tkhayes 348 #1 December 17, 2009 AP - A man in Florida, rumored to be a DZO by the name of 'TK' who owns many guns, had NOTHING happen. Ever. Despite his lifetime of 'normality' the man was quoted as saying "I never needed a gun to defend myself. Somehow, I always managed to avoid the situations where one might be needed" It was reported that the guns may be locked safely away when not in use and that the man had received extensive firearms training throughout his lifetime. we are watching the situation to see if anything changes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #2 December 17, 2009 +1 Can all of these threads stop now? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #3 December 17, 2009 your post is contradictory. on the one hand you say this man is a dzo, and on the other you say he has led a life of normality. anyone who has been around dzo's knows that these things are mutually exclusive. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #4 December 17, 2009 Couple things wrong with this post. First if you have ever meet TK would you think he has lived a life of "normality".....does even TK think he'd "normal".... I think not I understand his post, from his point of few. Mine would be something along the lines of....."a man from Georgia, has had guns all his life. Has never had any formal training other than his father taking him hunting. Has many many guns in his house. None are under lock and key, one is loaded and within easy reach of his bed, but not visiable. His children have all been taught the same respect he was taught about firearms. He to has never needed a gun. Just two different mindsets. I really don't care how others handle the use or none use of guns. I just want to keep mine. FWIW no one needs a machine gun to defend there house...... Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #5 December 17, 2009 QuoteIt was reported that the guns may be locked safely away when not in use and that the man had received extensive firearms training throughout his lifetime. Witnesses report seeing this man firing at a green trailer parked at a DZ.... Several people at that impromptu range were reported to have been drinking..... More as this story breaks. This reporter has also have extensive firearms training and never needed a gun to defend himself.... It is reported that this reporter has also been able to avoid dangerous situations.... For example when all the drunks were shooting at the trailer, he left the DZ."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #6 December 17, 2009 Just remember, if they are not loaded, they are just expensive paper weights.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #7 December 17, 2009 QuoteFWIW no one needs a machine gun to defend there house...... Communist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #8 December 17, 2009 QuoteFor example when all the drunks were shooting at the trailer, he left the DZ. actually - he participated in the 'shooting of the trailer' from the beginning, right to the very end, including the burning of it, the moving of it to the other huge pile of firewood , the second burning of it and then the final burial of it..... and he might have been drinking too. But that's not really what the thread is about now is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 December 17, 2009 There wasn't a candidate for Congress in that trailer, was there? Just askin'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #10 December 17, 2009 QuoteFWIW no one needs a machine gun to defend there house...... Do you think that the 2nd Amendment is only about defending your home? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #11 December 17, 2009 Quoteactually - he participated in the 'shooting of the trailer' from the beginning, right to the very end, including the burning of it, the moving of it to the other huge pile of firewood , the second burning of it and then the final burial of it..... You may not remember since your were engaged. But, I left when the drunks came out of the woodwork and started shooting. I did see some of the carnage after the cease fire before it was set on fire.... Must admit it was cool. Kinda hard to avoid the place forever since I was living there. But I make it a point to not be around drunks and firearms. You don't seem to have that problem since you created the party. Is that your idea of responsible firearms ownership? Quoteand he might have been drinking too. Those that know me, know I rarely drink. And when I do there are no guns in my control. QuoteBut that's not really what the thread is about now is it? Well YOU claimed: "It was reported that the guns may be locked safely away when not in use and that the man had received extensive firearms training throughout his lifetime. " All the firearms training I have had told me that guns and alcohol don't mix. What training program did you take that said drunks shooting at a trailer on an impromptu range was a good idea?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #12 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteIt was reported that the guns may be locked safely away when not in use and that the man had received extensive firearms training throughout his lifetime. Witnesses report seeing this man firing at a green trailer parked at a DZ.... Several people at that impromptu range were reported to have been drinking..... More as this story breaks. . Witnesses also report certain incidents involving bottle rockets [rest of report censored]...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #13 December 17, 2009 QuoteWitnesses also report certain incidents involving bottle rockets [rest of report censored]... That never ends well. On a side note are you coming down this way this year?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #14 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteWitnesses also report certain incidents involving bottle rockets [rest of report censored]... That never ends well. On a side note are you coming down this way this year? No, my wife is unwell.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #15 December 17, 2009 No John I don’t. But I believe the founding fathers had a different sit of circumstances than we do. The Constitution was meant to be a living and breathing thing. Core principles, such as the right to bear arms have to be somewhat adjustable, but not disposable. During the founders time warfare progressed very slowly. A farmer with a weapon was close to a soldier in ability to fight. Today a citizen with a high powered deer rifle is formidable….but against a platoon of normally equipped soldiers? A machine gun in the house is not going to create parody. I understand the slippery slope part of yours and other worries about that. To a degree I share it to. I enjoy your post, but you like TK live are the far right and left of where most Americans sit. (IMO) TK would go to far one way and I believe you may the other way. So for me and middle of the ground approach works. FortsonKevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #16 December 17, 2009 Quote No, my wife is unwell. Very sorry to hear that.... I hope it is not serious."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #17 December 17, 2009 Quote FWIW no one needs a machine gun to defend there house...... You don't live across the street from "Don". Two may be necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #18 December 17, 2009 Core principles, such as the right to bear arms have to be somewhat adjustable, but not disposable. *** The right of honest citizens to bear arms, has damn near been 'adjusted' out of existence! I always find it interesting to note that only dishonest criminals need to fear an honest citizen that's armed. ~ya know...like robbers, rapists, politicians. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #19 December 17, 2009 Sorry I don't have any trouble getting, buying or having guns. But then again I live in Georgia.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #20 December 17, 2009 QuoteDuring the founders time warfare progressed very slowly. A farmer with a weapon was close to a soldier in ability to fight. Today a citizen with a high powered deer rifle is formidable….but against a platoon of normally equipped soldiers? A machine gun in the house is not going to create parody. Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam... All situations where the US's clearly superior troops have been killed by a farmer with a gun. The Russians were unable to beat a bunch of farmers, and the US is not exactly winning either."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #21 December 17, 2009 QuoteFWIW no one needs a machine gun to defend there house...... I believe the appropriate grammar is "to defend that there house" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 December 17, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Witnesses also report certain incidents involving bottle rockets [rest of report censored]... That never ends well. On a side note are you coming down this way this year? No, my wife is unwell. Prayers and thoughts with you and your wife kallend. I hope all turns out well for her"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #23 December 17, 2009 QuoteNo John I don’t. But I believe the founding fathers had a different sit of circumstances than we do. The Constitution was meant to be a living and breathing thing.No, it was and is not Core principles, such as the right to bear arms have to be somewhat adjustable, but not disposable. During the founders time warfare progressed very slowly. A farmer with a weapon was close to a soldier in ability to fight. Today a citizen with a high powered deer rifle is formidable….but against a platoon of normally equipped soldiers? A machine gun in the house is not going to create parody. I understand the slippery slope part of yours and other worries about that. To a degree I share it to. I enjoy your post, but you like TK live are the far right and left of where most Americans sit. (IMO) TK would go to far one way and I believe you may the other way. So for me and middle of the ground approach works. Fortson"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #24 December 17, 2009 Quote Sorry I don't have any trouble getting, buying or having guns. But then again I live in Georgia. Cool...who knows, maybe I'll head down your way! I left Illinois back when the state started charging me a fee to keep track of me and my guns. Booked on outta California when ya had to take a pink paint roller to any 'black' guns, or risk banishment to Idaho. Gettin' to the point here in the Lone Star that my carry permit isn't worth the paper it's printed on...everybody's sportin' a 'Not Allowed' sign. ~1/2 the places I go the only people strapped are the gang bangers there to rob it. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #25 December 17, 2009 >>The Constitution was meant to be a living and breathing thing. >No, it was and is not If you truly believed that, you would support slavery, the rules of which are listed in the Constitution. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you do not support slavery, and thus support the amendment (change) to the constitution that abolished it. Which means you DO agree that it was meant to change with the times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
