davjohns 1 #26 December 4, 2009 Quote I'm betting that she took better care of her man during the dating days. Somehow, the "sales demo" seems to be better than the actual product. So it is her fault he cheated? Wow.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #27 December 4, 2009 Quote I can think of no moral justification for committing adultery. I can come up with lots of reasons to hit someone with a seven iron. I win. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #28 December 4, 2009 QuoteI can think of no moral justification for committing adultery. I can come up with lots of reasons to hit someone with a seven iron. I win. Not hardly. What a ridiculous comment. Nobody has declared you as the final arbiter of right/wrong. I certainly don't want you to assume some dictatorial power to define what is moral either. That tactic is only viable when you are telling your children. Between adults, it does not remotely apply. Adults aren't supposed to assault other adults with potentially lethal objects. That is why there are laws against it. QuoteI can come up with lots of reasons to hit someone with a seven iron. None of those reasons are a legal reason to do. People who do should go to jail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Harmless 0 #30 December 4, 2009 Nope... but I don't think her emotional distress (if there really is any) is worth half of his net worth... I believe cheating is a despicable act, I also believe most marriages should never happen. I also don't impose my morals on other people, because we all see things differently."Damn you Gravity, you win again" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #31 December 4, 2009 I got that one on my phone with the song "It wasn't me" attached. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #32 December 4, 2009 Adultery is illegal in Alabama and will definitely impact your divorce. Society as a whole deems it wrong. I can think of no moral defense of adultery and you don't propose one. Adultery is only wrong when descrbing it to children? Come on. My profession is to assault other people. Of course I can see justifications for it. But for the record; my comments were half in jest. I seem to have touched a nerve with you, though. I'm guessing you have some practical experience with adultery. Just a guess.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #33 December 4, 2009 Maybe he has experience w/ adultery, I have no idea. Perhaps you are hitting a nerve for other reasons, though. Other people surely have experience w/ domestic violence. It is never justified. You are right that adultery is wrong and will in some states impact your divorce. Domestic violence is also always wrong and is often not taken nearly seriously enough, especially when it is a woman who assaults a man."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #34 December 4, 2009 QuoteNope... but I don't think her emotional distress (if there really is any) is worth half of his net worth... I believe cheating is a despicable act, I also believe most marriages should never happen. I also don't impose my morals on other people, because we all see things differently. I agree about imposing morals on others. However, marriage involves the most solemn vow a person can make. The vow includes fidelity. A fellow Army Officer once pointed out to me that someone who breaks that vow can not be trusted to keep any other promises. After careful consideration, I agree. It is a matter of integrity and honor. If you want to have sex with someone else, get a divorce first. If there are reasons you shouldn't get a divorce, keep it in your pants until circumstances change. Pretty simple. I don't consider it a moral issue as others here seem to. I consider it a matter of integrity. An oath was given. Was it kept? If not; what good is your word?I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #35 December 4, 2009 QuoteMaybe he has experience w/ adultery, I have no idea. Perhaps you are hitting a nerve for other reasons, though. Other people surely have experience w/ domestic violence. It is never justified. You are right that adultery is wrong and will in some states impact your divorce. Domestic violence is also always wrong and is often not taken nearly seriously enough, especially when it is a woman who assaults a man. No argument. I just have slightly more sympathy for a spouse reacting violently in the moment of revelation than for someone who cheats. Only slightly, though.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #36 December 4, 2009 QuoteAdultery is illegal in Alabama and will definitely impact your divorce. Society as a whole deems it wrong. Adultery is not illegal in Fla. An attorney told me that it is a reason to state when filing papers, but, otherwise, it has no bearing legally. QuoteSociety as a whole deems it wrong. I can think of no moral defense of adultery and you don't propose one. I am proposing that you can divorce someone, or you can leave them, but you are not entitled to beat them. Other than that, I'm not concerned with other peoples relationships. QuoteMy profession is to assault other people. Of course I can see justifications for it. So... just anytime someone gets mad, they should attack people with golf clubs ? What a pleasant place your home must be (a quiet little circle of fear). I try to be just a little logical about how normal society functions. QuoteBut for the record; my comments were half in jest. I seem to have touched a nerve with you, though. I'm guessing you have some practical experience with adultery. Just a guess Nope. An interesting tactic though. Trying to discount the opinions of others because they may have another reason than logic (once again, in your opinion/theory). I only made two statements. 1- Nobody deserves a beating except in physical self defense. 2- Nobody deserves millions of dollars because of a transgression against a relationship (assumed to be perfect by outsiders). QuoteBut for the record; my comments were half in jest. Not mine. I think people should think before suggesting that financially destroying a persons lifes work is a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #37 December 4, 2009 Florida Criminal Code Section 798 seems to thwart your hearsay legal opinion. It appears adultery is a crime in Florida. I am proposing that you can divorce someone or you can leave them also. Committing adultery is a breach of your word and appears illegal besides being an age-old societal flaw. Beating them is not acceptable. But I can sympathize with her position just a bit easier. "So... just anytime someone gets mad, they should attack people with golf clubs ? What a pleasant place your home must be (a quiet little circle of fear). I try to be just a little logical about how normal society functions. " Your huge leap of inference disputes your purported use of logic. "An interesting tactic though. Trying to discount the opinions of others because they may have another reason than logic " Not a tactic at all. Just an observation. I'm not used to seeing people defend adultery and blame a wife for her husband's cheating. There is no logic involved in that argument. It appears to be emotion based. I am guessing there is a reason. "I think people should think before suggesting that financially destroying a persons lifes work is a good idea. " Thought long and hard about it over the years. I would destroy him financially and sleep well afterwards. I consider it the natrual, logical consequences of his actions. He made the decisions. When they were good decisions, he made millions. When they are bad decisions, they should cost him millions.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #38 December 4, 2009 QuoteThought long and hard about it over the years. I would destroy him financially and sleep well afterwards. I consider it the natrual, logical consequences of his actions. He made the decisions. When they were good decisions, he made millions. When they are bad decisions, they should cost him millions. Sure. That was your original statement. I am still against it. You are still for it. Many lawyers sleep well at night even though they have financially destroyed tens of thousands of men in divorce court, so sleeping well is a statement of your choices, not a moral validation. I think adultery is a poor idea, but it does not equate to what you suggest. So, that is where we stand. I think it is wrong and you think it is a goal. So we are done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #39 December 4, 2009 Quote No argument. I just have slightly more sympathy for a spouse reacting violently in the moment of revelation than for someone who cheats. Only slightly, though. I find it appalling that you have any sympathy at all for somebody committing assault. I have none, she belongs in jail."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #40 December 4, 2009 QuoteThe news says his pre-nup is being re-negotiated. I hope she cleans him out. I couldn't agree more! Just proves some people even if they have it all..want more...what a stupid mistake to make! All for some celebrity chasing whore! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #41 December 4, 2009 QuoteQuote I'm betting that she took better care of her man during the dating days. Somehow, the "sales demo" seems to be better than the actual product. So it is her fault he cheated? Wow. WOW is no shit, the first time, (that he is admiting to), She was 8 months pregnant with his Child...Giving him a child is all the reason in the world to stay true to a woman..Period! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
npgraphicdesign 3 #42 December 4, 2009 What's the difference between a car and a golf ball? Well, Tiger can drive the ball 400 yards... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #43 December 4, 2009 Apparently, it's decided by unanimous consent: fuck 'em both. Finis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #44 December 5, 2009 QuoteI can think of no moral justification for committing adultery. I can come up with lots of reasons to hit someone with a seven iron. I win. Nope. You lose. You advocate violence? You lose, dude. It's a weak person who has to resort to violence to "resolve" problems....and too stupid to realize that it resolves nothing.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #45 December 5, 2009 QuoteFlorida Criminal Code Section 798 seems to thwart your hearsay legal opinion. It appears adultery is a crime in Florida. Not arguing but can you be more specific? Section 798 is rather large with many sub-sections. Being a lawyer, that should be easy for you.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #46 December 5, 2009 OMFG...have I wandered off into SC???? Help me find the keys and we can drive out!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #47 December 5, 2009 QuoteI was a woman scorned once. Took it all from my now ex-husband. After what he did to me, the only way to hurt him was financially. So I did. That's another good reason to never marry American women.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #48 December 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuote I'm betting that she took better care of her man during the dating days. Somehow, the "sales demo" seems to be better than the actual product. So it is her fault he cheated? Wow. WOW is no shit, the first time, (that he is admiting to), She was 8 months pregnant with his Child...Giving him a child is all the reason in the world to stay true to a woman..Period! I (honestly) must have missed that. Where did he admit to cheating? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #49 December 5, 2009 QuoteI can think of no moral justification for committing adultery. I can come up with lots of reasons to hit someone with a seven iron. I win. I think your morals are slightly bent. Fidelity trumps physical violence?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #50 December 5, 2009 >I can think of no moral justification for committing adultery. I can >come up with lots of reasons to hit someone with a seven iron. >I win. Unfortunately, a jury would decide that you lose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
