Who keeps electing these assholes?

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[LongWayToFall 0]

What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

[StreetScooby 5]

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We are all engines of karma

[wayneflorida 0]

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I can see his point.
Now for my point. Sen. Alan Lowenthal cannot travel in an automobile. He can only use public transportation or walk. He must stand up and
be out front to save the world.

[rushmc 23]

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,158]

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

Have you suddenly become a Socialist? "Free" parking is no different from "Free" healthcare or "Free" education.

It's a subsidy to motorists, and if it's provided by the city or county, it's paid for by taxpayers.

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Who keeps electing these assholes?

I love this question, and while it is self evident, it is also impossible to answer because stories like this defy any real common sense.

In areas where it is state land (without federal support) being used for parking, I don't see a big deal for them to charge parking. A marginal amount to help stem the financial bleeding is a short term solution that would work provided the state can actually cut or freeze its spending.

Where it is not state land however, Sacramento needs to just keep its nose out of it.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[lawrocket 3]

Here's how it works:

(1) Eliminate the paved paradise. What do you think is going to happen to these parking lots? Think they'll be turned into parks?

Think again. It expands into more retail space. "But lawrocket? Why would they want more retail space?" Because that results in increased sales tax revenues.

(2) Put people on buses. why are buses and bicycles such good things? Because bicycles do not contribute to road wear and because buses are government-run. More bus ridership equals more revenue.


It's all about increasing revenue and decreasing government services. Of course, "the environment" is the way to do it. Grocery shopping? A ten minute trip to get some milk should now take 30 minutes because of bus times.

I can really see "no parking" at hospitals. They need to make money from ambulances. Anyone caught parking at a hospital will be ticketed $980.

Unions, of course, will ensure that their folks get free parking - for a small fee.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[lawrocket 3]

That's right. Business owners pay a higher lease payment for parking access. There are numerous stories of failed businesses right here in downtown Fresno. Fresno's solution? Free parking.

Yes, the parking situation prevents people from shopping and dining there. People will pay for convenience. They will not pay the government for the convenience. It's been shown time and again.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[rushmc 23]

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

Have you suddenly become a Socialist? "Free" parking is no different from "Free" healthcare or "Free" education.

It's a subsidy to motorists, and if it's provided by the city or county, it's paid for by taxpayers.

Your post ignores the context of the OP. But I am not surprised by your "over looking" that tiny piece of info

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,158]

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

Have you suddenly become a Socialist? "Free" parking is no different from "Free" healthcare or "Free" education.

It's a subsidy to motorists, and if it's provided by the city or county, it's paid for by taxpayers.

Your post ignores the context of the OP. But I am not surprised by your "over looking" that tiny piece of info

So you ARE a Socialist when it suits you. OK, nice to know that.

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[Andrewwhyte 1]

My lord that is a piss poor article. It doesn't say what the remedy will consist of. You could hire an assassin to kill people randomly in the free parking slots, you could hire a guy in a mascot in an animal costume to hand out flyers to people encouraging them to use their bikes. Which is it?
As far as the state minding the cities' business aren't cities creatures of state legislation? If cities want money from the state and the state says "fuck you, collect it from the parkers," that seems like fair play.

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Who keeps electing these assholes?

Your fellow countrymen, perhaps? Just a wild guess

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[rushmc 23]

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

Have you suddenly become a Socialist? "Free" parking is no different from "Free" healthcare or "Free" education.

It's a subsidy to motorists, and if it's provided by the city or county, it's paid for by taxpayers.

Your post ignores the context of the OP. But I am not surprised by your "over looking" that tiny piece of info

So you ARE a Socialist when it suits you. OK, nice to know that.

Come on baby
lets do the twist
come on baaaabbbbbyyyyy
lets do the twist

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,158]

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

Have you suddenly become a Socialist? "Free" parking is no different from "Free" healthcare or "Free" education.

It's a subsidy to motorists, and if it's provided by the city or county, it's paid for by taxpayers.

Your post ignores the context of the OP. But I am not surprised by your "over looking" that tiny piece of info

So you ARE a Socialist when it suits you. OK, nice to know that.

Come on baby
lets do the twist
come on baaaabbbbbyyyyy
lets do the twist

No sensible rebuttal, eh?

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[rushmc 23]

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

Have you suddenly become a Socialist? "Free" parking is no different from "Free" healthcare or "Free" education.

It's a subsidy to motorists, and if it's provided by the city or county, it's paid for by taxpayers.

Your post ignores the context of the OP. But I am not surprised by your "over looking" that tiny piece of info

So you ARE a Socialist when it suits you. OK, nice to know that.

Come on baby
lets do the twist
come on baaaabbbbbyyyyy
lets do the twist

No sensible rebuttal, eh?

let bull shit beget bull shit my friend

You got the response you asked for. Nothing more, nothing less

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kelpdiver 2]

The farce in all of this is that the bus/mass transit systems across the state are reducing service and increase fares and cannot even meet the current demands well. It isn't actually possible for people to get their transportation needs met by these services.

As it is, the cars fund a considerable chunk of muni, more so than the collected fares do. In SF, parking tickets and meter collection and residential parking stickers are far more significant than the 50% of us who actually pay our fare (rather than come in on the back door). In Marin, the long standing $6 toll for the Golden Gate Bridge isn't maintaining the bridge, it's paying for buses and ferries.

