Haiti, america turns food and medical supplys away, prioritising troops and reporters instead.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

Bill Clinton said today that US troops will focus on food and other supply distribution and the UN troops will focus on civil security. Canadian troops arriving tomorrow are planning on doing both.

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I guess we have invaded this country
according to France

Since he isn't making his statement in German he might want to shut the hell up.

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I guess we have invaded this country
according to France

Since he isn't making his statement in German he might want to shut the hell up.

You know, I agree that the French guy is an idiot, but at some point we really have to stop thinking that our contributions in WW2 mean we have a free pass to do what we want.

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I guess we have invaded this country
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Since he isn't making his statement in German he might want to shut the hell up.

You know, I agree that the French guy is an idiot, but at some point we really have to stop thinking that our contributions in WW2 mean we have a free pass to do what we want.

Like spending hundreds of millions of dollars helping a disaster area? How arrogant of us to win WWII AND provide humanitarian aid to Haiti.

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Like spending hundreds of millions of dollars helping a disaster area? How arrogant of us to win WWII AND provide humanitarian aid to Haiti.

And if it wasn't for the Europeans, you wouldn't have a country to live in.....all stupid reasoning for current time.

And, the US is not the only country providing aid.

The problem appears to be getting the aid from the airport to where it is needed. I am sure many lessons will be learned from this disaster, as always. However, I strongly believe that everybody is doing the best they can.

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>Since he isn't making his statement in German he might want to shut
>the hell up.

And since you have a president and not a queen, you might want to think before deciding who to try to silence.

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In a situation such as this, a lot of who lands and who doesn't is going to depend on timing... who arrives when there is a free runway, who has been circling the longest, along with what's needed most, where, and when.

Simply having fresh water and food is insufficient in a situation like this. You need methods of distribution, and you need to be able to secure those supply lines. You need a way to get the aid to the people that need it, otherwise you might as well not have those doctors and aid workers and supplies at all.

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In a situation such as this, a lot of who lands and who doesn't is going to depend on timing... who arrives when there is a free runway, who has been circling the longest, along with what's needed most, where, and when.

Simply having fresh water and food is insufficient in a situation like this. You need methods of distribution, and you need to be able to secure those supply lines. You need a way to get the aid to the people that need it, otherwise you might as well not have those doctors and aid workers and supplies at all.

Precisely. A week from now, two weeks from now, one month from now, there are still going to be millions of people without housing or any hope of fending for themselves. The roads must be cleared and order must be preserved (or established).

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They kicked about 50,000 pounds or 40 pallets out of a C17 yesterday full of food and water via a parachute drop so they are using every method they can right now to maximize the ability to land at the airport.

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[Andrewwhyte 1]

Yup, they are fighting what to some degree will be a losing battle to provide food, water, medicine, fuel, road clearing equipment, and security. There are still many many people who have received nothing yet. Of course everyone who has received help need more tomorrow. The more success they have the more the demands upon the system will be. Shelter hasn't even begun to be addressed and won't be for some time. Look at what is going on in New Orleans. This is a much larger project and will take longer.

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Also, the airport isn't the only way onto the island. Ships are arriving carrying supplies too. Even Royal Caribbean is dropping their cruise passengers off at their private beach on one side of the island, and sailing around to Port au Prince on the other side and dropping supplies and having their crew do aid work while they're in port. They made a statement that they considered suspending the cruise operation to Haiti and just running supplies, but thought it would further damage the island's economy, which depends on tourism and the dollars the tourists spend while in port. I do see their point.

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I guess we have invaded this country
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Haitians speak Creole and FRENCH !!!! We also need the French nilitary to get in Haiti, because as far as I know, the US soldiers doesn't speak French and that can create big problems. If the US military are not willing to coordinate efforts with the French, then one can doubt about the "moral legitimity" of the US.
When someone is in desperate need to talk to someone because of so much suffering and despair, that person will express himself/ herself in his/her native language which is French!!!! I just hope Obama has already worked this out with France.
By the way ask Europeans and other nations if they trust the US? Maybe they have legitimate reasons not to trust Americans.

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Even Royal Caribbean is dropping their cruise passengers off at their private beach on one side of the island, and sailing around to Port au Prince on the other side and dropping supplies and having their crew do aid work while they're in port. They made a statement that they considered suspending the cruise operation to Haiti and just running supplies, but thought it would further damage the island's economy, which depends on tourism and the dollars the tourists spend while in port. I do see their point.

And people are bitching about that, too. Some people would rather sit on the sideline whining and complaining about everyone else's effort rather than get in the game themselves. It's sickening, really.

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Maybe they have legitimate reasons not to trust Americans.

Really?

Well, I really dont give a damn in this case, or most other cases for that matter.

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>Since he isn't making his statement in German he might want to shut
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And since you have a president and not a queen, you might want to think before deciding who to try to silence.

That's good. Really puts it into perspective how history can be irrelevant to modern situations.

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Looks like the media is just there to sensationalize misery.


Richard Moran

Anderson Cooper

I realize that two examples out of a hundred hardly represent what's actually going on but hey, it's just like a story of two planes being turned away for unexplained reasons.

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I guess we have invaded this country
according to France


Haitians speak Creole and FRENCH !!!! We also need the French nilitary to get in Haiti, because as far as I know, the US soldiers doesn't speak French and that can create big problems. If the US military are not willing to coordinate efforts with the French, then one can doubt about the "moral legitimity" of the US.
When someone is in desperate need to talk to someone because of so much suffering and despair, that person will express himself/ herself in his/her native language which is French!!!! I just hope Obama has already worked this out with France.
By the way ask Europeans and other nations if they trust the US? Maybe they have legitimate reasons not to trust Americans.
There are ~2000 Canadian troops there now and they do speak french. Also a lot of Haitians speak English. All aid givers need to co-ordinate, but there is no over arching reason for French troops. By the way the French President was backing and filling for his minister today. I think the guy was being a mouthpiece for Medçines sans Frontiers who are frustrated with a lack of medical supplies. The BBC claims that the priorities are coming from the Haitian government; food and water before medicine.

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Bet it plays well on AlJizzeera too.

What did Qatar ever do to you to be so bitter towards them? i suppose they are all just sand niggers right?

for fucks sake woman pull your fucking head in!

Shit... I can't read anymore of this without replying here. Dude, you hate America soooo bad it hurts. This is 100% obvious by every one of your threads and posts. Your childish statement above is just more proof of your twisted thought.

Its humorous, but even more so, sickening how you can commit so much of your time to your hate on America posts. You say such offensive things about America and then start to cry to the Mods the second people say you are full of shit. You PA the US every day so buck up if you get some flack for it.

I'm not sure if this is considered a PA on you, but if it is it's good thing I'm not going to write what I really want to. I guess it's really my fault though for reading your trash.

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I guess we have invaded this country
according to France

Since he isn't making his statement in German he might want to shut the hell up.

You know, I agree that the French guy is an idiot, but at some point we really have to stop thinking that our contributions in WW2 mean we have a free pass to do what we want.

Like spending hundreds of millions of dollars helping a disaster area? How arrogant of us to win WWII AND provide humanitarian aid to Haiti.

I think you missed my point. My bad. To clarify, my point is that if we want to argue that our troops in Haiti is a good thing (which is a good thing) then we should just make that argument based on its merits instead of suggesting that some idiot opposed to our troops being there has no right to speak because of our actions in WW2. Argue from reason, not emotion.