Reid and Obama kiss and make up

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"The top Democrat in the U.S. Senate apologized on Saturday for comments he made about Barack Obama's race during the 2008 presidential bid.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada described then-Sen. Barack Obama as "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect." Obama is the nation's first African-American president."

"Even before his ill-considered remarks, a new survey released Saturday by the Las Vegas Review Journal showed him continuing to earn poor polling numbers. In the poll, by Mason-Dixon Polling & Research, Reid trailed former state Republican party chairwoman Sue Lowden by a 10 percentage points, 50 percent to 40 percent, and also lagging behind two other opponents."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/09/reid-apolgizes-racial-remarks-obama/

I picture a bunch of Democrats struggling to claw their way out of quicksand.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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I picture a bunch of Democrats struggling to claw their way out of quicksand.

Really? I picture the two of them looking at each other and saying, "Meh. It was over a year ago and we're on the same side so who really gives a flying fuck? Oh yeah, the right wing media. Whatever."

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You didn't get it.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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You didn't get it.

If you're implying that this is what gets him unelected . . . I seriously doubt it.

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You didn't get it.

If you're implying that this is what gets him unelected . . . I seriously doubt it.

I'm not implying that. It might be something else that gets him (and others) unelected, though.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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You didn't get it.

He must have ran out of race cards to throw.

Oh, wait...it was a DEM saying that - nevermind, nothing to see here.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Oh, wait...it was a DEM saying that - nevermind, nothing to see here.

EVERYBODY gets slammed for racial remarks whether they're intended to hurt the other person or not. Clearly Reid didn't intend his comment to be mean to Obama, but it was insensitive and is what all the hullabaloo is about. Nobody gets a free pass, but Obama knows there was no ill intent.

What I especially can't stand is when somebody uses a term intentionally and then claims they used the term only for its innocent definition. That's complete bullshit. They know exactly what they're doing.

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Oh, wait...it was a DEM saying that - nevermind, nothing to see here.

EVERYBODY gets slammed for racial remarks whether they're intended to hurt the other person or not. Clearly Reid didn't intend his comment to be mean to Obama, but it was insensitive and is what all the hullabaloo is about. Nobody gets a free pass, but Obama knows there was no ill intent.

I must have missed where Reid got slammed for it during the runup to the election.

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What I especially can't stand is when somebody uses a term intentionally and then claims they used the term only for its innocent definition. That's complete bullshit. They know exactly what they're doing.

So, Reid's is innocent, but the poster's comment in the other thread wasn't? And you know this, how?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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So Reid gets a "no harm no foul" pass because you say so, while you latch onto a single word, take it obviously out of intent and start throwing veiled bigot tags.
Such selective application of your ethics.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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Context IS what it's all about.

Reid wasn't making a disparaging comment about Obama. If you read the actual comment, he was attempting to make a compliment, but picked some pretty poor words to do it. I think we've all struggled with at times with the proper language to describe Obama.

That said, the word "boy" used to describe Obama simply can't be justified in any way, shape or form, unless you're referring to him in his youth and even then a person would have to be pretty clueless to use it.

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Sorry-I'm calling horseshit. Context and intent is everything and you purposely misinterpreted both. And...I've never struggled with the proper language to describe Obama.

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Context IS what it's all about.

Reid wasn't making a disparaging comment about Obama. If you read the actual comment, he was attempting to make a compliment, but picked some pretty poor words to do it. I think we've all struggled with at times with the proper language to describe Obama.

That said, the word "boy" used to describe Obama simply can't be justified in any way, shape or form, unless you're referring to him in his youth and even then a person would have to be pretty clueless to use it.

Bullshit. You hear it in rap songs and you see it in movies. Google "You're my boy, Blue".

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Bullshit. You hear it in rap songs and you see it in movies. Google "You're my boy, Blue".

And by that same logic, I suppose you feel not just allowed but also compelled to call Obama a "nigger"?

No, that's insane.

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Context IS what it's all about.

Reid wasn't making a disparaging comment about Obama. If you read the actual comment, he was attempting to make a compliment, but picked some pretty poor words to do it. I think we've all struggled with at times with the proper language to describe Obama.

That said, the word "boy" used to describe Obama simply can't be justified in any way, shape or form, unless you're referring to him in his youth and even then a person would have to be pretty clueless to use it.

Bullshit. You hear it in rap songs and you see it in movies. Google "You're my boy, Blue".

Hey why dont you drop down to the chow hall and try that theory out with the first black guy you run into.

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None of you get it.

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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Bullshit. You hear it in rap songs and you see it in movies. Google "You're my boy, Blue".

And by that same logic, I suppose you feel not just allowed but also compelled to call Obama a "nigger"?

No, that's insane.

Nope, but doesn't surprise me that YOU see it that way - we've already seen the ..... disparity ..... in your tolerance depending on the ideology of the speaker.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Context IS what it's all about.

Reid wasn't making a disparaging comment about Obama. If you read the actual comment, he was attempting to make a compliment, but picked some pretty poor words to do it. I think we've all struggled with at times with the proper language to describe Obama.

That said, the word "boy" used to describe Obama simply can't be justified in any way, shape or form, unless you're referring to him in his youth and even then a person would have to be pretty clueless to use it.

Bullshit. You hear it in rap songs and you see it in movies. Google "You're my boy, Blue".

Hey why dont you drop down to the chow hall and try that theory out with the first black guy you run into.

My best friend / Shannon's godfather doesn't have a problem with it - neither do the other 3 black people I work with.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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None of you get it.

Sure we do:

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None of you get it.

Sure we do:

kissy-poo

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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Context IS what it's all about.

Reid wasn't making a disparaging comment about Obama. If you read the actual comment, he was attempting to make a compliment, but picked some pretty poor words to do it. I think we've all struggled with at times with the proper language to describe Obama.

That said, the word "boy" used to describe Obama simply can't be justified in any way, shape or form, unless you're referring to him in his youth and even then a person would have to be pretty clueless to use it.

Apparently, though, Reid only got the Reader's Digest Condensed version, of PC training...Why was the word even in his personal lexicon?

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Chris Rock - "He speaks so well"

Chris Rock addressed this issue back when Colin Powell
was being discussed as a major political figure and
someone said the same thing. "He speaks so well."

Rock is black and did not take it as a compliment.

"He speaks so well is not a compliment unless the person
is retarded and can talk."

Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer. Of friggin' course he doesn't speak Ebonics.
There is only surprise that a Harvard graduate "speaks well" is because he is black.

The surprise that Obama does not speak ghetto rap
is what makes the comment racist.

Just because Obama let it slide, does not mean that
the comment was racist. It just means that he is not
cutting his party leaders' political throat.

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Chris Rock - "He speaks so well"

Chris Rock addressed this issue back when Colin Powell
was being discussed as a major political figure and
someone said the same thing. "He speaks so well."

Rock is black and did not take it as a compliment.

"He speaks so well is not a compliment unless the person
is retarded and can talk."

Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer. Of friggin' course he doesn't speak Ebonics.
There is only surprise that a Harvard graduate "speaks well" is because he is black.

The surprise that Obama does not speak ghetto rap
is what makes the comment racist.

Just because Obama let it slide, does not mean that
the comment was racist. It just means that he is not
cutting his party leaders' political throat.

And where did your heroW graduate from????

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi/


He doesn't speak so well for a white guy.

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Chris Rock - "He speaks so well"

Chris Rock addressed this issue back when Colin Powell
was being discussed as a major political figure and
someone said the same thing. "He speaks so well."

Rock is black and did not take it as a compliment.

"He speaks so well is not a compliment unless the person
is retarded and can talk."

Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer. Of friggin' course he doesn't speak Ebonics.
There is only surprise that a Harvard graduate "speaks well" is because he is black.

The surprise that Obama does not speak ghetto rap
is what makes the comment racist.

Just because Obama let it slide, does not mean that
the comment was racist. It just means that he is not
cutting his party leaders' political throat.

And where did your heroW graduate from????

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi/


He doesn't speak so well for a white guy.

We weren't discussing him because he didn't make a racist slur against Obama.

We could discuss the racism of other Dems, like Bill Clinton did (twice) against Obama during the Hillary Rottweiller Clinton campaign (NC and Miss).

"...Getting so much resistance from behind.
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound. Everybody look what's going down."

It seems like the Dems are the source of racist remarks about Obama. Anyone want to talk about the
topic at hand, or revert to avoidance.

Didn't Obama himself say that he wanted to confront the
uncomfortable conversations about racism?

With his willingness to gloss over this comment, apparently not.

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Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer. Of friggin' course he doesn't speak Ebonics.
There is only surprise that a Harvard graduate "speaks well" is because he is black.

I was pointing out the fallacy that someone who attends Harvard....might be well spoken..

I always do get a kick though out of the right wing racists.. who come out of the woodwork... to point out people in the opposing party by saying .. oh look he is making a racist comment too. Based on what was said I think it falls a tad short of what is said at most conservative rallies about minorities, women and gays as a general rule.

Here is a site I think you and other conservatives should like.

http://cofcc.org/

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Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer. Of friggin' course he doesn't speak Ebonics.
There is only surprise that a Harvard graduate "speaks well" is because he is black.

I was pointing out the fallacy that someone who attends Harvard....might be well spoken..

I always do get a kick though out of the right wing racists.. who come out of the woodwork... to point out people in the opposing party by saying .. oh look he is making a racist comment too. Based on what was said I think it falls a tad short of what is said at most conservative rallies about minorities, women and gays as a general rule.

Here is a site I think you and other conservatives should like.

http://cofcc.org/

Interesting. "All you... people thinks alike and talks alike."

That is how is non-thinkers talk.
"All you right-wingers, left-wingers, blacks, whites, women, men, northerners, southerners - do... alike."

Grouping people by association is how racism works.
Yet equating...
conservative = racist
southerner = racist
or some other generalization is ok.

College, or not, I did not find it surprising that
a black man did not speak like a "negro".
I associate with black people on every work site.
That type of comment would never occur to me
(even though I am an ignorant, inbred, racist Southerner).

Perhaps that is what the Dem leadership needs.
More contact with black people.
Perhaps that is why pinko-commie-liberals are said to be "living in an ivory tower".

Let's face it, there is no spin that says this was not a
racist comment.