justinb138 0 #26 December 17, 2009 Quote Some are comfortable having their life be at the mercy of 150 or so sq. ft of nylon fabric, or a single engine while flying in the clouds at night, or the competence of the engineer who designed the bridge they drive over every day. And some of us view parachute manufacturers, aircraft manufacturers, and engineers differently than armed criminals, and plan accordingly. Surely you can see that making safe parachutes, airplanes, and bridges in the interest of both the builder and the user, while the interest of criminals rarely involves the well-being of their victims, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #27 December 17, 2009 And yet people get murdered all the time. I have never needed a Cypres, but it makes sense to own one."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #28 December 17, 2009 QuoteYep. Mike had nothing to say, so he mocked me - and I mocked him right back. SC is great for that sort of thing. Some think Mods should set a higher standard.... But hey."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #29 December 17, 2009 QuoteAnd yet people get murdered all the time. . Right, about 170 by gunfire in the last week alone. The same week you found 2 cases of people defending themselves successfully with guns. Maybe we should start a new thread for each gun homicide instead of just the massacres.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #30 December 17, 2009 QuoteIf he doesn't get mugged at all he'll be happy he didn't waste money on a gun. And if he does get mugged, he will regret not buying one. And they are less expensive than a CYPRES."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #31 December 17, 2009 QuoteRight, about 170 by gunfire in the last week alone. The same week you found 2 cases of people defending themselves successfully with guns. Well, I only posted two. QuoteMaybe we should start a new thread for each gun homicide instead of just the massacres. Feel free."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #32 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuote Some are comfortable having their life be at the mercy of 150 or so sq. ft of nylon fabric, or a single engine while flying in the clouds at night, or the competence of the engineer who designed the bridge they drive over every day. And some of us view parachute manufacturers, aircraft manufacturers, and engineers differently than armed criminals, and plan accordingly. Nope. How you view them is irrelevant to the risk taken when using them.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 December 17, 2009 QuoteRight, about 170 by gunfire in the last week alone. The same week you found 2 cases of people defending themselves successfully with guns. Link LinkMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #34 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteAnd yet people get murdered all the time. Right, about 170 by gunfire in the last week alone. You are in favor of the right of citizens to own guns, correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd yet people get murdered all the time. Right, about 170 by gunfire in the last week alone. You are in favor of the right of citizens to own guns, correct? he claims to be...his posting history belies it, though.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #36 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd yet people get murdered all the time. Right, about 170 by gunfire in the last week alone. You are in favor of the right of citizens to own guns, correct? Correct, in the way that the right has been defined by the Supreme Court..... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #37 December 17, 2009 Quote Correct, in the way that the right has been defined by the Supreme Court.. I guess you also approved of the way the SC ruled in Dred Scott? Then lets see if you still think that way when Chicago's handgun ban is overturned."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #38 December 17, 2009 Now I understand why trolls do what they do! It's fun!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #39 December 17, 2009 Quote Now I understand why trolls do what they do! It's fun! Yeh, he just did it to me, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #40 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteYou are in favor of the right of citizens to own guns, correct? Correct, in the way that the right has been defined by the Supreme Court.. Which is what, in your opinion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #41 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou are in favor of the right of citizens to own guns, correct? Correct, in the way that the right has been defined by the Supreme Court.. Which is what, in your opinion? Not my opinion, the opinion of the majority, clearly articulated by Scalia.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #42 December 17, 2009 >Do you never strive to be the bigger man? Never! If I did I'd have to get all new clothing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #43 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou are in favor of the right of citizens to own guns, correct? Correct, in the way that the right has been defined by the Supreme Court.. Which is what, in your opinion? Not my opinion, the opinion of the majority, clearly articulated by Scalia. And what is that opinion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #44 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou are in favor of the right of citizens to own guns, correct? Correct, in the way that the right has been defined by the Supreme Court.. Which is what, in your opinion? Not my opinion, the opinion of the majority, clearly articulated by Scalia. And what is that opinion? That OpinionMath tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #45 December 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou are in favor of the right of citizens to own guns, correct? Correct, in the way that the right has been defined by the Supreme Court.. Which is what, in your opinion? Not my opinion, the opinion of the majority, clearly articulated by Scalia. And what is that opinion? That Opinion Isn't it ironic, that kallend, who teaches for a living, has so much trouble here explaining things in his own words? Instead of just doing that, he goes through this long series of avoiding explaining himself. And this is illustrative of why so many people here have disdain for his debating style. It was nice of you to step in and try and help the poor man out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #46 December 18, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYou are in favor of the right of citizens to own guns, correct? Correct, in the way that the right has been defined by the Supreme Court.. Which is what, in your opinion? Not my opinion, the opinion of the majority, clearly articulated by Scalia. And what is that opinion? That Opinion Isn't it ironic, that kallend, who teaches for a living, has so much trouble here explaining things in his own words? . All he had to do was use the search function. It's been discussed on here ad nauseam already. www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=search_results&search_forum=forum_35&search_string=heller+&search_type=AND&search_fields=sb&search_time=2y&search_user_username=&sb=score&mh=25 www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3730431#3730431 My words don't count, neither do yours. The SC's words are definitive.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #47 December 18, 2009 Quote My words don't count, neither do yours. The SC's words are definitive. So you did agree with the Dred Scott ruling?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #48 December 18, 2009 I just want to say thank you, to all those who turned my little 1 thread silly troll into a forum-wide troll event! I couldn't have made it without you! [tears]Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #49 December 18, 2009 QuoteAll he had to do was use the search function. It's been discussed on here ad nauseam already. My words don't count, neither do yours. The SC's words are definitive. Then there is no need for you to say anything here about guns ever again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #50 December 18, 2009 QuoteQuoteAll he had to do was use the search function. It's been discussed on here ad nauseam already. My words don't count, neither do yours. The SC's words are definitive. Then there is no need for you to say anything here about guns ever again! Very poor logic. Your question very specifically concerned the 2nd Amendment and its meaning, not guns in general. Although I'm sure you 'd like me to cease debunking your bogus claims.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
