LyraM45 0 #26 December 13, 2009 Quote Yep, those damn republicans having affairs and getting divorced. You'd never see a democrat do that. Your desperation is funny. Here... let me fix that for you: You'd never see a democrat campaigning of family values, self riteousness, God, fidelity, non homosexuality, etc, etc, and then turn around and have an affair or have sex with another man and have to get divorced. There... that's better.Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #27 December 13, 2009 Quote Quote Yep, those damn republicans having affairs and getting divorced. You'd never see a democrat do that. Your desperation is funny. Here... let me fix that for you: You'd never see a democrat campaigning of family values, self riteousness, God, fidelity, non homosexuality, etc, etc, and then turn around and have an affair or have sex with another man and have to get divorced. There... that's better. Never say never. http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2008/09/top-10-democrat-sex-scandals-in.html http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/151648 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #28 December 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Yep, those damn republicans having affairs and getting divorced. You'd never see a democrat do that. Your desperation is funny. Here... let me fix that for you: You'd never see a democrat campaigning of family values, self riteousness, God, fidelity, non homosexuality, etc, etc, and then turn around and have an affair or have sex with another man and have to get divorced. There... that's better. Never say never. http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2008/09/top-10-democrat-sex-scandals-in.html http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/151648 What part of "double standard" don't you understand? What part of "hypocrisy" don't you understand?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #29 December 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Yep, those damn republicans having affairs and getting divorced. You'd never see a democrat do that. Your desperation is funny. Here... let me fix that for you: You'd never see a democrat campaigning of family values, self riteousness, God, fidelity, non homosexuality, etc, etc, and then turn around and have an affair or have sex with another man and have to get divorced. There... that's better. Never say never. http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2008/09/top-10-democrat-sex-scandals-in.html http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/151648 What part of "double standard" don't you understand? What part of "hypocrisy" don't you understand? Yes, there is the hypocrisy thing but I would much rather try to aim high and maybe fall short and risk being called a hypocrite than aim straight for the gutter. This is the famed "why bother trying to do the right thing?" argument."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #30 December 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Yep, those damn republicans having affairs and getting divorced. You'd never see a democrat do that. Your desperation is funny. Here... let me fix that for you: You'd never see a democrat campaigning of family values, self riteousness, God, fidelity, non homosexuality, etc, etc, and then turn around and have an affair or have sex with another man and have to get divorced. There... that's better. Never say never. http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2008/09/top-10-democrat-sex-scandals-in.html http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/151648 What part of "double standard" don't you understand? What part of "hypocrisy" don't you understand? I understand double standard and hypocrisy perfectly well. But some people in these threads Make a claim "You'd never see a democrat (fill in the blank)" and claim something as a Republican problem only, any problem. There is enough hypocrisy and double standard to spread around for both sides. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #31 December 13, 2009 Well, I think it's good for people to stand up and voice support for family values. I don't think it's all that good to tell others what those family values should be, though. Maybe politicians should stand up and say "whatever your parents taught you about family values, you should try to live by that. Unless you disagree with your parents." Scratch that. Maybe they should say, "before you have a family, decide what you want your values to be, marry someone with the same set of values, or one that you can change to your way of thinking, then you'll have something to fight over when one of you cheats." In any event, the point of the post is that if politicians eschew certain behaviors, then do those things, it makes you wonder what other rules they're breaking? Maybe some of the people that preach against homosexuality, really are homosexuals, themselves? Or maybe some politicians that support paying taxes have been dodging taxes, themselves? Maybe even some politicians that think guns are perfectly safe end up shooting their friends on accident? I am absolutely convinced that more than one politician in office doesn't believe in God, while attending church, citing biblical morals, and wishing everyone a Merry Christmas. After all, it's not about who you are, it's about how everyone else perceives you.