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The Fundamental Transformation of America When Obama wrote a book and said he was mentored as a youth by Frank, (Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist, people said it didn't matter.



When it was discovered that his grandparents, were strong socialists, sent Obama's mother to a socialist school, introduced Frank Marshall Davis to young Obama, People said it didn't matter.



When people found out that he was enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his father and step father were both Muslims, people said it didn't matter.



When he wrote in another book he authored "I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

people said it didn't matter.



When he admittedly, in his book, said he chose Marxist friends and professors in college, people said it didn't matter.



When he traveled to Pakistan , after college on an unknown national passport, people said it didn't matter.



When he sought the endorsement of the Marxist party in 1996 as he ran for the Illinois Senate, people said it doesn't matter.



When he sat in a Chicago Church for twenty years and listened to a preacher spew hatred for America and preach black liberation theology, people said it didn't matter.



When an independent Washington organization, that tracks senate voting records, gave him the distinctive title as the "most liberal senator", people said it didn't matter.



When the Palestinians in Gaza, set up a fund raising telethon to raise money for his election campaign, people said it didn't matter.



When his voting record supported gun control, people said it didn't matter.



When he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, people said it didn't matter.



When he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan and Mummar Kadaffi and Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.



When it was pointed out that he was a total, newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, people said it didn't matter.



When he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, people said it didn't matter.



When his voting record in the Illinois senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, people said it didn't matter.



When he refused to wear a flag, lapel pin and did so only after a public outcry, people said it didn't matter.



When people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, people said it didn't matter.



When he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, people said it didn't matter.



When he surrounded himself in the White house with advisors who were pro gun control, pro abortion, pro homosexual marriage and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition people said it didn't matter.



When he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, people said it didn't matter.



When he said he favors sex education in Kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, people said it didn't matter.



When his background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, people said it didn't matter.



When the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a birth certificate, people said it didn't matter.



When he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco, a man of questionable character, who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home, people said it didn't matter.



When it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, people said it didn't matter.



When he started appointing czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist/Communist, people said it didn't matter.



When he stood before the nation and told us that his intentions were to "fundamentally transform this nation" into something else, people said it didn't matter.



When it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialist, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed a science czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilizations and seizing babies from teen mothers, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed Cass Sunstein as regulatory czar and he believes in "Explicit Consent", harvesting human organs with out family consent, and to allow animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual, and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight, Education network, as safe school czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed Mark Lloyd as diversity czar and he believed in curtailing free speech, taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth and admires Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.



When Valerie Jarrett was selected as Obama's senior White House advisor and she is an avowed Socialist, people said it didn't matter.



When Anita Dunn, White House Communications director said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher and the person she turned to most for inspiration, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed Carol Browner as global warming czar, and she is a well known socialist working on Cap and trade as the nations largest tax, people said it doesn't matter.



When he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as green energy czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, people said it didn't matter.



When Tom Daschle, Obama's pick for health and human services secretary could not be confirmed, because he was a tax cheat, people said it didn't matter.



When as president of the United States ,he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , people said it didn't matter.



When he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, people said it didn't matter.



When his actions concerning the middle-east seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel , our long time friend, People said it doesn't matter.



When he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , people said it doesn't matter.



When he upset the Europeans by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, People said it doesn't matter.



When he played politics in Afghanistan by not sending troops the Field Commanders said we had to have to win, people said it didn't matter.



When he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, people said it didn't matter.



When he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions and individuals that got him elected, people said it didn't matter.



When he took over insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc.



people said it didn't matter.



When he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, people said it didn't matter.



When he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn't matter.



When he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn't matter.



When he finally completed his transformation of America into a Socialist State , people finally woke up........ but it was too late.



Any one of these things, in and of themselves does not really matter. But.... when you add them up one by one you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that our Obama is determined to make America over into a Marxist/Socialist society. All of the items in the preceding paragraphs have been put into place. All can be documented very easily. Before you disavow this, do an internet search. The last paragraph alone is not yet cast in stone. You and I will write that paragraph. Will it read as above or will it be a more happy ending for most of America ? Personally, I like happy endings.



If you are an Obama Supporter, please do not be angry with me because I think your president is a socialist. There are too many facts supporting this. If you seek the truth you will be richer for it. Don't just belittle the opposition. Search for the truth. I did. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Constitutionalist, Libertarians and what have you, we all need to pull together. We all must pull together or watch the demise of a society that we all love and cherish. If you are a religious person, pray for our nation.



