far!!! Unfortunately these are facts.
I never heard from history that any country through out the centuries went bankrupt because of their spending on “non-war related” projects. But many empires and countries went bankrupt or totally fell apart because of their military (defense if you will) spending.
If all those spending were effective the wars should have ended a long time ago!
…they shouldn’t have really started at the first place.

Ultimately someone (more like some ones) collects all that money we spend on wars.
So that means those who collected the military spending of the US ($3 Trillion in the last 9 yrs) got very rich. That is effectiveness for those few for sure!!!