One genius action in SF this year was increasing the meter rate for motorcyclists downtown from 25cents/hr to 70cents. End result is it's over $6/day to park, or effectively $48/car space. Garage parking tends to be ~300/month. End result - half the spots are now empty and those people are back to their cars or using the overfilled bus system. Revenue gain is minimal, and the overall system is definitely worse off. SF already is uncompetitive for retail sales because of the difficulty in parking. People will adopt in ways that will not improve the overall picture.

It reminds me of the dependence of the local governments on cigarette taxes for their pet projects. If it actually works to discourage smoking (or driving), then that well of money gets even lower and so they have to continuously increase the taxation.

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

Have you suddenly become a Socialist? "Free" parking is no different from "Free" healthcare or "Free" education.

It's a subsidy to motorists, and if it's provided by the city or county, it's paid for by taxpayers.

Your post ignores the context of the OP. But I am not surprised by your "over looking" that tiny piece of info

So you ARE a Socialist when it suits you. OK, nice to know that.

Come on baby
lets do the twist
come on baaaabbbbbyyyyy
lets do the twist

No sensible rebuttal, eh?

let bull shit beget bull shit my friend

You got the response you asked for. Nothing more, nothing less

Typical of conservatives. Want the freebies when it benefits them, but oppose government spending for others, and when caught out resort to profanities.

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

Have you suddenly become a Socialist? "Free" parking is no different from "Free" healthcare or "Free" education.

It's a subsidy to motorists, and if it's provided by the city or county, it's paid for by taxpayers.

Your post ignores the context of the OP. But I am not surprised by your "over looking" that tiny piece of info

So you ARE a Socialist when it suits you. OK, nice to know that.

Come on baby
lets do the twist
come on baaaabbbbbyyyyy
lets do the twist

No sensible rebuttal, eh?

let bull shit beget bull shit my friend

You got the response you asked for. Nothing more, nothing less

Typical of conservatives. Want the freebies when it benefits them, but oppose government spending for others, and when caught out resort to profanities.

Yep, I said all should be freebies

And then I said I oppose gov spending for others

And then I get caught where??

You are a funny thinkin dude this fine Saturday prof

Now, go fail someone who political leanings piss you off

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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What the FUCK. Leave it up to the damn cities to decide if they want to charge parking.
"Free parking isn't free"
Hey you are the dickhead who decided to build that movie theatre right in the middle of an already congested downtown, and shut down the movie theatre a mile away that had tons of area to park, not to mention it had 3 times the number of screens. The Sierra Club is backing it too, huh? I saw a guy with a "Sierra Club Sucks" bumper sticker on the back of his dirt bike trainer, I have to say it seems quite fitting.

And what people need to realize is that this kind of attitude is no different than that of the HC debate. Simply a mechanism to try and push the life style choices of some on others under the guise of saving the planet of "giving" everyone health care

Have you suddenly become a Socialist? "Free" parking is no different from "Free" healthcare or "Free" education.

It's a subsidy to motorists, and if it's provided by the city or county, it's paid for by taxpayers.

Your post ignores the context of the OP. But I am not surprised by your "over looking" that tiny piece of info

So you ARE a Socialist when it suits you. OK, nice to know that.

Just like RWers who are collecting soc security and Medicare/Medicaid while they disavow socialism; country is full of that brilliance.

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Now, go fail someone who political leanings piss you off

Now you're accusing him of grading bias? WOW - you truely have stooped to the depths.

[rushmc 23]

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Now, go fail someone who political leanings piss you off

Now you're accusing him of grading bias? WOW - you truely have stooped to the depths.

So he can twist and screw with people here but nobody else is supposed to answer him

YOU are funny oh (self proclaimed) arbiter of Speakers Corner!



Dont like the heat? Dont start the fire

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,158]

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Now, go fail someone who political leanings piss you off

Now you're accusing him of grading bias? WOW - you truely have stooped to the depths.

So he can twist and screw with people here but nobody else is supposed to answer him

YOU are funny oh (self proclaimed) arbiter of Speakers Corner!



Dont like the heat? Dont start the fire

I didn't have to twist anything. Your own words from your own keyboard revealed the true you.

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Now, go fail someone who political leanings piss you off

Now you're accusing him of grading bias? WOW - you truely have stooped to the depths.

So he can twist and screw with people here but nobody else is supposed to answer him

YOU are funny oh (self proclaimed) arbiter of Speakers Corner!



Dont like the heat? Dont start the fire

Wait, are you unable to stick with one issue? You wrote: Now, go fail someone who political leanings piss you off

You were referring to his students, now you're referring to people here. You accused a professor, I assume a tenured professor or grading bias, that's defamation.

[champu 1]

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Just like RWers who are collecting soc security and Medicare/Medicaid while they disavow socialism; country is full of that brilliance.

There's a difference between preferring to collect 78 cents over 0 cents on your dollar (CY$ mind you) at retirement and being an advocate of a pyramid scheme that is doomed to failure. I would happily overlook my sunk costs in social security if the program was halted outright tomorrow. I make no further payments, and I never see a dime of the money I've paid in over the last decade. I'm completely fine with that, I'll still come out way ahead.