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QuoteHe was a suspect, and it's not clear he did anything threatening, that's what I meant by it not appearing to be a clean kill.
Here in Atlanta, the requirements for police use of deadly force are:
(1) Perpetrator must have the Ability to cause death or serious bodily harm;
(2) Perpetrator must have Opportunity to inflict harm;
(3) Perpetrator must put officer or bystanders in real Jeopardy.
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Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying
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He was a suspect, and it's not clear he did anything threatening, that's what I meant by it not appearing to be a clean kill.
What the hell are you talking about?
A suspect car thief doesn't cooperate, hides his hands, and is moving for cover. Doesn't get more righteous than that. People have shot cops to avoid arrest for far less significant crimes.
He was a suspect, and it's not clear he did anything threatening, that's what I meant by it not appearing to be a clean kill. In this case, on the basis of the older gunshot wound, I think they probably got the right guy, i.e. Clemmons was actually the shooter in Lakewood AND this was actually Clemmons. It was entirely possible though, that this could have just been some random guy or maybe someone only guilty of being a car thief, in which case shooting him dead for doing nothing other than running would have been unjustified. I'm not bent out of shape over the killing, I just wish it had been a cut & dry defensive shooting by the officer rather than him looking a little like judge, jury, and executioner.
Blues,
Dave
Blues,
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OK I mistook ur post as saying you disagreed with the police officers actions altogether. While I agree that it would have been easier to justify had the suspect been armed I feel that an appropriate level of force was used. Had it been Joe Schmoe walking down the street I wouldn't say that killing him was the right thing to do. Someone who is wanted for killing police officers should be immediately seen as a threat and any actions they take that aren't in complete compliance with a law enforcement official open the door to the use of force IMO.
Of course I'm still waiting for someone to scream, "why didn't they shoot him in the leg to keep from having to kill him?" its going to be asked, just wait.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower
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QuoteFalse, there is ALWAYS data for events that happen.
Data to establish how cops get a break in court as defendants? Love to read it.
QuoteHolding you to the SAME standards you hold others is not denying or ignoring anything.
I thought you, the back peddler decided you looked foolish so you were gonna quit being spell nanny. Right, well if you can find a stat that tracks and illustrates how cops get a break as Defs in court, I'd love to see it.
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QuoteDon't feed (me) the trolls.............
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QuoteIf someone raises a weapon at you (cop or not) you have to right to defend yourself with deadly force.
To further that, Justifyable Homicide can be applied if person A holds a gun to person B, you, person C shoots person A. So they don't to pose imminent threat to the holder of the gun, they can be imminently threatening any person.
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