Ron 10 #51 January 13, 2010 QuoteYou ACTUALLY wrote "You also know damn good and well that Federal law prohibits sales to the mentally ill." And you know that it actually does, right? The Gun Control Act of 1968: QuoteUnder the GCA, firearms possession by certain categories of individuals is prohibited. 1. Anyone who has been convicted in a federal court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year, excluding crimes of imprisonment that are related to the regulation of business practices. 2. Anyone who has been convicted in a state court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding two years, excluding crimes of imprisonment that are related to the regulation of business practices. 3. Anyone who is a fugitive from justice. 4. Anyone who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance. 5. Anyone who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution. 6. Any alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa. Aliens who have a tourist visa or student visa may possess guns if they have a current, valid hunting license. 7. Anyone who has been discharged under dishonorable conditions from the United States armed forces 8. Anyone who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his or her citizenship. 9. Anyone that is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner. 10. Anyone who has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence (added in 1996 by the Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban, or "Lautenberg Amendment.") So, Cho was in fact not allowed to own a firearm. This was a failure of the REPORTING system, and does not mean he was legally allowed to own it. Cho was found to have a mental issue... But he was not found to be a threat.... You could claim that he should not have been allowed to own a gun based on his out patient commitment (and I would agree), but according to your OWN source: QuoteHIPAA and VaHRP generally require that no health care entity disclose an individual’s health records or information. However, permitted exceptions are information necessary for the care of a patient and information concerning a patient who may present a serious threat to public health or safety... Because interpretation of HIPAA and FERPA were key in stopping adequate exchange of information concerning Cho, the panel requested that its legal council research the interpretation and exceptions under these laws, which is presented in the next chapter. So it was not a failure of the CGA of 1968... It was a failure of the reporting agencies due to HIPAA and VaHRP. In the FINDINGS of your cite: QuoteThe lack of a requirement in the Virginia Code to certify outpatient commitment orders to the CCRE resulted in Cho’s name not being entered in the database, which could have prevented his purchase of firearms. The Virginia Health Records Privacy and Va. Code 37.2-814 was amended after this to close the gap in the reporting process.... Again, it was illegal for Cho to buy any weapon. Just as it is illegal for a felon to buy a weapon. So again, I ask.... What would YOU consider to be a proper process? And would YOU be willing to put that same process in place for aviation, model rocket motors...ect? And I am STILL waiting on you to answer what you meant by, "people like you make it easy"..... I really wish you would be honest and say what you are trying to imply."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #52 January 13, 2010 QuoteWorked well in Kennesaw (where gun ownership is mandatory) today You do know the law is mandatory to own one in the HOME... Not at WORK or not to CARRY right? Was this a crime at a *house*, or a *business*?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #53 January 13, 2010 QuoteSo were you lying when you wrote "You also know damn good and well that Federal law prohibits sales to the mentally ill" No, I was generalizing. Quote, or when you wrote 2 years ago that Cho lied on his form? Given the info available at the time, I thought he had - I now know better due to the info you provided. QuoteAt least you've now admitted altering what I wrote so you could call me a liar. ANOTHER lie. I clipped the post, yes, to ACCENTUATE my question which you STILL haven't answered.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #54 January 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote You didn't answer the question - you dodged it. Please try again. No, I did. You just didn't like the answer. Well, since you and kallend have now shown up in force with your little games, I can see that this thread will no longer be worth watching. I'm off to look for some honest discussion. Wow! First time you're announcing it before you wimp out .... Usually, you just disappear into the nowhere after starting one of your special threads. LMAO edited for typo dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #55 January 13, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote You didn't answer the question - you dodged it. Please try again. No, I did. You just didn't like the answer. Well, since you and kallend have now shown up in force with your little games, I can see that this thread will no longer be worth watching. I'm off to look for some honest discussion. Wow! Frist time you're announcing it before you wimp out .... Usually, you just disappear into the nowhere after starting one of your special threads. LMAO as opposed to what? drive by posts with insults?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #56 January 13, 2010 Quote .... Wow! Frist time you're announcing it before you wimp out .... Usually, you just disappear into the nowhere after starting one of your special threads. LMAO as opposed to what? drive by posts with insults? Excuse me: What??? (Are you talking for yourself or your master?) Sorry, as I'm just an alien, perhaps my post is not really clear. Just let me know. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #57 January 14, 2010 Quote Quote .... Wow! Frist time you're announcing it before you wimp out .... Usually, you just disappear into the nowhere after starting one of your special threads. LMAO as opposed to what? drive by posts with insults? Excuse me: What??? (Are you talking for yourself or your master?) Sorry, as I'm just an alien, perhaps my post is not really clear. Just let me know. Oh your post was very clear. As was mine"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
