The Conservative Case for Gay Marriage

[rushmc 23]

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I find it funny that many of those who protest strongly when the government in Quebec imposes linguistic rules are strongly in favor of government doing the same in the USA.

Is it, in your opinion, possible for the word marriage to ever evolve through common usage to include homosexual unions?

Yes, that is possible. It hasn't happened yet, nor should it be forced by the government or the courts.

I would argue that the evolution is under way, and the government should neither force it, nor stand in the way. Legislation like prop 8 is adding control of language to state constitutions on behalf of special interest groups.

I would submit that it is in spite of special interest groups

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,118]

>I would submit that it is in spite of special interest groups

The special interest group most responsible for the passage of Prop 8 is the Mormon Church, who spent millions on a media blitz and on canvassers. They succeeded in using the government to impose their morality on the people of California.

I'm not worried in the long term, though. The demographics are pretty clear, and once the older, more anti-gay voters are replaced by younger ones, it will become impossible for a group even as large as the Mormon Church to buy an election.

[rushmc 23]

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>I would submit that it is in spite of special interest groups

The special interest group most responsible for the passage of Prop 8 is the Mormon Church, who spent millions on a media blitz and on canvassers. They succeeded in using the government to impose their morality on the people of California.

I'm not worried in the long term, though. The demographics are pretty clear, and once the older, more anti-gay voters are replaced by younger ones, it will become impossible for a group even as large as the Mormon Church to buy an election.

they are all special interest groups

I dont care who you want to point out.
The "statement" made regarding this is very much the same as NOT calling unions special interest groups.

I also find it interesting when libs loose elections it is because it was bought or some such bull shit. But when they win it is some sort of referendum.

Consistancy at it's best I guess

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Remster 30]

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I find it funny that many of those who protest strongly when the government in Quebec imposes linguistic rules are strongly in favor of government doing the same in the USA.

Not me!

Remster

[billvon 3,118]

>they are all special interest groups

OK. Including, I suppose, you.

>I dont care who you want to point out.

Of course not; it contradicts your religion.

[rushmc 23]

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>they are all special interest groups

OK. Including, I suppose, you.

>I dont care who you want to point out.

Of course not; it contradicts your religion.

My religion?? My my, this must touch a nerve for you to get so personal

But I guess my point must have some merit since you have no substantive reply

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[georgerussia 0]

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I'm not worried in the long term, though. The demographics are pretty clear, and once the older, more anti-gay voters are replaced by younger ones, it will become impossible for a group even as large as the Mormon Church to buy an election.

I also hope they would pay back, by implementing something like Mormon Church contribution tax. Something like 90% sounds like a nice start figure.

* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

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I would argue that the evolution is under way, and the government should neither force it, nor stand in the way. Legislation like prop 8 is adding control of language to state constitutions on behalf of special interest groups.

I would submit that it is in spite of special interest groups

Just about every special interest group has a contrary counterpart, so you are absolutely correct. I don't think that simply because there are losers there necessarily has to be a winner though. Kallend's argument is that we shouldn't force language on the greater population because a particular special interest group wants it that way. I agree with that, but in the case of CA prop 8 the forcing was being done by the LDS church.

[Shotgun 1]

Speaking of conservatives for gay marriage, nice photos of Cindy and Meghan McCain:
http://www.noh8campaign.com/

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Cool!

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