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QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote-(-1) = +1
-(-tax) = +tax
Time for a new dictionary. Credit != tax, *especially* when it has to be repaid.
Did you really not understand what Kallend wrote?
Apparently he has a hard time with "-" signs.
So you are agreeing with the fact that an Earned Income Credit is actually a penalty for not having more kids and a low paying job.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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jcd11235 0
QuoteSo, what part did I mischaracterize?
See post #251 in this thread.
Quote[M]y statement that insurance isn't required if you don't use the car on public roads is false?
Yes, it is false w/r/t Florida law. A registered vehicle must be insured, even if it remains on private property.
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mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteSo, what part did I mischaracterize?
See post #251 in this thread.Quote[M]y statement that insurance isn't required if you don't use the car on public roads is false?
Yes, it is false w/r/t Florida law. A registered vehicle must be insured, even if it remains on private property.
Is registration (and therefore insurance) required if the vehicle never leaves private property?
Mike
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kallend 2,148
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote-(-1) = +1
-(-tax) = +tax
Time for a new dictionary. Credit != tax, *especially* when it has to be repaid.
Did you really not understand what Kallend wrote?
Apparently he has a hard time with "-" signs.
So you are agreeing with the fact that an Earned Income Credit is actually a penalty for not having more kids and a low paying job.
Staying relevant to this discussion, I pay a lot more tax than I would if I owned a home and had a mortgage. So it appears I am indeed penalized by the government, in the form of extra tax, for not buying a home.
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jcd11235 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteSo, what part did I mischaracterize?
See post #251 in this thread.Quote[M]y statement that insurance isn't required if you don't use the car on public roads is false?
Yes, it is false w/r/t Florida law. A registered vehicle must be insured, even if it remains on private property.
Is registration (and therefore insurance) required if the vehicle never leaves private property?
No. But, not all registered vehicles are driven on public roads, yet they still require insurance according to state law, making your assertion false w/r/t Florida law.
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mnealtx 0
QuoteStaying relevant to this discussion, I pay a lot more tax than I would if I owned a home and had a mortgage. So it appears I am indeed penalized by the government, in the form of extra tax, for not buying a home.
"Appearances are misleading."
Mike
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mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo, what part did I mischaracterize?
See post #251 in this thread.Quote[M]y statement that insurance isn't required if you don't use the car on public roads is false?
Yes, it is false w/r/t Florida law. A registered vehicle must be insured, even if it remains on private property.
Is registration (and therefore insurance) required if the vehicle never leaves private property?
No. But, not all registered vehicles are driven on public roads, yet they still require insurance according to state law, making your assertion false w/r/t Florida law.
Circular logic.
Mike
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jcd11235 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo, what part did I mischaracterize?
See post #251 in this thread.Quote[M]y statement that insurance isn't required if you don't use the car on public roads is false?
Yes, it is false w/r/t Florida law. A registered vehicle must be insured, even if it remains on private property.
Is registration (and therefore insurance) required if the vehicle never leaves private property?
No. But, not all registered vehicles are driven on public roads, yet they still require insurance according to state law, making your assertion false w/r/t Florida law.
Circular logic.
How so? (Hint: It isn't.)
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kallend 2,148
QuoteQuoteStaying relevant to this discussion, I pay a lot more tax than I would if I owned a home and had a mortgage. So it appears I am indeed penalized by the government, in the form of extra tax, for not buying a home.
"Appearances are misleading."
The IRS doesn't buy that excuse. I DO have to pay pay additional tax because I don't own a home.
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mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteStaying relevant to this discussion, I pay a lot more tax than I would if I owned a home and had a mortgage. So it appears I am indeed penalized by the government, in the form of extra tax, for not buying a home.
"Appearances are misleading."
The IRS doesn't buy that excuse. I DO have to pay pay additional tax because I don't own a home.
You can make up all KINDS of "taxes" that you supposedly pay if you use enough lame examples - none of which are codified, amazingly enough.
Mike
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kallend 2,148
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteStaying relevant to this discussion, I pay a lot more tax than I would if I owned a home and had a mortgage. So it appears I am indeed penalized by the government, in the form of extra tax, for not buying a home.
"Appearances are misleading."
The IRS doesn't buy that excuse. I DO have to pay pay additional tax because I don't own a home.
You can make up all KINDS of "taxes" that you supposedly pay if you use enough lame examples - none of which are codified, amazingly enough.
Are you now claiming that IRS Schedule A, Form 5405, and form 1040 aren't codified?
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
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Quote>Hypothetically - I can be a packer for a DZ making cash money - not
>paying any taxes because on paper I don't work. In the process of
>packing I get hurt. I go to the doctor and get a bill for 10000. I have
>contributed nothing in the way of taxes. BUT you are now stuck with
> my bill and it is now everyone else's duty and responsibility to pay
>for my injury.
You're right - this is both unfair and the way it works now. What's your proposal to change this?
to bad the health care bill doesn't address this either.
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteStaying relevant to this discussion, I pay a lot more tax than I would if I owned a home and had a mortgage. So it appears I am indeed penalized by the government, in the form of extra tax, for not buying a home.
"Appearances are misleading."
The IRS doesn't buy that excuse. I DO have to pay pay additional tax because I don't own a home.
You can make up all KINDS of "taxes" that you supposedly pay if you use enough lame examples - none of which are codified, amazingly enough.
Are you now claiming that IRS Schedule A, Form 5405, and form 1040 aren't codified?
Oddly enough, I can't find anywhere that 5405 mentions a TAX on people who don't own a home.
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
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turtlespeed 226
QuoteQuoteQuoteStaying relevant to this discussion, I pay a lot more tax than I would if I owned a home and had a mortgage. So it appears I am indeed penalized by the government, in the form of extra tax, for not buying a home.
"Appearances are misleading."
The IRS doesn't buy that excuse. I DO have to pay pay additional tax because I don't own a home.
That is like saying that you have to pay extra at Sears on a tool pouch because you didn't buy it when it was on sale.
The price is what the price is and you may or may not get a discount. it's not a fine if you don't buy it on sale - it is a CREDIT or bonus if you do.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
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rehmwa 2
QuoteThe price is what the price is and you may or may not get a discount. it's not a fine if you don't buy it on sale - it is a CREDIT or bonus if you do.
Sears has a certain profit they have to achieve to be a good business and continue to hire their people and pay their dividends, etc.
If they sell items at a discount to some people, what do you think they have to do to all the rest of their merchandise to cover that discount (if they intend to keep to their budget)?
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turtlespeed 226
QuoteQuoteThe price is what the price is and you may or may not get a discount. it's not a fine if you don't buy it on sale - it is a CREDIT or bonus if you do.
Sears has a certain profit they have to achieve to be a good business and continue to hire their people and pay their dividends, etc.
If they sell items at a discount to some people, what do you think they have to do to all the rest of their merchandise to cover that discount (if they intend to keep to their budget)?
Perhaps you could explain the relevance to the subject.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
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rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote-(-1) = +1
-(-tax) = +tax
Time for a new dictionary. Credit != tax, *especially* when it has to be repaid.
Did you really not understand what Kallend wrote?
Apparently he has a hard time with "-" signs.
So you are agreeing with the fact that an Earned Income Credit is actually a penalty for not having more kids and a low paying job.
Staying relevant to this discussion, I pay a lot more tax than I would if I owned a home and had a mortgage. So it appears I am indeed penalized by the government, in the form of extra tax, for not buying a home.
Sucks to be you
By the way, are you whining?"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo, what part did I mischaracterize?
See post #251 in this thread.Quote[M]y statement that insurance isn't required if you don't use the car on public roads is false?
Yes, it is false w/r/t Florida law. A registered vehicle must be insured, even if it remains on private property.
Is registration (and therefore insurance) required if the vehicle never leaves private property?
No. But, not all registered vehicles are driven on public roads, yet they still require insurance according to state law, making your assertion false w/r/t Florida law.
Not in Iowa and I really doubt it in FL. If you dont drive on public roads and land how would they enforce it?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
jcd11235 0
QuoteNot in Iowa and I really doubt it in FL.
Well, If you doubt it, that must mean it can't possibly be true.
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turtlespeed 226
QuoteQuoteNot in Iowa and I really doubt it in FL.
Well, If you doubt it, that must mean it can't possibly be true.
Really?
Quote
324.021 Definitions; minimum insurance required.--The following words and phrases when used in this chapter shall, for the purpose of this chapter, have the meanings respectively ascribed to them in this section, except in those instances where the context clearly indicates a different meaning:
(1) MOTOR VEHICLE.--Every self-propelled vehicle which is designed and required to be licensed for use upon a highway, including trailers and semitrailers designed for use with such vehicles, except traction engines, road rollers, farm tractors, power shovels, and well drillers, and every vehicle which is propelled by electric power obtained from overhead wires but not operated upon rails, but not including any bicycle or moped. However, the term "motor vehicle" shall not include any motor vehicle as defined in s. 627.732(3) when the owner of such vehicle has complied with the requirements of ss. 627.730-627.7405, inclusive, unless the provisions of s. 324.051 apply; and, in such case, the applicable proof of insurance provisions of s. 320.02 apply.
OH - and lets not forget this little tid bit -
Quote
320.02 Registration required; application for registration; forms.--
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, every owner or person in charge of a motor vehicle that is operated or driven on the roads of this state shall register the vehicle in this state. The owner or person in charge shall apply to the department or to its authorized agent for registration of each such vehicle on a form prescribed by the department. A registration is not required for any motor vehicle that is not operated on the roads of this state during the registration period.
Are you SURE you know what you are talking about?
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
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jcd11235 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteNot in Iowa and I really doubt it in FL.
Well, If you doubt it, that must mean it can't possibly be true.
Really?Quote
324.021 Definitions; minimum insurance required.--The following words and phrases when used in this chapter shall, for the purpose of this chapter, have the meanings respectively ascribed to them in this section, except in those instances where the context clearly indicates a different meaning:
(1) MOTOR VEHICLE.--Every self-propelled vehicle which is designed and required to be licensed for use upon a highway, including trailers and semitrailers designed for use with such vehicles, except traction engines, road rollers, farm tractors, power shovels, and well drillers, and every vehicle which is propelled by electric power obtained from overhead wires but not operated upon rails, but not including any bicycle or moped. However, the term "motor vehicle" shall not include any motor vehicle as defined in s. 627.732(3) when the owner of such vehicle has complied with the requirements of ss. 627.730-627.7405, inclusive, unless the provisions of s. 324.051 apply; and, in such case, the applicable proof of insurance provisions of s. 320.02 apply.
OH - and lets not forget this little tid bit -Quote
320.02 Registration required; application for registration; forms.--
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, every owner or person in charge of a motor vehicle that is operated or driven on the roads of this state shall register the vehicle in this state. The owner or person in charge shall apply to the department or to its authorized agent for registration of each such vehicle on a form prescribed by the department. A registration is not required for any motor vehicle that is not operated on the roads of this state during the registration period.
Are you SURE you know what you are talking about?
You do realize that neither passage contradicts what I posted, right?
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Actually they only require it to be titled, the requirement is listed under an "Off Highway" legislation.
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