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I'll make "Shit Happens" allowances but this was bad stupid
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billvon 3,090
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>I had to work for my food why shouldn't the kids and adults getting
>a part of my tax dollars?
Adults - agreed. Let them work for their food.
Kids - disagreed. Do whatever it takes to educate them well. If that means heating the school, then pay for heat. If that means buying them desks, then buy them desks. If that means providing lunch, then do that.
>This is one of the problems with liberals is that they teach people how to
>collect a free dinner but not how to work for their dinner, this in turn
>teaches how to get a free ride through life.
As accurate as claiming the conservative value here is "I got mine, fuck the country's future."
>a part of my tax dollars?
Adults - agreed. Let them work for their food.
Kids - disagreed. Do whatever it takes to educate them well. If that means heating the school, then pay for heat. If that means buying them desks, then buy them desks. If that means providing lunch, then do that.
>This is one of the problems with liberals is that they teach people how to
>collect a free dinner but not how to work for their dinner, this in turn
>teaches how to get a free ride through life.
As accurate as claiming the conservative value here is "I got mine, fuck the country's future."
Quote>I had to work for my food why shouldn't the kids and adults getting
>a part of my tax dollars?
Adults - agreed. Let them work for their food.
Kids - disagreed. Do whatever it takes to educate them well. If that means heating the school, then pay for heat. If that means buying them desks, then buy them desks. If that means providing lunch, then do that.
>This is one of the problems with liberals is that they teach people how to
>collect a free dinner but not how to work for their dinner, this in turn
>teaches how to get a free ride through life.
As accurate as claiming the conservative value here is "I got mine, fuck the country's future."
I have been working and paying for things since I was old enough to push a lawn mower or shovel snow or deliver papers. there should never be a free ride for anyone at any time. even doing chores at your house should start after you can walk and talk. Giving things away only promotes an entitlement attitude and that is what has been taught to our children. Sorry Bill, this time you are wrong.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThis is one of the problems with liberals is that they teach people how to collect a free dinner but not how to work for their dinner, this in turn teaches how to get a free ride through life.
Wait, wait, wait . . . doesn't the Lord's prayer specifically say "GIVE US this day our daily bread"?
Wasn't it Jesus that fed the 5,000?
Didn't someone say "give someone a fish and he will eat today - teach someone how to fish and he'll feed himself for life" I like to live in real life not in a book that may or may not be fiction.
Does that include them buying the fishing license that they can't afford too and waiting for the right season.. or are you suggesting they break the laws in all of the states
not for kids, no license needed to fish under 15
billvon 3,090
>I have been working and paying for things since I was old enough
>to push a lawn mower or shovel snow or deliver papers.
Me too. (Although I suspect someone else paid for your education.)
>there should never be a free ride for anyone at any time.
Did you go to a public school?
>to push a lawn mower or shovel snow or deliver papers.
Me too. (Although I suspect someone else paid for your education.)
>there should never be a free ride for anyone at any time.
Did you go to a public school?
Amazon 7
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThis is one of the problems with liberals is that they teach people how to collect a free dinner but not how to work for their dinner, this in turn teaches how to get a free ride through life.
Wait, wait, wait . . . doesn't the Lord's prayer specifically say "GIVE US this day our daily bread"?
Wasn't it Jesus that fed the 5,000?
Didn't someone say "give someone a fish and he will eat today - teach someone how to fish and he'll feed himself for life" I like to live in real life not in a book that may or may not be fiction.
Does that include them buying the fishing license that they can't afford too and waiting for the right season.. or are you suggesting they break the laws in all of the states
not for kids, no license needed to fish under 15
Depends on the state
Depends on the species
Depends on the size
Depends a LOT on the seasons
Depends a lot on the limits..
That makes for a whole lot for a 5 year old to learn.
Perhaps feeding them for a yew years might be in order..
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThis is one of the problems with liberals is that they teach people how to collect a free dinner but not how to work for their dinner, this in turn teaches how to get a free ride through life.
Wait, wait, wait . . . doesn't the Lord's prayer specifically say "GIVE US this day our daily bread"?
Wasn't it Jesus that fed the 5,000?
Didn't someone say "give someone a fish and he will eat today - teach someone how to fish and he'll feed himself for life" I like to live in real life not in a book that may or may not be fiction.
Does that include them buying the fishing license that they can't afford too and waiting for the right season.. or are you suggesting they break the laws in all of the states
not for kids, no license needed to fish under 15
Depends on the state
Depends on the species
Depends on the size
Depends a LOT on the seasons
Depends a lot on the limits..
That makes for a whole lot for a 5 year old to learn.
Perhaps feeding them for a yew years might be in order..
no, perhaps teaching them to feed themselves might be in order
yes and I worked in the lunch room to pay for my lunches in 1st and 2nd grades and in 5th and 6th grades I worked the cross walks in morning and after school to pay for lunchesQuote>I have been working and paying for things since I was old enough
>to push a lawn mower or shovel snow or deliver papers.
Me too. (Although I suspect someone else paid for your education.)
>there should never be a free ride for anyone at any time.
Did you go to a public school?
billvon 3,090
>>Did you go to a public school?
>yes . . .
So you got a free ride on your education. Good for you. Let's hope other kids enjoy the same free ride.
>yes . . .
So you got a free ride on your education. Good for you. Let's hope other kids enjoy the same free ride.
Quote>>Did you go to a public school?
>yes . . .
So you got a free ride on your education. Good for you. Let's hope other kids enjoy the same free ride.
wrong again Bill, I did the chores at my house and that contributed to the house that paid the taxes that paid for my school. maybe I didn't hand the school cash but I did contribute to pay for my education. I pay taxes now that contributes to many kid's education and they will do the same, but that does not mean they shouldn't work in some way to contribute to that education.
billvon 3,090
>wrong again Bill, I did the chores at my house . . .
If you think that household chores paid for your education, then you're off by several orders of magnitude.
> maybe I didn't hand the school cash but I did contribute to pay for
> my education.
That's great! It made you feel good about yourself while other people paid for your education, which gave you the background to be a more productive citizen.
If you think that household chores paid for your education, then you're off by several orders of magnitude.
> maybe I didn't hand the school cash but I did contribute to pay for
> my education.
That's great! It made you feel good about yourself while other people paid for your education, which gave you the background to be a more productive citizen.
Bolas 5
Quote>wrong again Bill, I did the chores at my house . . .
If you think that household chores paid for your education, then you're off by several orders of magnitude.
> maybe I didn't hand the school cash but I did contribute to pay for
> my education.
That's great! It made you feel good about yourself while other people paid for your education, which gave you the background to be a more productive citizen.
I don't think he's trying to say that every dime spent has to be paid back in full, but more to teach these kids that in order to get something beyond what the others are getting (free lunch, etc.) you have to give something else.
A child is not going to understand nor needs to understand the costs associated vs. the limited tasks back they provide, but they will hopefully learn the concept of providing for ones self. Maybe they can teach that to their parents.
If a parent doesn't like this, they can start paying for the kids lunch.
Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
Amazon 7
QuoteQuote>wrong again Bill, I did the chores at my house . . .
If you think that household chores paid for your education, then you're off by several orders of magnitude.
> maybe I didn't hand the school cash but I did contribute to pay for
> my education.
That's great! It made you feel good about yourself while other people paid for your education, which gave you the background to be a more productive citizen.
I don't think he's trying to say that every dime spent has to be paid back in full, but more to teach these kids that in order to get something beyond what the others are getting (free lunch, etc.) you have to give something else.
A child is not going to understand nor needs to understand the costs associated vs. the limited tasks back they provide, but they will hopefully learn the concept of providing for ones self. Maybe they can teach that to their parents.
If a parent doesn't like this, they can start paying for the kids lunch.
That sure sounds like some commie claptrap........you a commie there son?????
Bolas 5
QuoteQuoteQuote>wrong again Bill, I did the chores at my house . . .
If you think that household chores paid for your education, then you're off by several orders of magnitude.
> maybe I didn't hand the school cash but I did contribute to pay for
> my education.
That's great! It made you feel good about yourself while other people paid for your education, which gave you the background to be a more productive citizen.
I don't think he's trying to say that every dime spent has to be paid back in full, but more to teach these kids that in order to get something beyond what the others are getting (free lunch, etc.) you have to give something else.
A child is not going to understand nor needs to understand the costs associated vs. the limited tasks back they provide, but they will hopefully learn the concept of providing for ones self. Maybe they can teach that to their parents.
If a parent doesn't like this, they can start paying for the kids lunch.
That sure sounds like some commie claptrap........you a commie there son?????
Yes, a capitalist communist that believes in small government.
Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
Quote>wrong again Bill, I did the chores at my house . . .
If you think that household chores paid for your education, then you're off by several orders of magnitude.
> maybe I didn't hand the school cash but I did contribute to pay for
> my education.
That's great! It made you feel good about yourself while other people paid for your education, which gave you the background to be a more productive citizen.
you are missing the point, it is not that you paid 100% but that you contributed to it. maybe the actual cost you contribute when young is very small, but you did contribute, and as you get older your contribution gets larger until you are taking care of yourself and then are helping someone else to do the same. I see to many kids nowdays that haven't learned anything about taking care of their responsibilities until they are out of college. their contribution to their own welfare was zero until that point now they are overwelmed buy having to do it all at once. they have no work ethic, ability, or desire to work for their own prosperity.
We have less and less people to pay for more and more people because of attitudes like yours. Not saying your attitude is not nobel, but it does breed lazyness and entitlement attitudes from the children and harms them and us in the future.
Bolas 5
QuoteQuote>wrong again Bill, I did the chores at my house . . .
If you think that household chores paid for your education, then you're off by several orders of magnitude.
> maybe I didn't hand the school cash but I did contribute to pay for
> my education.
That's great! It made you feel good about yourself while other people paid for your education, which gave you the background to be a more productive citizen.
you are missing the point, it is not that you paid 100% but that you contributed to it. maybe the actual cost you contribute when young is very small, but you did contribute, and as you get older your contribution gets larger until you are taking care of yourself and then are helping someone else to do the same. I see to many kids nowdays that haven't learned anything about taking care of their responsibilities until they are out of college. their contribution to their own welfare was zero until that point now they are overwelmed buy having to do it all at once. they have no work ethic, ability, or desire to work for their own prosperity.
We have less and less people to pay for more and more people because of attitudes like yours. Not saying your attitude is not nobel, but it does breed lazyness and entitlement attitudes from the children and harms them and us in the future.
Exactly. Even if a portion of the current generations are lost causes to this concept it doesn't mean the current generations children have to be.
They're gonna need all the work ethic and self sufficiency they can get to pay for all the debt we've accumulated...
Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.
Amazon 7
QuoteQuoteQuote>wrong again Bill, I did the chores at my house . . .
If you think that household chores paid for your education, then you're off by several orders of magnitude.
> maybe I didn't hand the school cash but I did contribute to pay for
> my education.
That's great! It made you feel good about yourself while other people paid for your education, which gave you the background to be a more productive citizen.
you are missing the point, it is not that you paid 100% but that you contributed to it. maybe the actual cost you contribute when young is very small, but you did contribute, and as you get older your contribution gets larger until you are taking care of yourself and then are helping someone else to do the same. I see to many kids nowdays that haven't learned anything about taking care of their responsibilities until they are out of college. their contribution to their own welfare was zero until that point now they are overwelmed buy having to do it all at once. they have no work ethic, ability, or desire to work for their own prosperity.
We have less and less people to pay for more and more people because of attitudes like yours. Not saying your attitude is not nobel, but it does breed lazyness and entitlement attitudes from the children and harms them and us in the future.
Exactly. Even if a portion of the current generations are lost causes to this concept it doesn't mean the current generations children have to be.
They're gonna need all the work ethic and self sufficiency they can get to pay for all the debt we've accumulated...
Hey Both of you get back to work.... I get to start collecting my Social Security in a few years.... its my entitlement and I fucking earned it.
GET TO WORK..
Anyone who crashes a MOONEY is totally beneath contempt.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
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