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Does anyone give you any credibility? I mean, trying to come into a man's profession and tell him how it works is just so Belgian_Draft of you. Even your own clones back off that.:S

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Do you EVER get weary of strawman arguments? Your posts are no more than thinly veiled PAs trying to divert attention away from the core discussion.



I see you inherited Tommyfitz's 'spin' regurgitation; do you guys dress alike too?

I could run this back at you and continue it, but I really like honest discourse with data, to prove it I suggest we quit trashing the forum with our petty bickering, I think everyone would be on-board for that; your call.

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Does anyone give you any credibility? I mean, trying to come into a man's profession and tell him how it works is just so Belgian_Draft of you. Even your own clones back off that.:S


Somebody has to tell you. :D
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Do you EVER get weary of strawman arguments? Your posts are no more than thinly veiled PAs trying to divert attention away from the core discussion.



I see you inherited Tommyfitz's 'spin' regurgitation; do you guys dress alike too?

I could run this back at you and continue it, but I really like honest discourse with data, to prove it I suggest we quit trashing the forum with our petty bickering, I think everyone would be on-board for that; your call.



Try sticking to the topic of the thread and maybe people will drop the "spin" and "strawman" comments.
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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The purpose of timmyfitz's posting of this was to say look at Obama and the debt



Umm...no...that was the purpose of the SNL skit. Tim just brought it to our attention. And, heaven forbid someone should lampoon the Prez. [:/]
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Do you EVER get weary of strawman arguments? Your posts are no more than thinly veiled PAs trying to divert attention away from the core discussion.



I see you inherited Tommyfitz's 'spin' regurgitation; do you guys dress alike too?

I could run this back at you and continue it, but I really like honest discourse with data, to prove it I suggest we quit trashing the forum with our petty bickering, I think everyone would be on-board for that; your call.



Try sticking to the topic of the thread and maybe people will drop the "spin" and "strawman" comments.




You wanna keep trashing the forum with our BS or drop it? I don't need a directive, it's on you.

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You wanna keep trashing the forum with our BS or drop it? I don't need a directive, it's on you.



Hmmm...let's see. Your first reply to a post i made in this thread was as follows:
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Mr BD, let me inorm you that PH wasn't bombed in 1945, but 1942. Please try not to tell us the 1 key and the 5 key are next to each other. If yopu were better at covering your catshit, you would have said you used teh number pad to the right of the letters, but you haven't asserted that so we know you used the numbers up top.



My post was on topic. Yours was way off in left field, past the creek, over the hill and being dragged around by a scraggly cat. :P
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Something I had wondered about and have found another source that had similar speculations was the difference in China’s treatment of President Clinton during his first visit and President Obama on his visit

From the conservative The Economist:
“In China, Mr Obama’s handlers connived at a programme which saw his ‘town-hall meeting’ in Shanghai open only to handpicked young Communists [& basically only available, even with those restrictions, to Shanghai viewers – nerdgirl] and his joint ‘press conference’ with Hu Jintao, his Chinese counterpart, confined to statements from the leaders with no questions allowed. It was in glaring contrast to the comparative free-for-all of the visit in 1998 by Bill Clinton, who took on President Jiang Zemin on live television.

“In 1998 Mr Clinton’s visit was still in the long shadow of the 1989 Tiananmen killings. Since then, China has emerged as a great global power. Its political system, it claims, has been vindicated, and it likes to talk to America as an equal, or indeed as creditor to debtor. Yet its leaders seem more petrified than ever of what might happen if its people were given unfettered access to the thoughts of an American president. This may partly reflect the paranoid style of Mr Hu. But it also reflects how much the system as a whole fears those freedoms Mr Obama should have defended more boldly.

“For observers in China, as in America, this conformity with Chinese norms seemed to confirm the relative shift of power between the two countries.”

In particular, that last explanation does not make sense to me. If the power was *perceived* as having shifted and international issues dominated policy decisions, why the greater level of control and limit of access to the domestic population? As The Economist writers assert, President Clinton’s visit was in the shadow of Tiananmen, and it was a much less controlled, i.e., freer and more widely available exchange.

Couple with the shutdown of the access to the Berlin Twitterwall ... I’m wondering if it says more about Chinese domestic politics than anything international.

/Marg

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