"It's the economy, stupid."

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid

"It's the economy, stupid" was a phrase in American politics widely used during Bill Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign against George H. W. Bush. For a time, Bush was considered unbeatable because of foreign policy developments such as the end of the Cold War and the Persian Gulf War. The phrase, coined by Clinton campaign strategist James Carville, refers to the notion that Clinton was a better choice because Bush had not adequately addressed the economy, which had recently undergone a recession.

Funny how what goes around comes around. And I'm not talking about who's at fault. Obama has so much political skin riding on HC he's pulled a Bush.

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indeed, he should think about that history as he decides what agenda to pursue next.

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indeed, he should think about that history as he decides what agenda to pursue next.

Besides "Blame Bush", you mean?

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indeed, he should think about that history as he decides what agenda to pursue next.

Besides "Blame Bush", you mean?

Bush should only be blamed for things that started under his watch. Like the recession and 2 wars.

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indeed, he should think about that history as he decides what agenda to pursue next.

Besides "Blame Bush", you mean?

Bush should only be blamed for things that started under his watch. Like the recession and 2 wars.

Makes a great scapegoat for y'all, though - "Obama's waging war on Wall Street because of BOOOOOOOSH!"

That also means that tripling the deficit is all Obama...about time he took responsibility for SOMEthing.

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indeed, he should think about that history as he decides what agenda to pursue next.

Besides "Blame Bush", you mean?

Bush should only be blamed for things that started under his watch. Like the recession and 2 wars.

Wrong Bush

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid

"It's the economy, stupid" was a phrase in American politics widely used during Bill Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign against George H. W. Bush. For a time, Bush was considered unbeatable because of foreign policy developments such as the end of the Cold War and the Persian Gulf War. The phrase, coined by Clinton campaign strategist James Carville, refers to the notion that Clinton was a better choice because Bush had not adequately addressed the economy, which had recently undergone a recession.

Funny how what goes around comes around. And I'm not talking about who's at fault. Obama has so much political skin riding on HC he's pulled a Bush.

- After 1 year of a 4-year term he's done?

- The economy has moved wonders, GDP amazing, unemp bottomed, stock market way ahead of schedule

- The really dumb thing about the GHWB criticism levied by many is that he did a great job with the economy, he: raised taxes after fascist Ronnie cut them to shreds leading to a massive deficit flurry, cut spending, esp military when fascist Ronnie slammed them, inherited the recession from his predecessor.

- You forget about GWB's 1st term agenda: fucking working people via the Overtime Bill. It needed 60 votes or 2/3rds (can't recall), enough Dems held out, but then rolled after 3 years of Bush badgering. I think HC is dead in a fascict nation, but they thought the OT Bill was dead many times too. Shows what a bunch of assholes the American voter is, after shoving the OT Bill thru, engaging in a BS war, hammering the debt, GWB was reelected.

- GHWB was a great president presiding over a country of idiots who think that taxes can be cut forever. During the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's the highest tax brkt was no less than 70% and as high as 94% and things went pretty well considering we had WWII, Korea, and VN. Fascist pig Ronnie came along and cut them to 50%, 38% and then 28% and teh American voter thinks that is sustainable. GHWB's only error was not knowing he presided over a countyr of dreamers who don't understand the reality of taxes. Furthermore, virtually all people who were dismayed over his tax increase from 28% to 31% were largely unaffected by it, yet they used that as fodder by which to 'unelect' him.

- Obama is doing a very good job, love how you stick the dagger in 1 year into his term w/o any scandalous ammunition by which to based that on.

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indeed, he should think about that history as he decides what agenda to pursue next.

A slimebag politician worries about his reelection, a true statesman worries about the people.

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indeed, he should think about that history as he decides what agenda to pursue next.

Besides "Blame Bush", you mean?

Bush should only be blamed for things that started under his watch. Like the recession and 2 wars.

Makes a great scapegoat for y'all, though - "Obama's waging war on Wall Street because of BOOOOOOOSH!"

That also means that tripling the deficit is all Obama...about time he took responsibility for SOMEthing.

So the stimulus is Obama's fault? Mike, just answer it w/o refering me somewhere else if you have the ability to do so.

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indeed, he should think about that history as he decides what agenda to pursue next.

Besides "Blame Bush", you mean?

Bush should only be blamed for things that started under his watch. Like the recession and 2 wars.

Wrong Bush

You were talking GHWB, Mike piped in with his usual non-repsonsive GWB remarks, so Kallend was addressing the Bush Mike proposed.

No one says blame GHWB, as he was a very good president and descent man, war hero, etc.

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You're too busy with post diahrea to even read what you're responding too.

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You're too busy with post diahrea to even read what you're responding too.

Which is why you are unable to illustrate why.

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You're too busy with post diahrea to even read what you're responding too.

Which is why you are unable to illustrate why.

Again, post an illustration to what???
Your post is so devoid of fact it could only be found in the fiction aisle of the book store.

Maybe this will help you understand why you see in Obama and what is going on with the country and his admin right now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ8mlC3mWW4

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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daaaaaaanm, the donkeys should ditch the lame fleetwood mac song that has been played endlessly since bill ran for prez and look in to ole john conlee. maybe he can change "rose colred glasses" to something along the lines of "these soft silken blinders" or something.

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"Obama is emerging from a year in Washington that, he now says, has left the public with a sense of "remoteness and detachment" from what he's been trying to do. "

maybe it's more like over exposure to him, his bad ideas and a total disregard for promises made. i think he needs to stay his ass home, turn off the teleprompter, roll his sleeves up and freaking work on getting something done. like maybe some jobs.

funny how this clown is always late for press conferences, then beats us to death with his fascination with the word "I" but never once looks straight into the camera. the teleprompter must always be located well above the camera's line of sight and off to the left or right guess it's hard to look the american people in the eye when you're trashing their country and jet setting around the world apologizing for everything.

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Are you aka 'Ellie Light'?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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No one says blame GHWB, as he was a very good president and descent man, war hero, etc.

Now re-read the OP.

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indeed, he should think about that history as he decides what agenda to pursue next.

A slimebag politician worries about his reelection, a true statesman worries about the people.

An effective politician thinks about the bigger picture. And sorry, I don't see wasting the past 6 months on HC reform that is largely unwanted, rather than working the economic issues, as taking care of the people. Bank reform is more punitive and vengeful (as well as pandering to the masses) than actual assistance. Its costs will be passed on to the consumers, so it's just another tax but not one that they'll see directly.

But more so, if his desire to get back at the fat cats on Wall Street outweighs his interest in working on unemployment, that's both short sighted and stupid. If his party is trounced in November, he'll be even less effective.

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An effective politician thinks about the bigger picture.

Effective politician? Uh, that sounds uber-political in itself. Oxymoronic? Not a clear term that is EXTREMELY subjective.

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And sorry, I don't see wasting the past 6 months on HC reform that is largely unwanted, rather than working the economic issues, as taking care of the people.

That exemplified what I just wrote about subjectivity. I see your party's war-mongering as highly wasteful; now come the denials that you don't want the war.

As for higly unwanted, polls showed it was very wanted, just that no one could agree upon how to do it. Also, I wonder if slavery abolition was unwanted? Yea, so representing the weak and poor USED TO BE what we were about, now it's about representing the corporations and calling it justice. I do, however, understand that you and yours don't give a fucking rat's ass about other than people in your class and above.

"Taking care of the people." In normal terms, that's akin to HC reform, in Nazimerican terms, that's more corporate welfare please.

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Bank reform is more punitive and vengeful (as well as pandering to the masses) than actual assistance.

Yes, making banks walk teh line or actually return teh recent favor of Bish's 700B bailout asking too much as far as Republicans are concerned.

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Its costs will be passed on to the consumers, so it's just another tax but not one that they'll see directly.

That's right, in your fascist government, the one we now have, if you dare mandate corporate rule-following and general fairplay, the consequences will be consumer cost. In Nazimerica the rich eat first, if the rich don't eat, the poor don't eat. What a wondeful system that is failing due to that thinking. In horrible socialized countries they look at that system as attrocious.

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But more so, if his desire to get back at the fat cats on Wall Street outweighs his interest in working on unemployment, that's both short sighted and stupid.

What you call getting back, objective people call mandating rule following. How dare we hold accountable sleezy corporations.

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If his party is trounced in November, he'll be even less effective.

Less effective = a typical Republican mess, unless we measure effectiveness as corruption. But then the typical stupid American voter will get the corrupt gov they deserve, once again.