SOS: Support Our SEALs!

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Jared Law December 26 at 6:25pm Reply

Fellow U.S. Navy SEAL supporters,

I hope all of you fellow had a Merry Christmas, and here's to a Happy New Year, where America protects our special forces troops with the best equipment, training, and support, not to mention protecting our boys from our own government!

Thanks to all who have, and who are currently serving; you're in our prayers!

Please don't forget to PRAY for those who selflessly put themselves in harm's way to defend our liberty, including the U.S. Navy SEALs under attack by our tyrannical government! Also, please don't forget to PRAY for AMERICA, and for all of the rest of our Special Forces, for all of our Military Forces, and for the families of those who serve!

Please also don't forget to do the following:

1) Join our group on The 9.12 Project Network: http://www.the912project.us/group/SOS

2) Join the U.S. Military Group on The 9.12 Project Network:
http://www.the912project.us/group/usmilitary

3) Call your representatives in Washington and demand they stand up and take a leadership role to protect our U.S. Navy SEALs from the BHO administration, and to investigate whoever made the decision to prosecute these U.S. Navy SEALs!

4) Be prepared in your own local area, and get involved in local politics. Do you know who your State Representative, State Senator, your Sheriff, and other local elected officials are? Do you know your voting precinct? What are your plans to get more involved, so your voice is heard, locally and nationally? Please don't forget to join your state group on The 9.12 Project Network: http://www.the912project.us

Thanks!

Jared Law

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SEALs under attack by our tyrannical government!

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So, uh, who's being prosecuted and for what ? I realize we won't hear anything about this in the, uh, liberal news media, but since I don't listen to the right wingnuts either, maybe a little background info might be in order........

I mean ordinarily a prosecution of the military at the behest of the POTUS should make at least page 3, even in a liberal fishwrap....

And by the way, I do support the SEALS, my old high school girlfriend's son is a SEAL.

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[kallend 2,184]

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So, uh, who's being prosecuted and for what ? I realize we won't hear anything about this in the, uh, liberal news media, but since I don't listen to the right wingnuts either, maybe a little background info might be in order........

I mean ordinarily a prosecution of the military at the behest of the POTUS should make at least page 3, even in a liberal fishwrap....

And by the way, I do support the SEALS, my old high school girlfriend's son is a SEAL.

www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3760027#3760027

I guess the conservatives don't trust the military to conduct a fair trial.

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So, uh, who's being prosecuted and for what ? I realize we won't hear anything about this in the, uh, liberal news media, but since I don't listen to the right wingnuts either, maybe a little background info might be in order........

I mean ordinarily a prosecution of the military at the behest of the POTUS should make at least page 3, even in a liberal fishwrap....

And by the way, I do support the SEALS, my old high school girlfriend's son is a SEAL.

www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3760027#3760027

I guess the conservatives don't trust the military to conduct a fair trial.

I really would hate to be the prisoner of many of the posters to SC from the fringe right. They seem to be at a loss for the discipline that the military used to teach our airmen, troops, sailors, or marines. Some seem to be living in a perpetual world of blood lust.

Our military HAVE to play by far different rules in a war zone. But in this case it is completely stupid to prosecute the SEALS but our people have to realize that the only way to win a war of this type is to be better than those who attack us in the war zone. COIN relys on hearts and minds... if we can't win those.. then we might as well come home and just nuke them all from space...its the only way to be sure.

And Bill.. I am a civilian... and wish to harm those civilians who attacked us in just the same way that our people died by the thousands, but that is just me... I know this enemy... and since they live by the eye for an eye credo.... so be it.

[nanook 1]

If you are talking about the SEALs that are going to Courts Martial about the events pre-Fallujah, The guys requested the Courts martial themselves. They were going to get a NJP based on just what the prisoner said. They didn't like that a mark would exist in their record without an ability to defend themselves.

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Hi Gypsy,
You have a big 10-4 on that. Already on it. Got mail to reps and senators. state house too. Funny how that goes, some prisoner says,"He hit me!!" and now the guys (SEALS) are on the pad?? They all say,"He hit me!!" only why are these SEALS getting singled out?? I don't know if this is an Obama thing or what but something real fishy is going on here!! Sooner or later it'll come out in the wash, who'll get the book deal??

SCR-2034, SCS-680

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So, uh, who's being prosecuted and for what ? I realize we won't hear anything about this in the, uh, liberal news media, but since I don't listen to the right wingnuts either, maybe a little background info might be in order........

I mean ordinarily a prosecution of the military at the behest of the POTUS should make at least page 3, even in a liberal fishwrap....

And by the way, I do support the SEALS, my old high school girlfriend's son is a SEAL.

WHERE da fuck you been hiding your head? This has been Page one for more than a week!

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If you are talking about the SEALs that are going to Courts Martial about the events pre-Fallujah, The guys requested the Courts martial themselves. They were going to get a NJP based on just what the prisoner said. They didn't like that a mark would exist in their record without an ability to defend themselves.

My gawd, another head in the sander!

[nanook 1]

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My gawd, another head in the sander!

You mind telling me what you are implying here?

You put out this cheezy website that reminds me of the KWANZAA of the super right and a link to the SOS which looks like a shell game for said website. Seriously, you want to support Frogs? Why don't you donate to the NSW Foundation, which is tax deductible while political campaigns like this one isn't. There are other donations you can do to the familys of fallen warriors also.

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If you are talking about the SEALs that are going to Courts Martial about the events pre-Fallujah, The guys requested the Courts martial themselves. They were going to get a NJP based on just what the prisoner said. They didn't like that a mark would exist in their record without an ability to defend themselves.

My gawd, another head in the sander!

Yes, because I know that I and my fellow military commanders get daily calls from the White House on who we should and shouldn't hit with non-judicial punishment.

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If you are talking about the SEALs that are going to Courts Martial about the events pre-Fallujah, The guys requested the Courts martial themselves. They were going to get a NJP based on just what the prisoner said. They didn't like that a mark would exist in their record without an ability to defend themselves.

Thanks for the clarifying information. Appreciated.

/Marg

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[DJL 235]

Sorry to say but we all just need to let the legal system take it's course. You can't just mob rule your way through this. This isn't the first time the court has seen a chump with a busted lip cry wolf.

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[rushmc 23]

AP reports today one has been cleared of all charges


http://newsmax.com/Newsfront/ML-Iraq-SEAL-Trial/2010/04/22/id/356510

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 3]

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AP reports today one has been cleared of all charges


http://newsmax.com/Newsfront/ML-Iraq-SEAL-Trial/2010/04/22/id/356510

Just a point of clarification: acquittal for 1 of 3 defendants. The other 2 still await their respective courts-martial.

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The court-martial of Petty Officer 2nd Class Jonathan Keefe, of Yorktown, Virginia, who is also charged with dereliction of duty on allegations he failed to safeguard the prisoner, is scheduled to begin Friday also at Camp Victory.

Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, of Perrysburg, Ohio, the SEAL charged with assaulting Abed, is scheduled to be court-martialed May 3 in Virginia, where the three men are based.

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AP reports today one has been cleared of all charges


http://newsmax.com/Newsfront/ML-Iraq-SEAL-Trial/2010/04/22/id/356510

Just a point of clarification: acquittal for 1 of 3 defendants. The other 2 still await their respective courts-martial.

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The court-martial of Petty Officer 2nd Class Jonathan Keefe, of Yorktown, Virginia, who is also charged with dereliction of duty on allegations he failed to safeguard the prisoner, is scheduled to begin Friday also at Camp Victory.

Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, of Perrysburg, Ohio, the SEAL charged with assaulting Abed, is scheduled to be court-martialed May 3 in Virginia, where the three men are based.

Ya
I modified my post but you are right
One of the three
Good start but is it a shame they are being put through this to begin with

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,133]

>Good start but is it a shame they are being put through this to begin with

Why? They're just people like anyone else. Some are good, some bad - and there's nothing wrong with prosecuting the bad ones when they commit crimes. (Or rewarding them when they do a good job.)

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>Good start but is it a shame they are being put through this to begin with

Why? They're just people like anyone else. Some are good, some bad - and there's nothing wrong with prosecuting the bad ones when they commit crimes. (Or rewarding them when they do a good job.)

Although I see your point.......

If based on what is known you have to ask why, the reasons would not matter to you anyway

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Good start but is it a shame they are being put through this to begin with

Why? They're just people like anyone else. Some are good, some bad - and there's nothing wrong with prosecuting the bad ones when they commit crimes. (Or rewarding them when they do a good job.)

Do you believe that charges of abuse and dereliction of duty were warranted in this case?

[Skyrad 0]

If ther're innocent (as one has been found to be so far) then that will out. Iraq was invaded apparently because Sadam did not adheare to international law, yet some would make the SEALS and other forces above the law. Bollocks.
Try them and if their innocent clear them, if they're guilty then let the law take its course.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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[rushmc 23]

Guess you think this is carrying out justice?

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Neal Puckett, a defense attorney who is representing McCabe, said the SEALs are being essentially charged for allegedly giving the detainee “a punch in the gut.”

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/11/UPnavy_seals_charged_112409w/

Sorry, I dont

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Skyrad 0]

Thats the great thing about law, its not about what you or I think, its about what is or is not an infringment of law. Justice is simply the outcome of due legal process in a democratic state.

If he did it then he deserve to be punished for being caught doing it.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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[rushmc 23]

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Thats the great thing about law, its not about what you or I think, its about what is or is not an infringment of law. Justice is simply the outcome of due legal process in a democratic state.

If he did it then he deserve to be punished for being caught doing it.

In your simplistic explination, yes, I agree

but in some cases the process is abused to make political points

I believe this is one of those cases

This is an example of the bad. Someone or some organization that/who use the law process for something other than its purpose

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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In your simplistic explination, yes, I agree

but in some cases the process is abused to make political points

I believe this is one of those cases

So exactly which organization or political person/entity orchestrated this in your opinion?

Who was it that told the detainee to complain, then told the superior to give them what amounts to a written warning, and then convinced the SEALS to ask to be courts martial?

That's a lot of strings and the cooperation of people exactly opposed to the political agenda of whatever group or person orchestrated this.

Any publicity that came from this is due to the fact the SEALS asked to be courts martial. If they had not taken that action, there would have been absolutely no media attention to this situation.

Hence, if in this case the process is being abused to make political points, it can only have come from the right wing.