Teacher fired for trying to put hit on student

[nerdgirl 0]

Allegedly because the student was gay.

Article from the Atlanta Journal Constitution here.

"The Clayton County school board voted to fire a teacher accused of ordering a hit on a student, officials said.

"In a unanimous vote, the nine-member board decided to uphold the recommendation made in December by a tribunal to terminate Mundy's Mill High School teacher Randolphe Forde.



"Forde was arrested and charged in October with making terroristic threats against an 11th grade student in one of his classes. Authorities allege that Forde asked whether the student was gay, then offered $50 to a classmate to 'put a hit' on the student."

What business is a student's sexuality to a teacher in a algebra class? Forde was a substitute math teacher.

/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
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[DanG 1]

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What business is a student's sexuality to a teacher in a algebra class? Forde was a substitute math teacher.

What business is a student's sexuality to a teacher in ANY class?

- Dan G

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how did the teacher know the student's sexuality?

[champu 1]

"Let's suppose it costs $50 for me to have someone killed. And let's suppose we want to kill all the gays. If there are x gay people in this class, it would cost x * $50 to kill them all. For example... by show of hands, how many people in the class are gay?"

[DanG 1]

Read the link. It doesn't say that the teacher knew the student's sexuality. The teacher questioned the student about his sexuality in front of the class (which is unacceptable as well), and then offered to pay another student to 'put a hit' on the presumably gay student in question.

BTW, the teacher's name was Randolfe. Maybe his gaydar was particularly well tuned?

- Dan G

[wmw999 2,589]

What planet is he from? That's really the question. This is so far out of the norm that the only way to explain it is that he's not from Earth.

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[rushmc 23]

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Read the link. It doesn't say that the teacher knew the student's sexuality. The teacher questioned the student about his sexuality in front of the class (which is unacceptable as well), and then offered to pay another student to 'put a hit' on the presumably gay student in question.

BTW, the teacher's name was Randolfe. Maybe his gaydar was particularly well tuned?

something about this does not pass the sniff test????

gotta wonder if the teacher was paying another student to "hit on" the one in question, not putting out a hit?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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[DanG 1]

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gotta wonder if the teacher was paying another student to "hit on" the one in question, not putting out a hit?

It would still be wrong, and the teacher should be fired. The crminal case regarding the 'hit' will be heard in court and presumably the teacher will get a fair trial. The school board should terminate this teacher regardless of the context (or intended use of the word 'hit') for even questioning the student's sexuality in front of the class.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

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gotta wonder if the teacher was paying another student to "hit on" the one in question, not putting out a hit?

It would still be wrong, and the teacher should be fired. The crminal case regarding the 'hit' will be heard in court and presumably the teacher will get a fair trial. The school board should terminate this teacher regardless of the context (or intended use of the word 'hit') for even questioning the student's sexuality in front of the class.

Sure it is but putting out a hit????

Never ever even began to think it was right either way.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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[Rstanley0312 1]

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gotta wonder if the teacher was paying another student to "hit on" the one in question, not putting out a hit?

It would still be wrong, and the teacher should be fired. The crminal case regarding the 'hit' will be heard in court and presumably the teacher will get a fair trial. The school board should terminate this teacher regardless of the context (or intended use of the word 'hit') for even questioning the student's sexuality in front of the class.

Agreed but the difference in "putting a hit on someone" and having someone "hit on" that person is very different. Killing vs not killing I'd say is a big difference.

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gotta wonder if the teacher was paying another student to "hit on" the one in question, not putting out a hit?

It would still be wrong, and the teacher should be fired. The crminal case regarding the 'hit' will be heard in court and presumably the teacher will get a fair trial. The school board should terminate this teacher regardless of the context (or intended use of the word 'hit') for even questioning the student's sexuality in front of the class.

Agreed but the difference in "putting a hit on someone" and having someone "hit on" that person is very different. Killing vs not killing I'd say is a big difference.

that was more my point
There is some context mixed or some detail missing cause I find it hare to believe a teacher would put out a hit on a student.
Asking one to hit on another (still not right) could have many agendas behind it
There is only one for killing (generally)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wayneflorida 0]

None. (as questioning about being homosexual.)

But from another article.
Algebra teacher Jennifer Fletcher testified that Forde was a dedicated teacher who was trying to encourage the 11th-grader and others in her class to focus on academics. She said the 11th-grader often danced with another boy at the back of the class when he should have been doing school work.

She said she would never have made any reference to a student's sexual orientation, but she said Forde "was always looking for an alternative approach -- something that would shock the kids and get them into the routine."

Fletcher said she didn't know Forde had asked the boy about being gay until the next day when the 11th-grader threatened Forde.

She also testified that the 11th-grader had told another teacher he had the ability to get her arrested or fired.-----------------


I was so harmed when I went to school. Could have
pocket knives, aspirin, students and teachers didn't kill other students or teachers, no sex in class, was taught reading, writing, math, etc. and etc.

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Asking one to hit on another (still not right) could have many agendas behind it
There is only one for killing (generally)

nope, both seem to be "terroristic threats"

at least, in today's context of escalatory use of hotbutton words

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Asking one to hit on another (still not right) could have many agendas behind it
There is only one for killing (generally)

nope, both seem to be "terroristic threats"

at least, in today's context of escalatory use of hotbutton words

Well, in any event, your "nope" may be trumped but the info provided in the post befor yours

Which mean my sniff test was correct (maybe)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Agreed but the difference in "putting a hit on someone" and having someone "hit on" that person is very different. Killing vs not killing I'd say is a big difference.

Concur. Both wrong. Differently wrong.

W/r/t this incident, however, there is nothing that suggests that the teacher was making sexual advances toward a student.

"Georgia teacher Randolphe Forde accused of putting a 'hit' on his student"

"A Clayton County Police report says that Forde pulled a student off a school bus on October 9 and told him he 'would pay him to kill the victim.' Forde then wrote the 16-year-old victim-to-be's name on a piece of paper ...

"... the two [teacher & student] also argued in class on or around Sept. 30, and Forde threatened to 'hit him in his 'effin mouth.'"

The local school board made the firing decision that was reported in the AJC article I quoted previously. The criminal case is still to be resolved afaik.

/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying

[nerdgirl 0]

Guessing this was the article, yes?

It also notes that "The other teen [not the one that the other alleged "hit" was made on] said he initially didn't know whether to take Forde seriously. In September, he said, Forde had made a similar statement about a hit, only that time the target was a girl." For the sake of argument, even if Mr Forde was "joking," is threatening to kill students an appropriate thing for a teacher to joke about? Probably not, imo. Others may disagree.

/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying

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something about this does not pass the sniff test????

When the story first came out last fall, I asked the same thing. Different words ... but similar skepticism. There also was a sense of Clayton County has enough problems, it doesn't need yet another.
Mr. Forde's case has been through multiple levels of investigation and one part has reached resolution - the local school board found enough evidence to fire the teacher, which was yesterday's announcement I cited in the AJC initially. That was the unanimous decision of the elected local School Board.

/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
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something about this does not pass the sniff test????

When the story first came out last fall, I asked the same thing. Different words ... but similar skepticism. There also was a sense of Clayton County has enough problems, it doesn't need yet another.
Mr. Forde's case has been through multiple levels of investigation and one part has reached resolution - the local school board found enough evidence to fire the teacher, which was yesterday's announcement I cited in the AJC initially. That was the unanimous decision of the elected local School Board.

/Marg

I dont question whether or not the teacher should be fired or not. The "hit" vs "hitting on" just didnt smell right

With the other article linked or quoted earlie I gotta wonder if a student has an agenda here as well

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 2]

So much for the conservative case for gay marriage.

[Rstanley0312 1]

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Agreed but the difference in "putting a hit on someone" and having someone "hit on" that person is very different. Killing vs not killing I'd say is a big difference.

Concur. Both wrong. Differently wrong.

W/r/t this incident, however, there is nothing that suggests that the teacher was making sexual advances toward a student.

"Georgia teacher Randolphe Forde accused of putting a 'hit' on his student"

"A Clayton County Police report says that Forde pulled a student off a school bus on October 9 and told him he 'would pay him to kill the victim.' Forde then wrote the 16-year-old victim-to-be's name on a piece of paper ...

"... the two [teacher & student] also argued in class on or around Sept. 30, and Forde threatened to 'hit him in his 'effin mouth.'"

The local school board made the firing decision that was reported in the AJC article I quoted previously. The criminal case is still to be resolved afaik.

/Marg

That is pretty black and white in the article. If this is true.... WTF is all that I can think to say.

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[Rstanley0312 1]

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Guessing this was the article, yes?

For the sake of argument, even if Mr Forde was "joking," is threatening to kill students an appropriate thing for a teacher to joke about? Probably not, imo. Others may disagree.

/Marg

Well those ppl should be shot

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Guessing this was the article, yes?

For the sake of argument, even if Mr Forde was "joking," is threatening to kill students an appropriate thing for a teacher to joke about? Probably not, imo. Others may disagree.

/Marg

Well those ppl should be shot

I think it's a sign of the flagging economy. A lousy 50 bucks for a hit? It's worth 200 easy.

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I think it's a sign of the flagging economy. A lousy 50 bucks for a hit? It's worth 200 easy.

$200 isn't that much, but there are just SO many people that need to be hit, that it really adds up.