billvon 3,176 #26 January 6, 2010 >Yeah, I can hardly get any news on the flight 253 underwear >bomber because all the coverage is about muslims all over the world >roundly and vocally condemning him. They have been, but since that doesn't fit most people's preconceptions, it doesn't get reported much. If it bleeds, it leads - and people condemning criminals isn't all that bloody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #27 January 6, 2010 Quote>Yeah, I can hardly get any news on the flight 253 underwear >bomber because all the coverage is about muslims all over the world >roundly and vocally condemning him. They have been, but since that doesn't fit most people's preconceptions, it doesn't get reported much. If it bleeds, it leads - and people condemning criminals isn't all that bloody. So exactly where have you seen muslims roundly and vocally condemning terrorist actions? Soap boxes in town squares around the world? And if they aren't getting news coverage, it has nothing to do with "most people's preconceptions". News directors decide what makes the news, so you must mean "most news directors preconceptions.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #28 January 7, 2010 >So exactly where have you seen muslims roundly and vocally >condemning terrorist actions? In their press releases that no one (certainly not you) reads. ====== Michigan Muslims condemn jet attack Posted on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM SOUTHFIELD, Mich. (AP) — Muslim leaders in Michigan are condemning the failed attempt to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas, calling it a violation of the spirit of Islam. ====== East London mosque condemns Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent Published: 7:30AM GMT 29 Dec 2009 The East London Mosque secretary, Ayub Khan, said that it was appalled by Abdulmutallab's alleged attempts to blow up a plane on its way to Detroit. Associates of the 23-year-old Nigerian said that he visited the East London Mosque, in Whitechapel. MI5 believe that the suspect could have developed links with other extremists during three years he spent in Britain studying at University College London. They will investigate where he worshipped and whether he was radicialised in the UK or elsewhere. =========== NSCIA, other Moslem groups condemn attempted terror attack No Al-Qaeda group in Nigeria, say clerics VARIOUS Islamic organisations in Nigeria, including the Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) and the Assembly of Moslems in Nigeria (AMIN) yesterday joined in condemning the alleged deeds of the Nigerian terror suspect, Farouk Umar Abdulmutallab, who, on Christmas day, attempted to blow up a United States airliner. The Islamic groups rejected the association of the youth with the religion of Islam, insisting that Islam is a religion of peace. They argued that the motive and deeds of the young Mutallab should be viewed in isolation. ============== That enough? If not, google the phrase "muslims condemn Abdulmutallab." 17,600 hits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #29 January 7, 2010 Quote That may be your opinion, but dogma of some Christian denominations seems to differ. I have a certificate from a few weeks after I was born stating very clearly that I was a baptized member of a Christian church. I do not believe I was consulted about this. Don't be concerned. There is no Scriptural justification or authority for or with infant baptism. You are off the hook.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 January 7, 2010 QuoteI don't think he's a dick at all. Ted Haggard, for example, could have some excellent advice for Tiger in terms of who to turn to in his time of need. Buddhism doesn't offer those kinds of bonuses. Maybe he could go have a couple prayer meetings with the REVvvvrend Jesse Jackson.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #31 January 7, 2010 Quote>You mean like the islamic extremists who believe poeple who won't >convert to Islam must be killed? Yep. And the Christian extremists who feel it is their religious obligation to kill doctors, and the Tamil (atheist) extremists who feel that killing is a good way to solve their problems. All pretty much dicks. The Tamil are Hindus... http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1869501,00.html QuoteThe Tigers — which include 5,000 to 10,000 guerillas — are fighting to secede from the the island country of Sri Lanka. Tamils originally immigrated to Sri Lanka from southern India and make up 10 to 15% of the population, compared to the majority Sinhalese, who constitute about 75%. In 1972, the Sinhalese-controlled Sri Lankan government declared Sinhala and Buddhism the official language and religion. The Tamils, who practice Hinduism and have their own language, took this action as an affront, and Vellupillai Prabhakaran founded the Tigers soon after. The group is formally known as the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). (See pictures of Sri Lanka on the brink of civil war in 2006) Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #32 January 7, 2010 Quote Quote the practice of metta, loving kindness, is essential in Buddhism. Would this love and kindness also include your wife...or just the mistresses? This means that Tiger is an overachiever or just liked giving the bonus plan. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #33 January 7, 2010 >The Tamil are Hindus... Hmm. From Conservopedia (the conservative "trustworthy encyclopedia"): ====================== Atheism and terrorism From Conservapedia There has been a connection between Atheism and terrorism over history. Many argue that Darwinism and the idea of the "survival of the fittest", has inspired racism, Nazism, communism and terrorism. Robert Pape of the University of Chicago points out that the Tamil Tigers, a Sri Lankan terrorist group who are responsible for more suicide bombings over the last two decades than even Al Quaeda, are heavily influenced by a Marxist/Leninist ideology which is atheistic. Many atheist despots of the 20th century, namely Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong can be accused of terrorist acts in their attempt to create a religion-free utopia. Those three atheists alone murdered more than 100 million people. ====================== Searching through less-amusing sources, I can't find anything that indicates that the LTTE (the terrorist organization referred to as the Tamil Tigers) is anything other than a completely secular government/organization. Most Tamils are indeed Hindu, but as you know that does not make any organization they belong to Hindu. But in any case, if the Tamil extremists who kill people are Hindus, then they are dicks as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #34 January 7, 2010 Quote >So exactly where have you seen muslims roundly and vocally >condemning terrorist actions? In their press releases that no one (certainly not you) reads. ====== Michigan Muslims condemn jet attack Posted on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM SOUTHFIELD, Mich. (AP) — Muslim leaders in Michigan are condemning the failed attempt to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas, calling it a violation of the spirit of Islam. ====== East London mosque condemns Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent Published: 7:30AM GMT 29 Dec 2009 The East London Mosque secretary, Ayub Khan, said that it was appalled by Abdulmutallab's alleged attempts to blow up a plane on its way to Detroit. Associates of the 23-year-old Nigerian said that he visited the East London Mosque, in Whitechapel. MI5 believe that the suspect could have developed links with other extremists during three years he spent in Britain studying at University College London. They will investigate where he worshipped and whether he was radicialised in the UK or elsewhere. =========== NSCIA, other Moslem groups condemn attempted terror attack No Al-Qaeda group in Nigeria, say clerics VARIOUS Islamic organisations in Nigeria, including the Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) and the Assembly of Moslems in Nigeria (AMIN) yesterday joined in condemning the alleged deeds of the Nigerian terror suspect, Farouk Umar Abdulmutallab, who, on Christmas day, attempted to blow up a United States airliner. The Islamic groups rejected the association of the youth with the religion of Islam, insisting that Islam is a religion of peace. They argued that the motive and deeds of the young Mutallab should be viewed in isolation. ============== That enough? If not, google the phrase "muslims condemn Abdulmutallab." 17,600 hits. Well that was certainly eye-opening. I'll be sure to treat the terrorists nice now. Maybe they'll kill me last.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #35 January 7, 2010 Quote Quote >So exactly where have you seen muslims roundly and vocally >condemning terrorist actions? In their press releases that no one (certainly not you) reads. ====== Michigan Muslims condemn jet attack Posted on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM SOUTHFIELD, Mich. (AP) — Muslim leaders in Michigan are condemning the failed attempt to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas, calling it a violation of the spirit of Islam. ====== East London mosque condemns Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent Published: 7:30AM GMT 29 Dec 2009 The East London Mosque secretary, Ayub Khan, said that it was appalled by Abdulmutallab's alleged attempts to blow up a plane on its way to Detroit. Associates of the 23-year-old Nigerian said that he visited the East London Mosque, in Whitechapel. MI5 believe that the suspect could have developed links with other extremists during three years he spent in Britain studying at University College London. They will investigate where he worshipped and whether he was radicialised in the UK or elsewhere. =========== NSCIA, other Moslem groups condemn attempted terror attack No Al-Qaeda group in Nigeria, say clerics VARIOUS Islamic organisations in Nigeria, including the Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) and the Assembly of Moslems in Nigeria (AMIN) yesterday joined in condemning the alleged deeds of the Nigerian terror suspect, Farouk Umar Abdulmutallab, who, on Christmas day, attempted to blow up a United States airliner. The Islamic groups rejected the association of the youth with the religion of Islam, insisting that Islam is a religion of peace. They argued that the motive and deeds of the young Mutallab should be viewed in isolation. ============== That enough? If not, google the phrase "muslims condemn Abdulmutallab." 17,600 hits. Well that was certainly eye-opening. I'll be sure to treat the terrorists nice now. Maybe they'll kill me last. Reading problem there, Chuck? You treat terrorists as terrorists. You treat the other 99.99% of Muslims, Christians, Hindus, atheists, etc., nice.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #36 January 7, 2010 Quote Quote Quote >So exactly where have you seen muslims roundly and vocally >condemning terrorist actions? In their press releases that no one (certainly not you) reads. ====== Michigan Muslims condemn jet attack Posted on December 29, 2009 at 8:01 PM SOUTHFIELD, Mich. (AP) — Muslim leaders in Michigan are condemning the failed attempt to blow up a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas, calling it a violation of the spirit of Islam. ====== East London mosque condemns Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab By Richard Edwards, Crime Correspondent Published: 7:30AM GMT 29 Dec 2009 The East London Mosque secretary, Ayub Khan, said that it was appalled by Abdulmutallab's alleged attempts to blow up a plane on its way to Detroit. Associates of the 23-year-old Nigerian said that he visited the East London Mosque, in Whitechapel. MI5 believe that the suspect could have developed links with other extremists during three years he spent in Britain studying at University College London. They will investigate where he worshipped and whether he was radicialised in the UK or elsewhere. =========== NSCIA, other Moslem groups condemn attempted terror attack No Al-Qaeda group in Nigeria, say clerics VARIOUS Islamic organisations in Nigeria, including the Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) and the Assembly of Moslems in Nigeria (AMIN) yesterday joined in condemning the alleged deeds of the Nigerian terror suspect, Farouk Umar Abdulmutallab, who, on Christmas day, attempted to blow up a United States airliner. The Islamic groups rejected the association of the youth with the religion of Islam, insisting that Islam is a religion of peace. They argued that the motive and deeds of the young Mutallab should be viewed in isolation. ============== That enough? If not, google the phrase "muslims condemn Abdulmutallab." 17,600 hits. Well that was certainly eye-opening. I'll be sure to treat the terrorists nice now. Maybe they'll kill me last. Reading problem there, Chuck? You treat terrorists as terrorists. You treat the other 99.99% of Muslims, Christians, Hindus, atheists, etc., nice. Nope, no reading problem at all. And you're right, we should treat terrorist as terrorists and treat everyone else nicely. The trick is figuring out which is which. Good luck with that.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites