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Still the snark:D



If you paid attention instead of name calling you might be a more effective debater.


And if you would have first pointed out where (you think) I missed the point instead of being a damned smart ass we would not be here would we[:/]

My point showed your same lame point could be used against your many times stated position

You hate when your own shit is used against you huh


Read the thread, Marc, instead of hurling insults, then maybe you WILL get the point.



Dont like the insults???? Then dont start with them

Of course, you most likely think "wake up" is a kind and nurturing comment meant only to enhance the conversation:S


Did you figure it out yet?
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Still waiting for you to expand on expand on "thanks to people like you, the so-called "restrictive" guns laws are so absurdly easy to circumvent that they might as well not exist.

Man up and say your mind.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Still waiting for you to expand on expand on "thanks to people like you, the so-called "restrictive" guns laws are so absurdly easy to circumvent that they might as well not exist.

Man up and say your mind.



Just think about it, Ron. THINK.
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Still waiting for you to expand on expand on "thanks to people like you, the so-called "restrictive" guns laws are so absurdly easy to circumvent that they might as well not exist.

Man up and say your mind.



The only time he even came close to manning up he messed up (for him) and spelled his position which basicly was a gun ban (even though he said it was not) He got flammed:D:D:D

Doubt he will ever give a clear positon on anything ever again. Which is little or no change for him
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Still waiting for you to expand on expand on "thanks to people like you, the so-called "restrictive" guns laws are so absurdly easy to circumvent that they might as well not exist.

Man up and say your mind.



There is only one interpretation. Everyone agrees that
restrictive gun laws do not work. They only affect law-abiding
citizens, not criminals.

Any further such valueless laws will have no effect except to disarm
the non-criminal public. Therefore, no more should
be passed and most should be repealed.

I am glad that we can all agree on this.

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Still waiting for you to expand on expand on "thanks to people like you, the so-called "restrictive" guns laws are so absurdly easy to circumvent that they might as well not exist.

Man up and say your mind.



There is only one interpretation. Everyone agrees that
restrictive gun laws do not work. They only affect law-abiding
citizens, not criminals.

Any further such valueless laws will have no effect except to disarm
the non-criminal public. Therefore, no more should
be passed and most should be repealed.

I am glad that we can all agree on this.



Correct. Valueless laws should be repealed. Then they can be replaced with laws that do a better job of preventing criminals and loonies from obtaining weapons.
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Just think about it, Ron. THINK.



wow... I quit using that non-argument in Jr High.



Stopped thinking too? My position is quite clear.



Yes, when you state it outright it is. And when looked at up close, it amounts to a near ban senario
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Just think about it, Ron. THINK.



wow... I quit using that non-argument in Jr High.



Stopped thinking too? My position is quite clear.



Yes, when you state it outright it is. And when looked at up close, it amounts to a near ban senario




If preventing criminals and loonies getting guns amounts to "a near ban" you have a very poor view of your fellow Americans, you ELITIST you.
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Just think about it, Ron. THINK.



wow... I quit using that non-argument in Jr High.


Stopped thinking too? My position is quite clear.


Yes, when you state it outright it is. And when looked at up close, it amounts to a near ban senario



If preventing criminals and loonies getting guns amounts to "a near ban" you have a very poor view of your fellow Americans, you ELITIST you.


And today YOU win back the "Mr Twister" award:)
Congrats
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Just think about it, Ron. THINK.



wow... I quit using that non-argument in Jr High.


Stopped thinking too? My position is quite clear.


Yes, when you state it outright it is. And when looked at up close, it amounts to a near ban senario



If preventing criminals and loonies getting guns amounts to "a near ban" you have a very poor view of your fellow Americans, you ELITIST you.


And today YOU win back the "Mr Twister" award:)
Congrats


Maybe you should think BEFORE you type garbage.
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Just think about it, Ron. THINK.



wow... I quit using that non-argument in Jr High.


Stopped thinking too? My position is quite clear.


Yes, when you state it outright it is. And when looked at up close, it amounts to a near ban senario



If preventing criminals and loonies getting guns amounts to "a near ban" you have a very poor view of your fellow Americans, you ELITIST you.


And today YOU win back the "Mr Twister" award:)
Congrats


Maybe you should think BEFORE you type garbage.


You are pro ban
You have as much as admitted it
Then, you go back into your less than direct posts, snide comments, off topic misdirects and indicating others are less than up to date than you
Then you tell others to think before they type??

Priceless:D:D
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Just think about it, Ron. THINK.



wow... I quit using that non-argument in Jr High.


Stopped thinking too? My position is quite clear.


Yes, when you state it outright it is. And when looked at up close, it amounts to a near ban senario



If preventing criminals and loonies getting guns amounts to "a near ban" you have a very poor view of your fellow Americans, you ELITIST you.


And today YOU win back the "Mr Twister" award:)
Congrats


Maybe you should think BEFORE you type garbage.


You are pro ban
You have as much as admitted it


Link, please.
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Just think about it, Ron. THINK.



wow... I quit using that non-argument in Jr High.



Stopped thinking too? My position is quite clear.



the "think about it" argument. Basically asking someone to figure out what argument you're trying to make. Hoping they come up with one better than what you scraped together.
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Just think about it, Ron. THINK.



wow... I quit using that non-argument in Jr High.



Stopped thinking too? My position is quite clear.



the "think about it" argument. Basically asking someone to figure out what argument you're trying to make. Hoping they come up with one better than what you scraped together.



I had already explained it to anyone that bothered to read BEFORE giving a knee jerk response.
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There is only one interpretation. Everyone agrees that restrictive gun laws do not work. They only affect law-abiding citizens, not criminals.

Any further such valueless laws will have no effect except to disarm the non-criminal public. Therefore, no more should be passed and most should be repealed.



I think what happythoughts posted here is one of the best things said in this entire thread.

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Correct. Valueless laws should be repealed. Then they can be replaced with laws that do a better job of preventing criminals and loonies from obtaining weapons.



Kallend if you are not against "banning" please elaborate more on how you think the laws can be better replaced. Most people will agree that we don't want mentally unstable people shooting up places where we live and work, but there seems no easy solution when you take the "red" pill and the "blue" pill is artificial bliss.

Historically I was anti-gun (what can I say I was brainwashed by Canadian Liberals), but then thanks to some gun debates I have had here I became gun neutral. However lately I find myself becoming more open to firearms (I did actually get to shoot them when I was briefly in Canada's military back in the 1980s, so it's not like I don't have some exposure to them). Obviously if you bring a gun to a fist fight, shit is going to turn out bad.

In light of what is happening around the world, we are finding ourselves repeating what happened in the 1920s and 1930s and if we are not careful we will find ourselves back in the same crap the world was in during the early 1940s. I am sorry when the [insert whatever you want to call them] come knocking at my door to tell me I no longer live there, while I may find myself out gunned I am not planning on going quietly.

If defending oneself from oppression and tyranny makes me a loony, then lets get the party going with some "Loony Tunes". There is no shortage of times in history when people who could not defend themselves were prey upon by those who where there to be aggressive.


Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

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I had already explained it to anyone that bothered to read BEFORE giving a knee jerk response.



guilty.

I don't bother to read much beyond 2 or 3 lines of your posts. Either ADD is in high gear, or you're just not interesting enough lately.
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Just think about it, Ron. THINK.



Again, man up and say what you mean. With a guy as educated as you... You should be able to find the words to back your statement.

So, please expand on what you meant by "People like you".

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I had already explained it to anyone that bothered to read BEFORE giving a knee jerk response.



No, I asked you to expand your accusation and you replied to me with "THINK!"
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Correct. Valueless laws should be repealed.



Yes.

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Then they can be replaced with laws that do a better job of preventing criminals and loonies from obtaining weapons.



Yes... Now, how do you propose identifying the "loonies"? And are you willing to have those SAME restrictions applied to other things like pilots licenses?
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Now, how do you propose identifying the "loonies"? And are you willing to have those SAME restrictions applied to other things like pilots licenses?



No need to worry. Pretty soon under the UN's Agenda 21 treaty Obama is heading towards signing, general aviation will be deemed as Economically Unsustainable and all private aircraft will be seized and destroyed. BASE Jumping will be the only parachuting sport and violators who leave the high density human controlled zones will likely be arrested and/or shot.

Sounds a little far fetched? Maybe ... but anyone who agrees to give up their freedom in order to satisfy the UN's Agenda 21 is asking for this type of world.


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Correct. Valueless laws should be repealed. Then they can be replaced with laws that do a better job of preventing criminals and loonies from obtaining weapons.



And how are they going to that - run every potential gun purchaser past your handy "future crime" machine?
Mike
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