Political Correctness and Ft Hood Tragedy

[rushmc 23]

Wendy
I cant do on line discussions at this depth when I type. My mind races faster than my fingers can even come close to keeping up with and things get distorted.

But, for the sake of a simple answer. I am not against change. I does happen, it will happen, and for the most part it needs to happen. when change has a natural progression it works.

On the other hand, change, for the sake of change or, more to the point, changes that relieve people of taking care of themselves and their families and remove the personal responsibilities and happiness and pride that comes from being self reliant is bad. This is the kind of change that the HC bill is for an example. Welfare (as it is today) is another example.

No, I don't want to take away the safety net and provide help at a level. I dont mind paying taxes to support some of those programs at at reasonable level. But taking money , or more to the point, punishing achievers and demonizing those who work hard and get rich buy giving hard earned dollars to those who such at the teat of the gov helps nothing and no one. It only provides a little changing voting block. Here is where change is needed

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,120]

>It's good to keep the message alive until the wussification of America has
>been reversed through the abolition of progressive liberalism and the
>socialist agenda.

I'd actually prefer more US-style liberal governments than Taliban-style conservative governments; the Taliban is one of the few governments/groups that actually managed to abolish most liberalism (i.e. women's rights, women voting, homosexuality, various vices etc.)

>I prefer to abolish incorrect thinking and behavior by promoting the
>benefits of successful living through the liberty of expressing the freedom
>of individual spirit.

Abolish "incorrect behavior" (i.e. crime) - I'm all for that.

Abolish "incorrect thinking" - too Orwellian for me. Thought control has been tried; hasn't worked all that well.

[rushmc 23]

Abolish "incorrect thinking" - too Orwellian for me. Thought control has been tried; hasn't worked all that well.

[billvon 3,120]

>Ah, this IS the PC crowd in the US today.

Perhaps. I'll let you argue with RonD about that; he seems to feel it is a way to _fight_ political correctness.

[rushmc 23]

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>Ah, this IS the PC crowd in the US today.

Perhaps. I'll let you argue with RonD about that; he seems to feel it is a way to _fight_ political correctness.

Fight it? Not sure of your twist here.

But one way to deal with it is to constantly expose it for the pure shit it is and then not let the PC police intimidate you into silence

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[georgerussia 0]

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For the most part we live with laws that came from or agree to Christian values. Generally, not specifically.

This seems to be incorrect. Christian values agreed with already existing laws, not vice versa. Also could you please name a couple of laws we live with which _came_ from Christian values (and which are not plain silly)?

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We have been for many years moving away from being responsible for ourselves and our own actions. This, again, IMO, moves us away from Christian values.

Being responsible for yourself and your action has nothing to do with Christian values.

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[RonD1120 62]

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So you're saying that you'd prefer the US to be a Christian theocracy? Obviously not everyone would have to be a Christian, they'd just have to adhere to whichever laws in the Bible were enforced by the sect in charge. Because a government can enforce behavior, not belief. Look at how well enforcing belief has worked for totalitarian governments.

Some sects won't allow women leading men. Some sects are OK with that. Some sects enforce some of the Leviticus laws; others say that they are of the Old Testament. Some sects celebrate Sunday as the sabbath, others Saturday.

Since these kinds of rules would have a huge impact on how people lived, there'd have to be a specific set chosen; ergo, a sect-in-charge. Is there a single right one?

Wendy P.

You are sliding into a theological discussion. My post concerned political correctness and its detrimental effect in the military command structure at Ft Hood.

In the treatment of substance use disorder, as with other mental health issues, gut level, rigorous honesty is encouraged to the near mandatory level. People adjust more efficiently when confronted honestly.

The wussification of America is the subversive movement based on the notion that no one's feelings should be hurt. Thus, we have political correctness.

Actually, I would prefer a Christian theocratic government but, that will not happen until Jesus Christ of Nazareth returns and establishes His government. Probably won't happen in our lifetime.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 62]

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Progressive liberals and their socialistic agenda is movement for power and control by elitists.

Pssst... hate to break it to you, but you've just defined fascism.

Exactly! Thank you for your supportive agreement.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

RonD1120

Reports are indicating that political correctness was a prime factor in the Ft Hood murders.

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In Hasan Case, Superiors Ignored Their Worries

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,582732,00.html

Something interesting in this case came out yesterday.

It seems that Hassan was a Koran "Literalist". He believed that his mother, who died in 2001 was burning in hell for selling alcohol.

Somehow, he transformed that belief into the idea that killing the US soldiers at Ft Hood would atone for her sins and allow her into "paradise".

The correspondence with the radical Iman had far less to do with it than originally thought.

Link: https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-army-officer-turned-terrorist-thought-attack-save/story?id=58585738

So, rather than 'political correctness', it was 'religious idiocy' and literal belief of the 'sacred texts'.

Several threads popped up in search. This one seemed appropriate. Link in OP is long dead.

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[RonD1120 62]

wolfriverjoe

***Reports are indicating that political correctness was a prime factor in the Ft Hood murders.

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In Hasan Case, Superiors Ignored Their Worries

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,582732,00.html

Something interesting in this case came out yesterday.

It seems that Hassan was a Koran "Literalist". He believed that his mother, who died in 2001 was burning in hell for selling alcohol.

Somehow, he transformed that belief into the idea that killing the US soldiers at Ft Hood would atone for her sins and allow her into "paradise".

The correspondence with the radical Iman had far less to do with it than originally thought.

Link: https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-army-officer-turned-terrorist-thought-attack-save/story?id=58585738

So, rather than 'political correctness', it was 'religious idiocy' and literal belief of the 'sacred texts'.

Several threads popped up in search. This one seemed appropriate. Link in OP is long dead.

I agree this is an interesting view.

IIRC the PC aspect had to do with his ARMY superiors overlooking his Islamic behavior within its ranks.

Bottom line, a religious nut is a religious nut and they come in all flavors. In America, we understand Christian nuts much better than Islamic nuts.

Or, at least I do.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.