quade 4 #1 December 8, 2009 Quote The Obama administration on Tuesday officially unveiled its Open Government directive, a document that charges each federal agency with making high value data publicly available and with quickly coming up with formal open government plans. Source; http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10411429-52.html?tag=newsLatestHeadlinesArea.0 .pdf of the actual directive Regardless of what you may think of Obama, the man, this is a good step forward for our government.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 December 8, 2009 Quote Quote The Obama administration on Tuesday officially unveiled its Open Government directive, a document that charges each federal agency with making high value data publicly available and with quickly coming up with formal open government plans. Source; http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10411429-52.html?tag=newsLatestHeadlinesArea.0 .pdf of the actual directive Regardless of what you may think of Obama, the man, this is a good step forward for our government. Wanna buy a bridge? Dont get me wrong, transparity is needed but, if you think, really think, he is going to do it now, well, I will ask again, wanna buy a bridge? I hope it is a step "forward" as you say.........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 December 8, 2009 QuoteWanna buy a bridge? Dont get me wrong, transparity is needed but, if you think, really think, he is going to do it now, well, I will ask again, wanna buy a bridge? It's a directive from The White House. He has done it. If individual government agencies don't comply it's on them and will be held accountable. It's not like the man can personally upload the content himself.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 December 8, 2009 QuoteQuoteWanna buy a bridge? Dont get me wrong, transparity is needed but, if you think, really think, he is going to do it now, well, I will ask again, wanna buy a bridge? It's a directive from The White House. He has done it. If individual government agencies don't comply it's on them and will be held accountable. It's not like the man can personally upload the content himself. Price reduced for "hope n change""America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 December 8, 2009 Uh, did you see the issued date? I guess all that "stuff" is done already?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 895 #6 December 8, 2009 Mission accomplished. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 December 8, 2009 QuoteMission accomplished. Ya! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #8 December 8, 2009 That's obviously a typo (2008 instead of 2009). An embarrassing one, and one that someone may lose their job over, but a typo nonetheless. Unless you think Bush knew that Eric Holder was going to be named Attorney General. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 December 8, 2009 Lets see The memo date is Dec 08 the issue notation is Jan 21 09 and the gov pdf link to the FOIA memo is March 09 I guess that is obvious to you huh "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 December 8, 2009 Hell dude Even the news links says the directive was issued in Jan of 09 But as you say, it is obvious..........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #11 December 8, 2009 Sigh. Let me explain it to you simply: Obama issued a memorandum on January 21, 2009 (his first day in office). On December 8, 2009 (today, which is why is was reported today) the principles of the memorandum were specified an an Executive Directive. The very first fucking sentence of the letter remarks on the date of the memo in the past tense. The March 2009 date refers to another, different but related action in response to the memorandum. Why be obtuse? You are coming off like someone blinded by the overwhelming need to bash Obama at any cost and for any reason. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #12 December 8, 2009 Note that this does not appear to apply to Congress. Though it would have been nice while Sen. Reid was drafting legislation behind closed doors.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 December 8, 2009 QuoteSigh. Let me explain it to you simply: Obama issued a memorandum on January 21, 2009 (his first day in office). On December 8, 2009 (today, which is why is was reported today) the principles of the memorandum were specified an an Executive Directive. The very first fucking sentence of the letter remarks on the date of the memo in the past tense. The March 2009 date refers to another, different but related action in response to the memorandum. Why be obtuse? You are coming off like someone blinded by the overwhelming need to bash Obama at any cost and for any reason. You are in the brigde market too I see. Yes, the point this is old fucking news and he has as of yet, ignored his own promise. You think it is going to stick now? I hope it does, but it will not for him or any admin for that matter. IMO. So, dont fall too hard off your bash Obama horse pal. Not even close to the point. Now, about that bridge.........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 December 8, 2009 QuoteNote that this does not appear to apply to Congress. Though it would have been nice while Sen. Reid was drafting legislation behind closed doors. I'm not a big fan of closed door sessions, but for the most part I can understand why sometimes it's required and not just for national security reason either. If you've ever worked for a creative company you'd understand that 99% of everything that's talked about behind closed doors are ideas that you explore and debate for awhile and then toss out for any one of a bazillion reasons. I can not imagine that Congress works any differently. Having 100% public access and commentary to that process would drag it to grinding halt. All of that said, most of what Congress finally does ends up in the Congressional Record at some point.