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #32 December 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Yep, those damn republicans having affairs and getting divorced. You'd never see a democrat do that. Your desperation is funny. Here... let me fix that for you: You'd never see a democrat campaigning of family values, self riteousness, God, fidelity, non homosexuality, etc, etc, and then turn around and have an affair or have sex with another man and have to get divorced. There... that's better. Never say never. http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/2008/09/top-10-democrat-sex-scandals-in.html http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/151648 I love it.. you dig up the perfect article slamming democrats from 20 to 30 years ago. Do you realize that those incidents were the reason your Holier than thou rePUBICan Party assumed the Mantle of "Family Values", and have since FAILED at it so miserably. They tried to use family values for political gain.. and it has bit them in the ass. They have dived deeper into deparavity than their opponents in greater numbers. Why.. who knows.. perhaps there just are that many perverts who try to cloak themselves in righteousness to enable them to lure unsuspecting victims. I would post several links I found but the rules here talking about pedophilia by so many republicans prevent me from doing so. I prefer not to get banned again for trying to point out the obvious. that for whatever reason the rePUBICan Party has drawn in a huge number of really sick fucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #33 December 14, 2009 Quote rePUBICan Ok... I just have to say that your and others "creative" spellings/emphasis on the the word republican really just makes you look like an idiot for thinking your being funny or "creative". besides we all know it's not as funny as democrap... but you don't see anyone writing that in EVERY f'n post.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #34 December 14, 2009 Quote Quote rePUBICan Ok... I just have to say that your and others "creative" spellings/emphasis on the the word republican really just makes you look like an idiot for thinking your being funny or "creative". besides we all know it's not as funny as democrap... but you don't see anyone writing that in EVERY f'n post. Wrong..... Do a search and see how many of your "creative" compatriots can't get DEMOCRATIC PARTY right... or the clowns group amoung them that can't seem to get the name President Obama correct. The Republican Party of which I was once a member is gone. There is no place in the party for moderates or anyone not aligned with the religious right that thrives on demonizing all things PUBIC. When they quit trying to legislate family values and morality( they have been completly incapable of following those values themselves) perhaps they can return to being something other than a joke that wishes to turn this country into a theocracy. So many republiclowns... so little time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #35 December 14, 2009 QuoteSo many republiclowns... so little time On second thought.... I have decided you and your childish antics are not worth the effort."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #36 December 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote rePUBICan Ok... I just have to say that your and others "creative" spellings/emphasis on the the word republican really just makes you look like an idiot for thinking your being funny or "creative". besides we all know it's not as funny as democrap... but you don't see anyone writing that in EVERY f'n post. Wrong..... Two wrongs make a right in your world? Awesome. Way to be the bigger woman. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #37 December 14, 2009 Quote Quote So many republiclowns... so little time On second thought.... I have decided you and your childish antics are not worth the effort. Awww poor little Ron.... all butt hurt once again.... since you DID take the time to post..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #38 December 14, 2009 >but I would much rather try to aim high and maybe fall short and risk >being called a hypocrite than aim straight for the gutter. Agreed. But who are you more likely to listen to: 1) A guy who tells you that homosexuality is wrong, and you must stay faithful to your wife at all costs, but pays gay hookers to have sex with him, or 2) A guy who tells you how hard it is to stay faithful, that he cheated on his wife, learned from it and is now a better person for it? No one here is saying that people should not aim high. They are saying you should not tell OTHERS to aim high while you're having sex with the prostitute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #39 December 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote rePUBICan Ok... I just have to say that your and others "creative" spellings/emphasis on the the word republican really just makes you look like an idiot for thinking your being funny or "creative". besides we all know it's not as funny as democrap... but you don't see anyone writing that in EVERY f'n post. Wrong..... Two wrongs make a right in your world? Awesome. Way to be the bigger woman. Hell yeah... I am a firm believer in balance.. I LOVE to give as good as I get... I am kinda funny that way.. and since so many of those who hate my posts.... have tried to denigrate me by calling me fat etc.. guess what... I am...and I am also old and I am quite decrpit.. but I am still a better skydiver than a bunch of those clowns...well at least those who actually are skydivers.. and actually jump once in a great while( remember this IS a skydiving website) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #40 December 15, 2009 QuoteThis is the famed "why bother trying to do the right thing?" argument. The problem is that they do not do right thing. They just tell others that they should do this right thing, i.e. "do what I say, not what I do". So much for aiming high.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #41 December 15, 2009 Quote Yes, there is the hypocrisy thing but I would much rather try to aim high and maybe fall short and risk being called a hypocrite than aim straight for the gutter. This is the famed "why bother trying to do the right thing?" argument. There's no evidence that they tried to do the right thing. They were just hypocritical while enthusiastically doing the wrong thing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #42 December 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteThis is the famed "why bother trying to do the right thing?" argument. The problem is that they do not do right thing. They just tell others that they should do this right thing, i.e. "do what I say, not what I do". So much for aiming high. ALL of them? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #43 December 15, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteThis is the famed "why bother trying to do the right thing?" argument. The problem is that they do not do right thing. They just tell others that they should do this right thing, i.e. "do what I say, not what I do". So much for aiming high. ALL of them? Yes. All of them. Whew! Glad that's over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #44 December 15, 2009 QuoteThey were just hypocritical while enthusiastically doing the wrong thing. At first, I thought you were trying to put emotions onto actions that you were not part of. Then I realized that it's sex we're talking about, so yeah, it probably was enthusiastic. At least during the act. I wonder if they at least felt a little guilty afterwards. And then I wonder if feeling guilty contributes to the behavior.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #45 December 15, 2009 Quote>but I would much rather try to aim high and maybe fall short and risk >being called a hypocrite than aim straight for the gutter. Agreed. But who are you more likely to listen to: 1) A guy who tells you that homosexuality is wrong, and you must stay faithful to your wife at all costs, but pays gay hookers to have sex with him, or 2) A guy who tells you how hard it is to stay faithful, that he cheated on his wife, learned from it and is now a better person for it? No one here is saying that people should not aim high. They are saying you should not tell OTHERS to aim high while you're having sex with the prostitute. BINGO!!!! 'nuff said!Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #46 December 16, 2009 Quote >but I would much rather try to aim high and maybe fall short and risk >being called a hypocrite than aim straight for the gutter. Agreed. But who are you more likely to listen to: 1) A guy who tells you that homosexuality is wrong, and you must stay faithful to your wife at all costs, but pays gay hookers to have sex with him, or 2) A guy who tells you how hard it is to stay faithful, that he cheated on his wife, learned from it and is now a better person for it? No one here is saying that people should not aim high. They are saying you should not tell OTHERS to aim high while you're having sex with the prostitute. There are plenty of people on both sides of the isle that fit in both category one and two. When that person fits firmly in category one, vote him out of office. If you knew me personally, you would know that I am far from a saint, but I do my best to love and support my family, and as I look around at what society is turning in to, I strongly support anyone trying to do the same. The problem I have with the democratic party is they support the Rosie O'donnel's of the world who tell people to go out, be single parents when you can't even take care of yourself. It's a crap message that fosters reliance on others instead of responsibility and reliance on yourself. Like I said, when a politician proves to be a real shit bag, no matter what side of the isle he is on get rid of him. If one politician in the party turns out to be a shitbag, don't lump the whole party as a shitbag and throw out the message if it a positive one. If a republican came up with a sure-fire, fool proof method for world peace, would you throw it out and continue down the path of warfare just because you don't like who it came from? (I can already hear the comments about mixing world peace and Republicans in the same sentence Amazon)"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #47 December 16, 2009 Quote Quote >but I would much rather try to aim high and maybe fall short and risk >being called a hypocrite than aim straight for the gutter. Agreed. But who are you more likely to listen to: 1) A guy who tells you that homosexuality is wrong, and you must stay faithful to your wife at all costs, but pays gay hookers to have sex with him, or 2) A guy who tells you how hard it is to stay faithful, that he cheated on his wife, learned from it and is now a better person for it? No one here is saying that people should not aim high. They are saying you should not tell OTHERS to aim high while you're having sex with the prostitute. There are plenty of people on both sides of the isle that fit in both category one and two. When that person fits firmly in category one, vote him out of office. If you knew me personally, you would know that I am far from a saint, but I do my best to love and support my family, and as I look around at what society is turning in to, I strongly support anyone trying to do the same. The problem I have with the democratic party is they support the Rosie O'donnel's of the world who tell people to go out, be single parents when you can't even take care of yourself. It's a crap message that fosters reliance on others instead of responsibility and reliance on yourself. Like I said, when a politician proves to be a real shit bag, no matter what side of the isle he is on get rid of him. If one politician in the party turns out to be a shitbag, don't lump the whole party as a shitbag and throw out the message if it a positive one. If a republican came up with a sure-fire, fool proof method for world peace, would you throw it out and continue down the path of warfare just because you don't like who it came from? (I can already hear the comments about mixing world peace and Republicans in the same sentence Amazon) Other than being a complete non-sequitur.. AS long as there are so many chickenhawks and neo-cons in the but fucking tea bagging party of no.. they will reamain the party of no fiscal responsibility, the party of failed family values, the party of massive government and the projectors of the new american century of war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #48 December 16, 2009 Quote AS long as there are so many chickenhawks and neo-cons in the but fucking tea bagging party of no.. 1. Please don't confuse the neo-cons and the "tea baggers", they're typically two different groups of people, despite the fact that they co-exist in the same party. 2. Have you actually been to one of these events? I think you might find there are people there that would agree with you on a few things. The few I've attended seemed to be focused on government spending, and were not very supportive of the wars. Quote they will reamain the party of no fiscal responsibility, the party of failed family values, the party of massive government and the projectors of the new american century of war. There is no party that's concerned with fiscal responsibility. The few I've seen that truly believe in it are quickly labeled far-right extremists by both the neo-con right as well as the left. Also, anyone looking to politicians for family values needs to have their head examined. I could care less who my congressman is banging, and I really don't care what they're preaching, provided they're not trying to pass laws based on such preaching, and they're doing their job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #49 December 16, 2009 QuoteAlso, anyone looking to politicians for family values needs to have their head examined. I could care less who my congressman is banging, and I really don't care what they're preaching, provided they're not trying to pass laws based on such preaching, and they're doing their job. The problem is that is EXACTLY what the rePUBIClowns have done for the last 25 years and it has gotten worse as time has gone on. How many attempts have there been at legislating morality from the rePUBICans since they took power??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #50 December 16, 2009 Quote Other than being a complete non-sequitur.. AS long as there are so many chickenhawks and neo-cons in the but fucking tea bagging party of no.. they will reamain the party of no fiscal responsibility, the party of failed family values, the party of massive government and the projectors of the new american century of war. I had to read your post 3 times. You do understand that some of the hate you spit out in the above sentence fits the democratic party more than the republican party right? Particularly when talking about big government and failed family values. I could understand it if you said that most politiicans belong at the bottom of the ocean, seeing that most politicians are lawyers... regardless of party affiliation. Lets take a look at a couple of case studies to help show why I vote republican: U.S Rep Mark Foley- Was soliciting sex from teenage congressional page boys for more than 10 years. When outed he resigned his seat while being chastised by the republican party and when he left, his party said it was the right thing to do. "Safe school Czar" Kevin Jennings- While in the appointment process it was discovered that he supported NAMBLA founder Harry Hay and encouraged gay student/adult relationships while acting as a councilor at a high school. The Obama admin said he was qualified for the job and they are lucky to have him. I believe that a lot of problems in this country could be solved if we strengthened the family unit. Get both parents involved and raise the kids instead of letting our kids be raised by MTV and X-box. When Ann Coulter says "80% of the kids in jail come from broken homes." the usual response from the left is "she is stupid and have you seen the size of her adams apple?" Very intelligent response. Am I pro life? No. Am I against gay marriage? No, I'm not trying to define "family". I'm not racists and I am not bigoted. I do believe involved parents are the best thing for kids and 2 parents have a lot easier time staying involved than 1. It's also easier for 2 parents to provide financial stability to a house than 1. I would much rather aim high and fall short rather than aim for the gutter. Both parties are full of bad people, but we vote them in. We have no one to blame but us for that. But given a choice I still prefer the pro-family message."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites