Belgian_Draft 0 #26 January 17, 2010 QuoteAnd tectonic plates are theory? Yep.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #27 January 17, 2010 Quote Quote And tectonic plates are theory? Yep. So is gravity. But its working pretty well for us when we jump! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #28 January 18, 2010 QuoteA building will NOT fall in freefall speed (you guys know about freefall speed right?). Something breaking down will not fall at the speed of freefall, it has to be brought down to do so. It absolutely DID NOT fall at an acceleration that would result from freefall. It was actually significantly slower. Just because some idiot liars say it did fall too fast doesn't make it so. It is wise to be skeptical of the truthers at least as much as the establishment.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #29 January 18, 2010 Quote: [Quote] And tectonic plates are theory? Yep. So engineer guy, DID YOU WATCH YOUR NIST MATES BEING BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER BY A HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS TEACHER? I would be interested to read your respose to it, that is because you are so sure that you are correct and i am so absolutly wrong."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #30 January 18, 2010 Quote It absolutely DID NOT fall at an acceleration that would result from freefall. It was actually significantly slower. Just because some idiot liars say it did fall too fast doesn't make it so. It is wise to be skeptical of the truthers at least as much as the establishment. See the above post, and click the link, you too are quite badly mistataken. Even NIST has admitted it now, there is no escaping physics huh! Are yuo stil clinging to your story from 5 years ago? or have you changed your hypothesis in line ith NIST? Mine is still the same!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #31 January 18, 2010 QuoteMine is still the same Based on the same intelligence and deductive skills you've demonstrated in the Haiti thread?You are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #32 January 18, 2010 Quoteyou are correct and i am so absolutly wrong You are correct. Your physics teacher friend is wrong.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OG-Tahiti 0 #33 January 18, 2010 Quote It absolutely DID NOT fall at an acceleration that would result from freefall. It was actually significantly slower. Just because some idiot liars say it did fall too fast doesn't make it so. It is wise to be skeptical of the truthers at least as much as the establishment. Then please riddle me that: lost over 1000ft of structure in 10 seconds... Isn't that pretty damn close to free fall starting from zero speed? How is that significantly slower?"Common sense is not so common" - Voltaire Dudeist Skydiver #9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #34 January 18, 2010 QuoteYou are correct. Your physics teacher friend is wrong. Would you care to ellaborate? His efforts 'FORCED' the NIST to change thier 20 million dollar report, and you say he is wrong. I'd like to know what grounds you have to make such and absurd claim?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #35 January 18, 2010 QuoteQuoteYou are correct. Your physics teacher friend is wrong. Would you care to ellaborate? His efforts 'FORCED' the NIST to change thier 20 million dollar report, and you say he is wrong. I'd like to know what grounds you have to make such and absurd claim? Reality.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #36 January 18, 2010 >So engineer guy, DID YOU WATCH YOUR NIST MATES BEING BLOWN OUT >OF THE WATER BY A HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS TEACHER? Some of us went to college (and even did postgraduate work) and thus are not as impressed by high school teachers. But to each their own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #37 January 18, 2010 I will let your own eyes tell you why your high school teacher needs a lot of remedial education. Watch the videos of the towers falling. Notice the debris coming off when the collapse starts? Notice how it hits the ground while the respective tower is still collapsing? The only part of the towers that fell at anywhere near free fall speed was debris that came off and was free of the main structure...unless you believe that it is possible for that debris to fall faster than physics says it can. Building 7 started collapse from the bottom. If you look at pics of the south side, where it was damaged by the collapse of the towers, you will see that there is very severe damage to the lower floors along with the fires that raged inside. Your truther friends conveniently don't show those pics, choosing instead to show pics of the north side so people only see a few smaller fires.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #38 January 18, 2010 Quote Some of us went to college (and even did postgraduate work) and thus are not as impressed by high school teachers. But to each their own. Obviously NIST were impressed, or they wouldn't have changed thier hypothesis. Would they!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #39 January 18, 2010 Quote Quote Some of us went to college (and even did postgraduate work) and thus are not as impressed by high school teachers. But to each their own. Obviously NIST were impressed, or they wouldn't have changed thier hypothesis. Would they! I doubt the opinion of a high school physics teacher would take precedence over that of university professors and scientists, much less cause NIST to change their report.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #40 January 18, 2010 I personally think that XKCD's comic post for today was timely with this thread. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #41 January 18, 2010 Quote I personally think that XKCD's comic post for today was timely with this thread. Ha!XKCD, always awesome, sometimes awesome.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #42 January 19, 2010 Quote I doubt the opinion of a high school physics teacher would take precedence over that of university professors and scientists, much less cause NIST to change their report. It depends on who puts the time and effort in to pointing it out, it was immediately after David Chandler (the said physics teacher) posed the question about the inconsistency of the NIST report and the video evidence, that they changed thier report. I take it you didn't bother to watch the video that clearly points that out? I like your research techniques. Quote Building 7 started collapse from the bottom. If you look at pics of the south side, where it was damaged by the collapse of the towers, you will see that there is very severe damage to the lower floors along with the fires that raged inside. Your truther friends conveniently don't show those pics, choosing instead to show pics of the north side so people only see a few smaller fires. Do you still think the top half of the building hovered in space for 2 seconds before it collapsed?David's video presentation that I have been discussing is about building 7 and NIST's report on it, and building 7 alone."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #43 January 19, 2010 QuoteI personally think that XKCD's comic post for today was timely with this thread. Tis easy to find such subject matter; Like this This and this "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #44 January 19, 2010 Yes, I watched your vid. His theories are wrong. NIST may have revised their report, but it wasn't because of him. QuoteDo you still think the top half of the building hovered in space for 2 seconds before it collapsed? Nope. Never did. Do you honestly think your high school teacher has more expertise with physics than Bill or Kallend?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #45 January 19, 2010 QuoteYes, I watched your vid. His theories are wrong. NIST may have revised their report, but it wasn't because of him. No you watched his vid and his question was what made them change thier hypothesis. they spend years creating in and within a couple of weeks after his question is posed they change it... QuoteDo you honestly think your high school teacher has more expertise with physics than Bill or Kallend? haha looking for back up now, Kallend and Bill were backing the NIST origional report 'before'it was changed, and now that NIST has changed thier point of view, i wonder if they have? This teacher is only one of thousands that are much more qualified, Bill and Kallend have staked their reputation on the official narrative years back when not alot was known and not asmuch evidence was available. They also have conveniently forgotten basic physics. Freefall doesn't happen through the path of greatest resistance in a steel structure without simultanious removal of the said structure, you don't have to be genious to work that out. We all learned about newtons theories in high school, but it seems some have forgotten!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #46 January 19, 2010 If you are so in the dark that you think NIST changed their report because of an obviously under-educated high school teacher, then there is nothing anyone can say that will convince you the sun rises in the east.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #47 January 19, 2010 Quotenothing anyone can say that will convince you the sun rises in the east. Sure there is ... he swallows anything Jones et al issue hook, line and sinker.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #48 January 19, 2010 Quote then there is nothing anyone can say that will convince you the sun rises in the east. ask bill he thinks it is dark in antarctica all summer!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #49 January 19, 2010 QuoteQuotenothing anyone can say that will convince you the sun rises in the east. Sure there is ... he swallows anything Jones et al issue hook, line and sinker. I stand corrected.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #50 January 19, 2010 Quote Quote then there is nothing anyone can say that will convince you the sun rises in the east. ask bill he thinks it is dark in antarctica all summer! Really? I don't recall him ever making that claim. Proof please.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