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 December 8, 2009 QuoteYou are in the brigde market too I see. Good to see you could never be accused of making a typo.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 December 8, 2009 QuoteQuoteYou are in the brigde market too I see. Good to see you could never be accused of making a typo. Make them all the time as you well know Still not the point now is it.........."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #17 December 8, 2009 >Make them all the time as you well know Funny, then, that you crucify other people who make them. Pot, meet kettle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 December 8, 2009 Quote>Make them all the time as you well know Funny, then, that you crucify other people who make them. Pot, meet kettle. Ok where did I speak to any typo? Dan G posted to it, not me Trouble reading today?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #19 December 8, 2009 The whole point of your posts was a typo in the letter attached to the Executive Directive. And I still don't see you admitting that this happened today, not one year ago. Are you still holding on to your notion that this Directive was issued December 8, 2008? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #20 December 8, 2009 Quote*** The Obama administration on Tuesday officially unveiled its Open Government directive, a document that charges each federal agency with making high value data publicly available and with quickly coming up with formal open government plans. Must explain THIS suddenly being online. All you ever wanted to know about TSA.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #21 December 8, 2009 Quote I'm not a big fan of closed door sessions, but for the most part I can understand why sometimes it's required and not just for national security reason either. So can you explain to me how healthcare is a matter of National Security? One would think that this is one topic they would want out in the open, or is everyone happy just throwing all these wild ass accusations around about what is or isn't in the health care bill?"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #22 December 9, 2009 QuoteQuote The Obama administration on Tuesday officially unveiled its Open Government directive, a document that charges each federal agency with making high value data publicly available and with quickly coming up with formal open government plans. I'm sure it will be as "accurate" as the data provided for job creation.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #23 December 9, 2009 QuoteQuote I'm not a big fan of closed door sessions, but for the most part I can understand why sometimes it's required and not just for national security reason either. So can you explain to me how healthcare is a matter of National Security? One would think that this is one topic they would want out in the open, or is everyone happy just throwing all these wild ass accusations around about what is or isn't in the health care bill? Please read the post again. Slowly.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #24 December 9, 2009 QuoteQuoteNote that this does not appear to apply to Congress. Though it would have been nice while Sen. Reid was drafting legislation behind closed doors. I'm not a big fan of closed door sessions, but for the most part I can understand why sometimes it's required and not just for national security reason either. If you've ever worked for a creative company you'd understand that 99% of everything that's talked about behind closed doors are ideas that you explore and debate for awhile and then toss out for any one of a bazillion reasons. I can not imagine that Congress works any differently. Having 100% public access and commentary to that process would drag it to grinding halt. All of that said, most of what Congress finally does ends up in the Congressional Record at some point. Indeed. However, we've seen time and again claims to not put things on thomas.gov or the promised "breather" periods for debate. Other than that, you points have merit. The only way Congress will listen is if all of us get off our duffs and replace all of them.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
quade 4 #23 December 9, 2009 QuoteQuote I'm not a big fan of closed door sessions, but for the most part I can understand why sometimes it's required and not just for national security reason either. So can you explain to me how healthcare is a matter of National Security? One would think that this is one topic they would want out in the open, or is everyone happy just throwing all these wild ass accusations around about what is or isn't in the health care bill? Please read the post again. Slowly.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #24 December 9, 2009 QuoteQuoteNote that this does not appear to apply to Congress. Though it would have been nice while Sen. Reid was drafting legislation behind closed doors. I'm not a big fan of closed door sessions, but for the most part I can understand why sometimes it's required and not just for national security reason either. If you've ever worked for a creative company you'd understand that 99% of everything that's talked about behind closed doors are ideas that you explore and debate for awhile and then toss out for any one of a bazillion reasons. I can not imagine that Congress works any differently. Having 100% public access and commentary to that process would drag it to grinding halt. All of that said, most of what Congress finally does ends up in the Congressional Record at some point. Indeed. However, we've seen time and again claims to not put things on thomas.gov or the promised "breather" periods for debate. Other than that, you points have merit. The only way Congress will listen is if all of us get off our duffs and replace all of them.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites