Bolas 5 #101 December 8, 2009 Quote Quote On another note as a general comment to the thread-It is NEVER right to cheat. It is NEVER right to use violence. For heavens sake, have respect for yourself and your partner. Stop using your sex characteristics as an excuse for infidelity (this goes for men AND women) and act like the decent human being you were raised to be. +1 +2 (Unless the sleeping around or violence is consensual) Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TiaDanger 0 #102 December 8, 2009 Quote What if he nailed his wife's sister? Isn't that cause for violence Ya, thats just what we need, to make a wrong situation even more wrong. Don't get me wrong, if somebody cheated on me, my first thought would be to bash their head in. But would I do it? No. As hard as it is to walk away, it will make me the better person. Personally, I am so sick and tired of hearing about people, regardless of their class status, cheat on their significant others. From Tiger, to Desperate Housewives, to 48-hours Mystery, to the guy you know down the street, it is shoved in our face 24 hours a day. I don't know if people become 'desensitized' from hearing about it so much, or its just plain disregard of their conscience, or what. But, shockingly, too many people think that it is okay. If you honestly think its okay to cheat for any reason, you need to get your head checked. Due to my biology nerdiness, I always joke that the 'conscience gene' has somehow, somewhere been deleted from the human genome. Not true, but it seems to be a disappointing trend.In many cases, infidelity seems to stem from an unhealthy or unhappy relationship, which, IMO, is where the 'fixing' should have been done in the first place.And for the record: the appropriate ranking of cool modes of transportation is jet pack, hover board, transporter, Batmobile, and THEN giant ant. D.S. #8.8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TiaDanger 0 #103 December 8, 2009 Quote In Reply To In Reply To On another note as a general comment to the thread-It is NEVER right to cheat. It is NEVER right to use violence. For heavens sake, have respect for yourself and your partner. Stop using your sex characteristics as an excuse for infidelity (this goes for men AND women) and act like the decent human being you were raised to be. +1 +2 (Unless the sleeping around or violence is consensual) This thread has gotten me all riled up, but that made me giggleAnd for the record: the appropriate ranking of cool modes of transportation is jet pack, hover board, transporter, Batmobile, and THEN giant ant. D.S. #8.8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #104 December 8, 2009 Quote Women, on average, are sexual camels. How many months if not years can a woman go with out sex? The only time I've ever heard that term was from the Niles Crane character on the old "Frasier" show."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #105 December 8, 2009 Quote Personally, I am so sick and tired of hearing about people, regardless of their class status, cheat on their significant others. [...]But, shockingly, too many people think that it is okay. One does get into the big issue about promises made on fidelity, versus that idea about "... but everyone's cheating". Or at least, how can you expect a rich, talented, and famous man to want to limit himself to one woman? Plenty of men have loved their wife and kids but still wanted something on the side, whether it is right or not. (And it's not always the guys. There's interesting data out there on the number of women who cheat, and the number of guys who are legally obligated to support a child that isn't genetically theirs. Once someone has accepted the role of father they tend to be legally required to maintain that role even if the kid isn't theirs!) Even if as a guy one feels one's morals would prevent one from cheating, why wouldn't one want to get experience with different women? Guys tend to like variety. It seems at times that it shouldn't be any different than other things in life. My pilot's log book has a table right in the front for all the different aircraft one has flown. And I've flown something like 90 different parachutes. Even if I love my FX 88 most, I love to spend some time with my Maverick, my Sabre, my ParaCommander and so on. I even love my little Cobalt 75, although she's a tempermental , squirrely little bitch at times. Still fun to jump her though! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #106 December 8, 2009 QuoteQuote Personally, I am so sick and tired of hearing about people, regardless of their class status, cheat on their significant others. [...]But, shockingly, too many people think that it is okay. One does get into the big issue about promises made on fidelity, versus that idea about "... but everyone's cheating". Or at least, how can you expect a rich, talented, and famous man to want to limit himself to one woman? Plenty of men have loved their wife and kids but still wanted something on the side, whether it is right or not. Decent people keep their promises (to be monogamous, only add other people with the spouse present, only add with the spouses consent, there are lots of possibilities in this modern world) and honest where biological imperatives make that impractical (discovering latent vegisexualism or whatever). Being poor, rich, or famous doesn't figure into anything but the likely size of the divorce settlement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TiaDanger 0 #107 December 8, 2009 Thats fine if you want variety. Just like Rodney Carrington said, 'i like green M&Ms, I just don't want them every day of the week' Then remain unmarried. Know yourself enough not to hurt another over your actions. And if you looked at my post, I never said more men cheat than women, I said I'm tired of the act of cheating in general.And for the record: the appropriate ranking of cool modes of transportation is jet pack, hover board, transporter, Batmobile, and THEN giant ant. D.S. #8.8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #108 December 8, 2009 QuoteThats fine if you want variety. Just like Rodney Carrington said, 'i like green M&Ms, I just don't want them every day of the week' Then remain unmarried. Know yourself enough not to hurt another over your actions. And if you looked at my post, I never said more men cheat than women, I said I'm tired of the act of cheating in general. Maybe people have given up on trying. The communications bridge is down. It's easier to get some on the side than to tell your other half that there is a problem? Or there is something you don't like. Is it right? No. Is it life? Maybe.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #109 December 8, 2009 QuoteThats fine if you want variety. Just like Rodney Carrington said, 'i like green M&Ms, I just don't want them every day of the week' Then remain unmarried. Know yourself enough not to hurt another over your actions. And if you looked at my post, I never said more men cheat than women, I said I'm tired of the act of cheating in general. Well ACTUALLY... its seems like a lot of guys follow Shahs advice.. and get some on the side... but anyone with anything aproaching a well grounded grip on reality already knew that http://www.allaboutlifechallenges.org/marital-infidelity.htm Marital Infidelity - The Facts The facts about marital infidelity (sexual unfaithfulness to a spouse) are astounding. Polls show that although 90% of married people disapprove of extramarital relationships, statistics from a national survey indicate that 15% of wives and 25% of husbands have experienced extramarital intercourse. These numbers increase by 20% when emotional affairs and sexual relationships without intercourse are included. Another source, The Monogamy Myth, authored by Peggy Vaughan, approximates that 60% of husbands and 40% of wives will have an affair at some time in their marriage. [/url] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TiaDanger 0 #110 December 8, 2009 QuoteMarital Infidelity - The Facts The facts about marital infidelity (sexual unfaithfulness to a spouse) are astounding. Polls show that although 90% of married people disapprove of extramarital relationships, statistics from a national survey indicate that 15% of wives and 25% of husbands have experienced extramarital intercourse. These numbers increase by 20% when emotional affairs and sexual relationships without intercourse are included. Another source, The Monogamy Myth, authored by Peggy Vaughan, approximates that 60% of husbands and 40% of wives will have an affair at some time in their marriage. So just because thats the statistic, it makes it right? I'm not oblivious to how often it happens, I'm just disappointed that it is the way it is. I just hope that when I get married, I don't ever have to suffer the humiliation and disrespect of somebody being unfaithful to me. I certainly will never inflict that hurt on my future husband.And for the record: the appropriate ranking of cool modes of transportation is jet pack, hover board, transporter, Batmobile, and THEN giant ant. D.S. #8.8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #111 December 8, 2009 QuoteQuoteMarital Infidelity - The Facts The facts about marital infidelity (sexual unfaithfulness to a spouse) are astounding. Polls show that although 90% of married people disapprove of extramarital relationships, statistics from a national survey indicate that 15% of wives and 25% of husbands have experienced extramarital intercourse. These numbers increase by 20% when emotional affairs and sexual relationships without intercourse are included. Another source, The Monogamy Myth, authored by Peggy Vaughan, approximates that 60% of husbands and 40% of wives will have an affair at some time in their marriage. So just because thats the statistic, it makes it right? I'm not oblivious to how often it happens, I'm just disappointed that it is the way it is. I just hope that when I get married, I don't ever have to suffer the humiliation and disrespect of somebody being unfaithful to me. I certainly will never inflict that hurt on my future husband. I certainly did not say its right. Those pesky vows meant something to me... and once they were broken... it was over.. all my trust was gone. Too many men seem to justify the infidelity just as Shah has done in this thread by claiming they HAVE To have sex no matter what. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #112 December 8, 2009 > But it is also wrong to withhold love and to utilize it as a weapon. Yep. And that's wrong no matter which person in the relationship does it. >Yes it's a failure on both sides but who gets hurt worse? Who suffers more? Generally the person who gets lied to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #113 December 8, 2009 QuoteWomen, on average, are sexual camels. How many months if not years can a woman go with out sex? For us guys, it's so different. The book to which you linked as a source of information and "the latest numbers" says otherwise.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #114 December 8, 2009 http://video.foxnews.com/12327002/eyewitness-account This may be getting ugly Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #115 December 8, 2009 QuoteToo many men seem to justify the infidelity just as Shah has done in this thread by claiming they HAVE To have sex no matter what. I did what now? I don't think I said that. Heck I'm 100% sure i did not say that. I said, "for some it appears to be easier to get some on the side than it is to work out their problems." Wow talk about putting words into some ones mouth...wooh!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #116 December 8, 2009 Shah, I'd like to know what you did to that woman who got rushed to the hospital this morning. Bastard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #117 December 8, 2009 QuoteShah, I'd like to know what you did to that woman who got rushed to the hospital this morning. Bastard. Hu wha?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #118 December 8, 2009 Quote Quote Shah, I'd like to know what you did to that woman who got rushed to the hospital this morning. Bastard. Hu wha? Whoops! OK, I get it. Very clever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #119 December 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Shah, I'd like to know what you did to that woman who got rushed to the hospital this morning. Bastard. Hu wha? Whoops! OK, I get it. Very clever. I guess....?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #120 December 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Shah, I'd like to know what you did to that woman who got rushed to the hospital this morning. Bastard. Hu wha? Whoops! OK, I get it. Very clever. I guess....? The news now says it's Woods's mother in law. Is she a MILF? (Or a MIL-ILF?) C'mon, tell us. You sly devil. Swedes now, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #121 December 8, 2009 QuoteQuoteToo many men seem to justify the infidelity just as Shah has done in this thread by claiming they HAVE To have sex no matter what. I did what now? I don't think I said that. Heck I'm 100% sure i did not say that. I said, "for some it appears to be easier to get some on the side than it is to work out their problems." Wow talk about putting words into some ones mouth...wooh! From one of your posts..... above... QuoteAnd ladies....before you throw me into the fires of Hatties those "working girls" those strip clubs......it's not only for dirt bags and scum buckets. You would be surprised how many "normal" guys have something on the side. And why? Now either all of us men are dogs and pigs.....or perhaps half the blame lies in your lap as well? Yeah right.... so much for putting words in your mouth. And this gem http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3746403#3746403 So I take it vows dont count as long as you get what you want from your spouse.. on demand???? It certainly seems from what you have said here and in other threads that you like many other guys think they are not worth following as long as their "NEEDS" are met "on the side". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #122 December 8, 2009 Swedish girls are hot! That's for sure! But his mother in law is not doing well....that sucks! I hope she gets better. But yeah Swedish girls are hot, a bit prudish but still hot. But for real fun and passion Southern Spain is the place to be. Not only are those girls gorgeous but they know how to dance and cook!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #123 December 8, 2009 Quote QuoteAnd ladies....before you throw me into the fires of Hatties those "working girls" those strip clubs......it's not only for dirt bags and scum buckets. You would be surprised how many "normal" guys have something on the side. And why? Now either all of us men are dogs and pigs.....or perhaps half the blame lies in your lap as well? Yeah right.... so much for putting words in your mouth. Amazon Did you read what I wrote or did you read what you wished to read? It's ok I do it as well. Note what I said. either all of us men are dogs and pigs.....or perhaps half the blame lies in your lap as well what we have her is a failure to communicate. and it can be said that Mr. Woods and his wife had a failure to communicate. This is a very serious issue, our divorce rate is well above %50 and god knows how many people are on medication to calm their desires. And who wins out? The pharmaceutical companies and lawyers. Who looses in all this? The kids, the husband, the wife...society. Who knows...maybe they will go to therapy, they will talk and all will be fine? And who knows, what is to say she wasn't cheating on him? If not physically but maybe emotionally?Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #124 December 8, 2009 Quoteour divorce rate is well above %50 and god knows how many people are on medication to calm their desires. And who wins out? The pharmaceutical companies and lawyers. See? Every cloud has a silver lining. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #125 December 8, 2009 My purpose here is to wander through and throw some gas on the fire in the appropriate spot. Simple questions- Was this a part of their premarital dating? Did he cheat on her then? Seems like we'd know about it. If not, what changed? Why did he cheat after marriage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites