Do You Believe Every Human Life is Unequivocally More Important to Protect Than the Life of Any Animal?

[PLFXpert 0]

Please explain.

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[vortexring 0]

No, not unequivocally; unfortunately there are people where society in general would be better off without. Perhaps that then raises the death penalty debate...

In general I would say that the average human life is more important than any animals - do we find walking or entering a butchers shop as emotional as observing soldiers or civilians killed in Afghanistan?

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[nigel99 619]

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Please explain.

i don't know your view but yes it is. As I see it there are to basic "starting points" depending on your stance.

1) Humans are at the top of the evolutionary chain, or
2) God made humans "special"

I don't really care which viewpoint is used as the basis, it still leads on to the fact that in possibly all modern societies Human's have special rights and so while you can be punished for murdering a human, there is no concept of animal "murder" and the legal punishments are on a different scale - rightly so.

To be fair some cultures and religions place certain animal species worth on par or above that of a human (Hindu's with cows).

I don't believe in animal cruelty, but on the other hand I am left speechless by the number of people that I meet that are unable to separate their emotional/rational treatment of a pet from that of a human child. I find it deeply disturbing and honestly without wishing to offend bordering on mental illness when someone truly accepts and treats a pet cat or dog as a child of their own.

I suppose with over population and endangered species you could feed indian children to bengal tigers - that might keep a few people happy and at least the tigers will be well fed.

Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

[captain1976 0]

Yes, unfortunately fanatics who put animals and trees before people don't agree that they were put here for our use.

If they were not, then just the laws of nature deem that its survival of the fittest and they are not.

I don't believe in abusing these gifts and they should be protected to a degree, but we come first.

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[RonD1120 62]

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Please explain.

Yes, because they are animals. They are here to serve Man not to be served by Man. They do not have a soul. They are not held accountable.

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in general, human life is more important than animal life. is every human life unequivocally more important than any animal? of course not.

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[Rstanley0312 1]

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in general, human life is more important than animal life. is every human life unequivocally more important than any animal? of course not.

I like this answer. If I was told I had to shoot Ted Bundy or some random animal I would have cleared a mag before you finished your sentence and I can promise you that the animal would be just fine.

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[futuredivot 0]

"Every" and "any" are the sticking points. I believe that humans are more important than other animal. But I have no problem shooting you to protect my dogs.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[redlegphi 0]

>Yes, because they are animals.
This is a circular argument. I can make the same argument in favor of eating man. "Is it OK to eat man?" "Yes, because they are man." "Oh, OK then." Logical fail.

>They are here to serve Man not to be served by Man.
I would argue that it's not demonstrable that they're here to serve man or to be served by man. They are simply here. As far as I know, they don't have a purpose statement stamped onto their bodies somewhere.

>They do not have a soul.
Prove it.

>They are not held accountable.
They most certainly are. Dogs that attack humans will be executed. Same goes for pretty much any other animal. It doesn't get much more accountable than that.

[PLFXpert 0]

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in general, human life is more important than animal life. is every human life unequivocally more important than any animal? of course not.

Will you provide an example of a situation involving both a human and an animal in which you would be more concerned with the protection of the animal?

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[Andy9o8 2]

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Do You Believe Every Human Life is Unequivocally More Important to Protect Than the Life of Any Animal?

For the most part, yes. There may be a few special exceptions. Almost all life forms feed on other life forms' organic matter in one way or another. But notions that some life forms are put on Earth for the purpose of "serving" other life forms are species-centric arrogance at best, and Spaghetti Monsterism silliness at worst.

[rhys 0]

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They do not have a soul.

says who?

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Yes, because they are animals

And we are not animals? if we are not animals then what are we?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[billvon 3,120]

In general, yes. In very specific cases, no.

[VanillaSkyGirl 6]

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Do You Believe Every Human Life is Unequivocally More Important to Protect Than the Life of Any Animal?

I love my dog with all of my heart, and I would NEVER want to see her life taken over anyone's. However, if a child were dying, perhaps drowning, and my own dog were somehow hurt/couldn't swim and were dying/drowing; I would have to save the child, first and foremost. If this meant that my own beloved pet passed away, I would still have to do it, although it would haunt me forever. If it meant that the child might someday grow up to be a horrible person, I would still feel obligated to save the child over the animal. That said, I would do my best to save both lives, even if it killed me.

If this scenario were with an adult, who chose to live a life of hurt & negativity, and my dog, it would be a tough call, but I would still want to help another human being live. Every being/animal's life is precious, but I do feel that, for the most part, a human's life is sacred.

[RonD1120 62]

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>Yes, because they are animals.
This is a circular argument. I can make the same argument in favor of eating man. "Is it OK to eat man?" "Yes, because they are man." "Oh, OK then." Logical fail.

>They are here to serve Man not to be served by Man.
I would argue that it's not demonstrable that they're here to serve man or to be served by man. They are simply here. As far as I know, they don't have a purpose statement stamped onto their bodies somewhere.

>They do not have a soul.
Prove it.

>They are not held accountable.
They most certainly are. Dogs that attack humans will be executed. Same goes for pretty much any other animal. It doesn't get much more accountable than that.

No argument here. The question pertained to the importance of protection.

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[captain1976 0]

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If I was told I had to shoot Ted Bundy or some random animal I would have cleared a mag before you finished your sentence and I can promise you that the animal would be just fine.

Serial killers, including Manson, Gein, Bundy, Dahmer and Gacy are simply mentally ill. They definitely need to be locked up to protect society, but killing them is simply an act of revenge for those that want it.

Most recent studies have found that most of these people suffered from some type of head injury in their earlier lives.

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[rynodigsmusic 0]

damn, this is a good question huh? I like animals, and yes, I am guilty of treating dogs/cats better than I do/have humans. I am also guitly of not understanding how someone could treat their dog/cat better than a human... as is the case in many places... many.

I have also been known to nearly kill myself in a car trying not to hit something. (a practice I am trying to change). IF I encounter a dear on a mountain road, Im going to try to hit it instead of swirve... but if I see a human, i think I would rather swirve and let be what will be.

So, I think you have to evaluate each case. I just try to follow my heart. If my heart is more for a dog than a human, at the time the "protection" is needed, then so be it. However, I dont think its right to value the life of an animal over the life of a human, but do think it is right to value the life of all living things as best you can.

What I find so fascinating is the protection that some animals give humans... to the point of giving their own life (which should go against their natural instincts) to save ours.

"We didn't start the fire"

[RonD1120 62]

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They do not have a soul.

says who?

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Yes, because they are animals

And we are not animals? if we are not animals then what are we?

Human beings. Didn't you get the memo?

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Serial killers, including Manson, Gein, Bundy, Dahmer and Gacy are simply mentally ill. They definitely need to be locked up to protect society, but killing them is simply an act of revenge for those that want it.

Closet liberal.

[captain1976 0]

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Serial killers, including Manson, Gein, Bundy, Dahmer and Gacy are simply mentally ill. They definitely need to be locked up to protect society, but killing them is simply an act of revenge for those that want it.

Closet liberal.

Its disheartening to be accused of having a mental disorder like liberalism, especially since I worked so hard to achieve credibility, common sense and dignity which they lack.

You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

[Andy9o8 2]

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Serial killers, including Manson, Gein, Bundy, Dahmer and Gacy are simply mentally ill. They definitely need to be locked up to protect society, but killing them is simply an act of revenge for those that want it.

Closet liberal.

Its disheartening to be accused of having a mental disorder like liberalism, especially since I worked so hard to achieve credibility, common sense and dignity which they lack.

Accordingly, you should be compassionately locked up to protect real conservatives.

[TrophyHusband 0]

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in general, human life is more important than animal life. is every human life unequivocally more important than any animal? of course not.

Will you provide an example of a situation involving both a human and an animal in which you would be more concerned with the protection of the animal?

someone breaks into my house. at that point, my dog's life is worth more than his.

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[shropshire 0]

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Please explain.

Yes, because they are animals. They are here to serve Man not to be served by Man. They do not have a soul. They are not held accountable.

Sorry Ron but I can't agree with any part of you post.

Man is an animal too.

"They are not here to serve us"

I'm not convinced that even we have a soul.

and likewise I'm not convinced by the accountability bit either.



We were not (I believe) put on this planet but evolved as did everything else and the process has been helped along by the consumption of proteins in the form of other animals...
Man uses the rest of the animal kingdom and not always in the best or honourable way(s).
I have no problems with killing for food but detest killing for sport.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[shropshire 0]

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Yes, unfortunately fanatics who put animals and trees before people don't agree that they were put here for our use.

I don't believe that they were PUT here - am I a fanatic?

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If they were not, then just the laws of nature deem that its survival of the fittest and they are not.

I agree with the survival of the fittest bit ... so don't feel too bad if you are bested by a bear or similar, if you enter into there reach. The bear wont have done anything wrong and will hopefully get a rather nice meal out of you.

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I don't believe in abusing these gifts and they should be protected to a degree, but we come first.

Gifts? Gifts from where or whom? They have just eveolved differentky from us. We're all just aniumals, beasts - just some are more beastly than others.

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[kallend 2,150]

If a poacher was about to shoot the last breeding pair of (black rhinos, giant pandas, white tigers, insert other species here) and the only way to stop him was to shoot him, then shoot him.

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