Never before in the history of America have we been confronted with problems so huge that the very existence of our country is in jeopardy. Don't rely on most television news and what you read in the newspapers for the truth. Search the internet. Yes, there is a lot of bad information, lies and distortions there too but you are smart enough to spot the fallacies. Newspapers are a dying breed. They are currently seeking a bailout from the government. Do you really think they are about to print the truth? Obama praises all the television news networks except Fox who he has waged war against. There must be a reason. He does not call them down on any specifics, just a general battle against them. If they lie, he should call them out on it but he doesn't. Please, find the truth, it will set you free.



Our biggest enemy is not China , Russia , or Iran ; no, our biggest enemy is a contingent of politicians in Washington DC .

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It's Bush's fault.

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It's Bush's fault.

You forgot to add the tags.

[Belgian_Draft 0]

Clinton did it first!

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[Amazon 7]

http://www.redcounty.com/fundamental-transformation-america

You really should put a cite for that rePUBICan trash so several of our more vociferous posters on the crazy right wont think you are a plagarist..as they have called others for not putting in the link.

Oh that is right they are also birthers and believers that he is a commie and a muslim


QUICK check that rock on your right.. three might be a commie under it. I thought the red baiting and red scares of the last 50 years had abated.

You would vote for McCarthy wouldn't you... makes about as much sence.

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The Fundamental Transformation of America When Obama wrote a book and said he was mentored as a youth by Frank, (Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist, people said it didn't matter.



When it was discovered that his grandparents, were strong socialists, sent Obama's mother to a socialist school, introduced Frank Marshall Davis to young Obama, People said it didn't matter.



When people found out that he was enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his father and step father were both Muslims, people said it didn't matter.



When he wrote in another book he authored "I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

people said it didn't matter.






When he admittedly, in his book, said he chose Marxist friends and professors in college, people said it didn't matter.



When he traveled to Pakistan , after college on an unknown national passport, people said it didn't matter.



When he sought the endorsement of the Marxist party in 1996 as he ran for the Illinois Senate, people said it doesn't matter.



When he sat in a Chicago Church for twenty years and listened to a preacher spew hatred for America and preach black liberation theology, people said it didn't matter.



When an independent Washington organization, that tracks senate voting records, gave him the distinctive title as the "most liberal senator", people said it didn't matter.



When the Palestinians in Gaza, set up a fund raising telethon to raise money for his election campaign, people said it didn't matter.



When his voting record supported gun control, people said it didn't matter.



When he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, people said it didn't matter.



When he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan and Mummar Kadaffi and Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.



When it was pointed out that he was a total, newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, people said it didn't matter.



When he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, people said it didn't matter.



When his voting record in the Illinois senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, people said it didn't matter.



When he refused to wear a flag, lapel pin and did so only after a public outcry, people said it didn't matter.



When people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, people said it didn't matter.



When he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, people said it didn't matter.



When he surrounded himself in the White house with advisors who were pro gun control, pro abortion, pro homosexual marriage and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition people said it didn't matter.



When he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, people said it didn't matter.



When he said he favors sex education in Kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, people said it didn't matter.



When his background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, people said it didn't matter.



When the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a birth certificate, people said it didn't matter.



When he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco, a man of questionable character, who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home, people said it didn't matter.



When it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, people said it didn't matter.



When he started appointing czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist/Communist, people said it didn't matter.



When he stood before the nation and told us that his intentions were to "fundamentally transform this nation" into something else, people said it didn't matter.



When it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialist, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed a science czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilizations and seizing babies from teen mothers, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed Cass Sunstein as regulatory czar and he believes in "Explicit Consent", harvesting human organs with out family consent, and to allow animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual, and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight, Education network, as safe school czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed Mark Lloyd as diversity czar and he believed in curtailing free speech, taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth and admires Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.



When Valerie Jarrett was selected as Obama's senior White House advisor and she is an avowed Socialist, people said it didn't matter.



When Anita Dunn, White House Communications director said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher and the person she turned to most for inspiration, people said it didn't matter.



When he appointed Carol Browner as global warming czar, and she is a well known socialist working on Cap and trade as the nations largest tax, people said it doesn't matter.



When he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as green energy czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, people said it didn't matter.



When Tom Daschle, Obama's pick for health and human services secretary could not be confirmed, because he was a tax cheat, people said it didn't matter.



When as president of the United States ,he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , people said it didn't matter.



When he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, people said it didn't matter.



When his actions concerning the middle-east seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel , our long time friend, People said it doesn't matter.



When he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , people said it doesn't matter.



When he upset the Europeans by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, People said it doesn't matter.



When he played politics in Afghanistan by not sending troops the Field Commanders said we had to have to win, people said it didn't matter.



When he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, people said it didn't matter.



When he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions and individuals that got him elected, people said it didn't matter.



When he took over insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc.



people said it didn't matter.



When he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, people said it didn't matter.



When he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn't matter.



When he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn't matter.



When he finally completed his transformation of America into a Socialist State , people finally woke up........ but it was too late.



Any one of these things, in and of themselves does not really matter. But.... when you add them up one by one you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that our Obama is determined to make America over into a Marxist/Socialist society. All of the items in the preceding paragraphs have been put into place. All can be documented very easily. Before you disavow this, do an internet search. The last paragraph alone is not yet cast in stone. You and I will write that paragraph. Will it read as above or will it be a more happy ending for most of America ? Personally, I like happy endings.



If you are an Obama Supporter, please do not be angry with me because I think your president is a socialist. There are too many facts supporting this. If you seek the truth you will be richer for it. Don't just belittle the opposition. Search for the truth. I did. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Constitutionalist, Libertarians and what have you, we all need to pull together. We all must pull together or watch the demise of a society that we all love and cherish. If you are a religious person, pray for our nation.



Never before in the history of America have we been confronted with problems so huge that the very existence of our country is in jeopardy. Don't rely on most television news and what you read in the newspapers for the truth. Search the internet. Yes, there is a lot of bad information, lies and distortions there too but you are smart enough to spot the fallacies. Newspapers are a dying breed. They are currently seeking a bailout from the government. Do you really think they are about to print the truth? Obama praises all the television news networks except Fox who he has waged war against. There must be a reason. He does not call them down on any specifics, just a general battle against them. If they lie, he should call them out on it but he doesn't. Please, find the truth, it will set you free.



Our biggest enemy is not China , Russia , or Iran ; no, our biggest enemy is a contingent of politicians in Washington DC .

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>Our biggest enemy is not China , Russia , or Iran ; no, our biggest
>enemy is a contingent of politicians in Washington DC .

And enemies must be defeated! No wonder right wingers are hoping for terrorist attacks and talking about military overthrows of the US government.

You know, while the far left was getting pretty ridiculous during the Bush years (the 9/11 conspiracies, the stupid names) I never heard them support treason.

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But...but...but...they are MUSLIMS
If we aren't careful they will build minarets all over the place and block our view of the church steeples.

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Your anti Muslim bigotry takes away from your anti socialism message just as it did during the campaign.

Your persistent ravings about his birth certificate make you look like an idiot.

The socialist stuff is pretty much right on the mark. Too bad you guys were too busy telling everyone he was black with an Arab sounding name during the campaign, you could have had a real debate. It's not like he pulled the health care bill out of a secret agenda.

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Your one warning. Attack the message all you like; do not attack the poster.

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The fact is what the President thinks really doesn't matter.

This country is run by corporations.

You,skyrider, seem worried about socialism . I think you haven't noticed the facism.

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Any one of these things, in and of themselves does not really matter. But.... when you add them up one by one you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that our Obama is determined to make America over into a Marxist/Socialist society.

And we could say that your beloved Repubs wanted to make the US into a Nazi fascist mess. Actually they did, but that is what the voters wanted and got; so what? This is now what the voters want so are you saying the American model is a POS or just the parts of it you disagree with?

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All of the items in the preceding paragraphs have been put into place. All can be documented very easily. Before you disavow this, do an internet search. The last paragraph alone is not yet cast in stone. You and I will write that paragraph. Will it read as above or will it be a more happy ending for most of America ?

If you want to support it, you do it. I scanned the list and it reads like the typical, 'sky is falling' RW rhetoric.

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Personally, I like happy endings.

Me too, why bring sex into this?

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If you are an Obama Supporter, please do not be angry with me because I think your president is a socialist.

I appreciate you thinking he's a Socialist. If you think he a Communist or a Muslim Terrorist I'll think you're nuts, but to say he's a Socialist is heading teh right way. Now don;t think he's a 100% Socialist or he would be suggesting we consolidate all corporations and have the gov become the bank, etc. But generally he is heading toward a quasi-Socialist society.

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There are too many facts supporting this. If you seek the truth you will be richer for it. Don't just belittle the opposition. Search for the truth. I did.

Well ya didn't share it. Furthermore, the Socialist aspects of his presidency were known and voted upon where he won by 10M votes, so you're not arguing anything but what the voters knew of then. Are you arguing the voters fucked up? Are you arguing the voters were deceived? I think Obama disclosed his quasi-Socialist agenda.

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Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Constitutionalist, Libertarians and what have you, we all need to pull together.

Hear ye, hear ye

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We all must pull together or watch the demise of a society that I all love and cherish.

Fixed it for ya.

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If you are a religious person, pray for our nation.

And if you are a humanitarian, rejoice in that the world hates us less and will hopefully love us again.

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Never before in the history of America have we been confronted with problems so huge that the very existence of our country is in jeopardy.

Oh yes we have, the Great Depression was worse and the Civil War was worse that both of those put together and multiplied by 10.

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Don't rely on most television news and what you read in the newspapers for the truth.

No, I rely on the Cato Institute where they talk about teh other Socialist, FDR, who allegedly tripled taxes, when in reality it was Hoover with his Revenue Act of 1932.

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Search the internet. Yes, there is a lot of bad information, lies and distortions there too but you are smart enough to spot the fallacies.

Yes, they are usually wrapped around RW rags.

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Newspapers are a dying breed. They are currently seeking a bailout from the government. Do you really think they are about to print the truth?

It's the Internet(s) that have killed the newspapaers, not some liberal conspiracy.

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Obama praises all the television news networks except Fox who he has waged war against.

Really? How does he feel about other forms of media? I think it depends upon how honest the mediaa is, for example the Cato Institute.

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There must be a reason. He does not call them down on any specifics, just a general battle against them. If they lie, he should call them out on it but he doesn't. Please, find the truth, it will set you free.

So what is he substantively doing? Is he planning a strafing mission on all FOX stations? So what, his opinion is that they disseminate BS, well, they do.

Let me have fun with a few of the paranoid contradictions:

- When his voting record supported gun control, people said it didn't matter.

How about GHWB's NRA card being yanked? How about GWB saying he would sign Clinton's sunsetted AWB if congress gave it to him? Let's jump back into reality here.

- When it was pointed out that he was a total, newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, people said it didn't matter.

So that little JD and several years teching law school, 4 years in teh senate amount to nothing? I wish I had that kind of nothing experience.

- When he refused to wear a flag, lapel pin and did so only after a public outcry, people said it didn't matter.

Well that changes everything now that he has the pin; it gives him special powers

- When people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, people said it didn't matter.


That's rhetoric, some people looked at Reagan and GWB as the 2nd coming too, so what? And after this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXX3uspbq8U anyone looks like the Messiah.

- When his background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, people said it didn't matter.

I don't know of this, I guess it's my duty to prove your point. And I'm sure you were up in arms when GWB's military record was unavailable and after much outcry he produced a blacked-out document. I must have missed your rage at that.

- When he aired his views on abortion, homosexuality and a host of other issues, people said it didn't matter.

Oh, and why does it matter? And people give me shit for Onion-gate? This is my point; conservatives feel as the Onion satirically portrayed.

- When he said he favors sex education in Kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, people said it didn't matter.

You need to source this.

- When he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual, and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight, Education network, as safe school czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, people said it didn't matter.

Same as above with the homophobic point.

- When he took over insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc.

I seee, bailing them out and having the gov have an interest is teh same as taking them over. So letting them fail and have easily 25% unemployment, real unemp probably 35-40% is better?

- When he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, people said it didn't matter.

The banks weren't lending, so instead of doin what stupid (GWB) would do and let them go w/o edication, he chose to take command.

- When he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn't matter.

When 40+M people went w/o coverage and millions had unsufficient coverage it didn't matter to conservatives ....just sick.

- When he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions and individuals that got him elected, people said it didn't matter.

Cite. The guise of stimulus; are you living in a different country, world? Do you not see the verge of total collapse? Is the stimulus unnecessary?

- When he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, people said it didn't matter.

Inheriting over 11T with a totally ill economy is now his fault? The only place I see the red is after the Repubs; care to make sense here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

- When he upset the Europeans by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, People said it doesn't matter.

Yes, we all know the Axis of Evil Ruskies are laying in wait. Just like fascist Ronnie (FR) thought, they were out to get us. He was wrong, so is anyone else absent new evidence.

- When he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, people said it didn't matter.

It's called humility. The US has been a toilet and our leader is trying to change that.

- When as president of the United States ,he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , people said it didn't matter

I guess it beats this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnOnDatqENo

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You know, while the far left was getting pretty ridiculous during the Bush years (the 9/11 conspiracies, the stupid names) I never heard them support treason.

That's because they're all gun fearing pansies!