Lucky... 0 #1 November 13, 2009 http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/hannitys-response-we-screwed-10032 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chez-pazienza/sean-hannitys-act-of-neo_b_355385.html Hannity used old footage of a previous rally with greater attendance to show the support of a recent rally. Supposed error: right. Just shows the dishonesty of the radical right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #2 November 13, 2009 Jon Stewart called him out and he ate some "humble pie" on the air. With a smirk... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #3 November 13, 2009 QuoteJon Stewart called him out and he ate some "humble pie" on the air. With a smirk... Right, he thinks it's cute to call the other side a bunch of liars, show intentionally deceptive pics and then smirk and you give a condescending apology. And people like these thugs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #4 November 13, 2009 Glad they called him out on it. Everybody's BS should be called out. I don't much care for Hannity, but he does do some good story's. I don't believe it's some great big RW conspiracy. They dont really need to lie about who was were to look better. Look at Fox's ratings.Hey did you hear the White House called Glenn Beck out? Yea they called Beck out for calling Van Jones a Czar. They didn't have a problem with Beck calling Jones a communist (in the same sentence) though..... makes you wonder Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #5 November 13, 2009 QuoteSupposed error: right. Just shows the dishonesty of the radical right. Like the 'honesty' of the MSM estimating 60-70k at the 9/12 rally, for example? Like MSNBC's "Morning Meeting" today showing fake photos of Palin? I notice you're not calling THEM out... I wonder why.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #6 November 13, 2009 Plenty of BS to go around on both sides. I stopped watching MSM...now I get all my news from Lucky Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #7 November 13, 2009 Quote Plenty of BS to go around on both sides. I stopped watching MSM...now I get all my news from Lucky You want the TRUTH??? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #8 November 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteSupposed error: right. Just shows the dishonesty of the radical right. Like the 'honesty' of the MSM estimating 60-70k at the 9/12 rally, for example? Like MSNBC's "Morning Meeting" today showing fake photos of Palin? I notice you're not calling THEM out... I wonder why. Post evidence of your point. Oh wait, this is Mike, he says to look up his assertions or they're assumed judicial notice. Also, MSM isn't an arm of teh Dem Party, Hannity is an unoffocial arm of the RW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #9 November 13, 2009 Quote Post evidence of your point. Oh wait, this is Mike, he says to look up his assertions or they're assumed judicial notice. I don't bother with you, because you won't accept anything besides the MSM as proof, anyway. Quote Also, MSM isn't an arm of teh Dem Party, Hannity is an unoffocial arm of the RW. Irony score COMPLETELY off the scale....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #10 November 13, 2009 One of the funniest Willie Brown habits concerned the cameras at the legislature in Sacramento. On the state version of CSPAN, politicians would make their stumping speeches at night to look good for their members. The camera would point straight at them in the front. But now and then, for the people that were on Willie's shit list, he would have the cameraman pan about to the empty chamber and take out the wind. Of course he didn't do it to his friends. For those too young to know the name, Willie was former Assembly leader for California, then SF Mayor, basically one of the last big machine politicians besides the Daleys, but better style and date partners for an old man. He left office early in the decade, now is just a lobbyist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Brown_%28politician%29 As for the usual RW bashing by Lucky - this is par for everyone. Overstate your numbers whenever you can, by any means you can. The left is in no position to claim a higher ground on deception. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #11 November 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteSupposed error: right. Just shows the dishonesty of the radical right. Like the 'honesty' of the MSM estimating 60-70k at the 9/12 rally, for example? Like MSNBC's "Morning Meeting" today showing fake photos of Palin? I notice you're not calling THEM out... I wonder why. The 60-70k crowd estimates came from the DC Police/Fire departments. Media that has some concern for accuracy reported the crowd estimates provided by organizations that have a lot of experience in dealing with crowds in DC. Those organizations provide accurate data, based on their previous experience with small, medium, large, and massive crowds. The reporting of much higher numbers by those "news" organizations that don't have much concern for accuracy came from specious and discredited sources. Those "news" organizations refused to report the data that was provided the the DC Police/Fire departments. Instead, they took the 9/12 organizers at their word. When challenged on the facts, they came up with a "foxpert" to back up their reporting of factually incorrect information. The "foxpert" has been totally discredited, if you were to bother to look into the matter. You may choose to believe "news" organizations that report factually incorrect information. That is the defining characteristic of what passes for conservatives these days. The weirdest part, to me, is the immense pride they have in their ignorance and gullibility. Believe all the bullshit you want. Bullshit is bullshit, no matter how much you wish it to be true. Ignorance is bliss. A good portion of the country leads an extremely blissful existance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #12 November 14, 2009 QuoteI don't bother with you, because you won't accept anything besides the MSM as proof, anyway. Right. Since we know that's wrong we'll just ignore your previous assertion. QuoteIrony score COMPLETELY off the scale.... MSM to the Dems is not Hannoty to t he R's - be real. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #13 November 14, 2009 QuoteAs for the usual RW bashing by Lucky - this is par for everyone. Overstate your numbers whenever you can, by any means you can. The left is in no position to claim a higher ground on deception. But to show pics of a crowd from a previous meet is not the norm. Esp how harsh Hannity is with Dems being dishonest. He isn't teh RW, most RWers just love him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #14 November 14, 2009 QuoteThe 60-70k crowd estimates came from the DC Police/Fire departments. Media that has some concern for accuracy reported the crowd estimates provided by organizations that have a lot of experience in dealing with crowds in DC. Those organizations provide accurate data, based on their previous experience with small, medium, large, and massive crowds. Actually, there's video from the capital steps where a DC policeman is estimating some 250k. QuoteThe reporting of much higher numbers by those "news" organizations that don't have much concern for accuracy came from specious and discredited sources. But enough about the MSM. QuoteYou may choose to believe "news" organizations that report factually incorrect information. No, I don't trust the MSM further than I can throw them. Your mileage obviously varies. QuoteIgnorance is bliss. A good portion of the country leads an extremely blissful existance. Well, 52% of the voters DID vote for Obama...and they were REALLY blissful over all that Hopenchange. Here's a little tidbit from metrorail for that day: Metrorail Service Information for Saturday, September 12, 2009 September 12, 2009 Metrorail: 437,624 Metrobus: 236,347 Comparable Metrorail Ridership 1 Year Ago: 362,773 Let's look at the pics... Here's a panoramic from the event. Here's another pic, and here's yet another. Looks like it's pretty full back past the pool in the panoramic picture. Now, the DC parks estimate of 240k for the 'ticketed section' assumes seats being set up in that area for that number. I'd say it's a pretty good bet there were more than 60-70k there, but you go ahead and believe those....what was the quote, again? oh, yes... you go ahead and believe "those 'news' organizations that don't have much concern for accuracy".Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d16842 0 #15 November 21, 2009 Quote Quote MSM to the Dems is not Hannoty to t he R's - be real Lucky, do you really think that Republicans have nothing better to do than sit around and watch Hannity all night? Around here we are far to busy trying to disenfranchise Democrats. You do know that Hannity isn't registered as a Republican any more, right? How about that the Republican Party is more than a little bit pissed at him over the NY Congress race mess, and his slamming of several Republicans? Lucky, you can always set up your own liberal TV show or even start a liberal radio network. Even better, you can probably get a good buy on Air America at its next bankruptcy hearing. They can make you a great deal on everything except listeners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d16842 0 #16 November 21, 2009 QuoteQuoteWell, 52% of the voters DID vote for Obama...and they were REALLY blissful over all that Hopenchange. They were indeed. No doubt about it. But for an already significant, and ever growing number of independents, that bubble has burst. To many of them, Change We Can Believe In somehow morphed into Change We Couldn't Imagine Even In Our Worst Dreams. In this week's Rasmussen poll, the lines finally crossed, with more voters claiming they would vote for McCain than Obama. I don't believe that would matter however, as Hillary has outscored Obama in several polls, and I believe that she would get the top spot on the Dem ticket. Hell hath no furry like a pissed off senior citizen, and that is coming for the Democratic Party, if not Obama. The question is when. With the bill not going into effect until 2013, Obama might slip by the year before. But when the seniors fully realize that the best Medicare program, Health Care Advantage is gone, the 30% on it will be pissed. And I don't care how often the Dems say it won't happen, pulling $600B out of Medicare funding WILL result in fewer options and services. I do admire the Dem's timing plan on this however.Tom B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ChangoLanzao 0 #17 November 21, 2009 QuoteHell hath no furry like a pissed off senior citizen, and that is coming for the Democratic Party, if not Obama. The question is when. With the bill not going into effect until 2013, Obama might slip by the year before. But when the seniors fully realize that the best Medicare program, Health Care Advantage is gone, the 30% on it will be pissed. And I don't care how often the Dems say it won't happen, pulling $600B out of Medicare funding WILL result in fewer options and services. I do admire the Dem's timing plan on this however. So, senior citizens should expect that the Republicans are going to support the full restoration of the Medicare program that they enjoy. Right? Or are you guys just going to propose an alternative rather than just making noise, and spreading lies to confuse and scare the senior citizens even more? Oh! Never mind...you think it's more important for senior citizens to be pissed and confused at the Dems than to improve medicare so that it covers them fully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites d16842 0 #18 November 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteHell hath no furry like a pissed off senior citizen, who is coming after the Democratic Party, if not Obama. The question is when. With the bill not going into effect until 2013, Obama might slip by the year before. But when the seniors fully realize that the best Medicare program, Health Care Advantage is gone, the 30% on it will be pissed. And I don't care how often the Dems say it won't happen, pulling $600B out of Medicare funding WILL result in fewer options and services. I do admire the Dem's timing plan on this however. So, senior citizens should expect that the Republicans are going to support the full restoration of the Medicare program that they enjoy. Right? No, I truly wish that were possible, I really do.. Republicans would literally pee their pants in excitement, getting to take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity to restore seniors' healthcare, and consequently move large numbers of seniors into the heart of the Republican Party. But the money required to do so simply will not be there. Why? The health care legislation requires massive new spending to provide medical coverage for many of the thirty five million people who can't afford medical coverage today. The largest source of this "new" money, is the $600B to be cut from Medicare. Unfortunately, by the time we are able to really see the disaster it will cause in Medicare, the money will have already been spent on other groups. What then? How will we recover from that? OK, I will lean back and await your next claim that those on the right who disagree with you are all lying scums who just don't know what is going on. Surely you can do better than that, and discuss/debate the issues instead of slamming the people. Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #19 November 22, 2009 Quote Lucky, do you really think that Republicans have nothing better to do than sit around and watch Hannity all night? Around here we are far to busy trying to disenfranchise Democrats. Nice job, keep it up - you're doing well as of teh last 2 elections Quote You do know that Hannity isn't registered as a Republican any more, right? I didn't know that, yoru previosu statement must be wrong if you know that. Quote How about that the Republican Party is more than a little bit pissed at him over the NY Congress race mess, and his slamming of several Republicans? Oh well, your hero's part is interchangeable; Repub...Libertaoran...same thing. I'm sure he'll come back. You are aware enough about politics to know he's posturing that the R's aren't maggotted enough, right? And by switching to Liber or Indep he's saying that. He's an idiot for trying to pull the party further away and I appreciate it. Quote Lucky, you can always set up your own liberal TV show or even start a liberal radio network. Even better, you can probably get a good buy on Air America at its next bankruptcy hearing. They can make you a great deal on everything except listeners. Why, my best advertisement is you and your party for, uh, disenfranchising us . Please keep it up, it's going well. Back to the original statement: MSM to the Dems is not Hannity to the R's - not even close. MSM would be FOX, Hannity would be Moveon.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #20 November 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteHell hath no furry like a pissed off senior citizen, who is coming after the Democratic Party, if not Obama. The question is when. With the bill not going into effect until 2013, Obama might slip by the year before. But when the seniors fully realize that the best Medicare program, Health Care Advantage is gone, the 30% on it will be pissed. And I don't care how often the Dems say it won't happen, pulling $600B out of Medicare funding WILL result in fewer options and services. I do admire the Dem's timing plan on this however. So, senior citizens should expect that the Republicans are going to support the full restoration of the Medicare program that they enjoy. Right? No, I truly wish that were possible, I really do.. Republicans would literally pee their pants in excitement, getting to take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity to restore seniors' healthcare, and consequently move large numbers of seniors into the heart of the Republican Party. But the money required to do so simply will not be there. Why? The health care legislation requires massive new spending to provide medical coverage for many of the thirty five million people who can't afford medical coverage today. The largest source of this "new" money, is the $600B to be cut from Medicare. Unfortunately, by the time we are able to really see the disaster it will cause in Medicare, the money will have already been spent on other groups. What then? How will we recover from that? OK, I will lean back and await your next claim that those on the right who disagree with you are all lying scums who just don't know what is going on. Surely you can do better than that, and discuss/debate the issues instead of slamming the people. Quote Right, I see, you're not a Republican but a Libertarian/Indep and your beliefs mirror that of Republicans. Your little switcheroo fools no one, we all know you want the Repubs to becoem more maggoted and this little temper tantrum of switching out is yoru way of telling them. Tell me, who did you vote for last Nov? I don't expect the truth, we all know it was McCain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites d16842 0 #21 November 23, 2009 Quote Right, I see, you're not a Republican but a Libertarian/Indep and your beliefs mirror that of Republicans. Your little switcheroo fools no one, we all know you want the Repubs to becoem more maggoted and this little temper tantrum of switching out is yoru way of telling them. Tell me, who did you vote for last Nov? I don't expect the truth, we all know it was McCain. I live in Butler County, Ohio. At least until very recently, registering as a Republicaan was the ONLY way to actually participate in selecting who would be elected in critical county races. The Republican primjary WAS/IS the election. I might have registered as a Libertarian in other states with different election rules, but probably not. On the other hand I supported Democrat Strickland for Governor, and pushed hard to get our Republican County Auditor thrown out of office. So take the party line sanctomy to someone else. Have you ever run for office, any office? Or is the keyboard your vent to a glimpse of reality? Of course I voted for McCain, and as of last week's Rasmussen's poll, am in the MAJORITY of Americans who would elect him over Obama today. But that doesn't make me a party line idiot. I vote for ideas above party and always have. And no, I don't watch Hannity, except in changing channels. I used to watch it a little, but not after Colmes left. I generally haven't watched Fox since Brit Hume left. I dislike TV where they shout at each other, and you can't hear what they actually say. As for your comparison, no I don't think Hannity is like MoveOn.org. If you said Ann Colter or Glenn Beck, I would agree. But I wish I had either's cashflow.Tom B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #22 November 23, 2009 QuoteAlso, MSM isn't an arm of teh [SIC] Dem Party, Hannity is an unoffocial [SIC] arm of the RW. The saddest thing is I think you honestly think this way. So, just so we are all clear: 1. The Onion is a RW rag. 2. MSN has no leanings. 3. Hannity is an "Unofficial, Official" arm of the RW. WOW....... So basically, you can label anything, anyway you want with no need to prove it, or back that position up.... Again, WOW...."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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ChangoLanzao 0 #17 November 21, 2009 QuoteHell hath no furry like a pissed off senior citizen, and that is coming for the Democratic Party, if not Obama. The question is when. With the bill not going into effect until 2013, Obama might slip by the year before. But when the seniors fully realize that the best Medicare program, Health Care Advantage is gone, the 30% on it will be pissed. And I don't care how often the Dems say it won't happen, pulling $600B out of Medicare funding WILL result in fewer options and services. I do admire the Dem's timing plan on this however. So, senior citizens should expect that the Republicans are going to support the full restoration of the Medicare program that they enjoy. Right? Or are you guys just going to propose an alternative rather than just making noise, and spreading lies to confuse and scare the senior citizens even more? Oh! Never mind...you think it's more important for senior citizens to be pissed and confused at the Dems than to improve medicare so that it covers them fully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d16842 0 #18 November 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteHell hath no furry like a pissed off senior citizen, who is coming after the Democratic Party, if not Obama. The question is when. With the bill not going into effect until 2013, Obama might slip by the year before. But when the seniors fully realize that the best Medicare program, Health Care Advantage is gone, the 30% on it will be pissed. And I don't care how often the Dems say it won't happen, pulling $600B out of Medicare funding WILL result in fewer options and services. I do admire the Dem's timing plan on this however. So, senior citizens should expect that the Republicans are going to support the full restoration of the Medicare program that they enjoy. Right? No, I truly wish that were possible, I really do.. Republicans would literally pee their pants in excitement, getting to take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity to restore seniors' healthcare, and consequently move large numbers of seniors into the heart of the Republican Party. But the money required to do so simply will not be there. Why? The health care legislation requires massive new spending to provide medical coverage for many of the thirty five million people who can't afford medical coverage today. The largest source of this "new" money, is the $600B to be cut from Medicare. Unfortunately, by the time we are able to really see the disaster it will cause in Medicare, the money will have already been spent on other groups. What then? How will we recover from that? OK, I will lean back and await your next claim that those on the right who disagree with you are all lying scums who just don't know what is going on. Surely you can do better than that, and discuss/debate the issues instead of slamming the people. Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #19 November 22, 2009 Quote Lucky, do you really think that Republicans have nothing better to do than sit around and watch Hannity all night? Around here we are far to busy trying to disenfranchise Democrats. Nice job, keep it up - you're doing well as of teh last 2 elections Quote You do know that Hannity isn't registered as a Republican any more, right? I didn't know that, yoru previosu statement must be wrong if you know that. Quote How about that the Republican Party is more than a little bit pissed at him over the NY Congress race mess, and his slamming of several Republicans? Oh well, your hero's part is interchangeable; Repub...Libertaoran...same thing. I'm sure he'll come back. You are aware enough about politics to know he's posturing that the R's aren't maggotted enough, right? And by switching to Liber or Indep he's saying that. He's an idiot for trying to pull the party further away and I appreciate it. Quote Lucky, you can always set up your own liberal TV show or even start a liberal radio network. Even better, you can probably get a good buy on Air America at its next bankruptcy hearing. They can make you a great deal on everything except listeners. Why, my best advertisement is you and your party for, uh, disenfranchising us . Please keep it up, it's going well. Back to the original statement: MSM to the Dems is not Hannity to the R's - not even close. MSM would be FOX, Hannity would be Moveon.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lucky... 0 #20 November 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteHell hath no furry like a pissed off senior citizen, who is coming after the Democratic Party, if not Obama. The question is when. With the bill not going into effect until 2013, Obama might slip by the year before. But when the seniors fully realize that the best Medicare program, Health Care Advantage is gone, the 30% on it will be pissed. And I don't care how often the Dems say it won't happen, pulling $600B out of Medicare funding WILL result in fewer options and services. I do admire the Dem's timing plan on this however. So, senior citizens should expect that the Republicans are going to support the full restoration of the Medicare program that they enjoy. Right? No, I truly wish that were possible, I really do.. Republicans would literally pee their pants in excitement, getting to take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity to restore seniors' healthcare, and consequently move large numbers of seniors into the heart of the Republican Party. But the money required to do so simply will not be there. Why? The health care legislation requires massive new spending to provide medical coverage for many of the thirty five million people who can't afford medical coverage today. The largest source of this "new" money, is the $600B to be cut from Medicare. Unfortunately, by the time we are able to really see the disaster it will cause in Medicare, the money will have already been spent on other groups. What then? How will we recover from that? OK, I will lean back and await your next claim that those on the right who disagree with you are all lying scums who just don't know what is going on. Surely you can do better than that, and discuss/debate the issues instead of slamming the people. Quote Right, I see, you're not a Republican but a Libertarian/Indep and your beliefs mirror that of Republicans. Your little switcheroo fools no one, we all know you want the Repubs to becoem more maggoted and this little temper tantrum of switching out is yoru way of telling them. Tell me, who did you vote for last Nov? I don't expect the truth, we all know it was McCain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites d16842 0 #21 November 23, 2009 Quote Right, I see, you're not a Republican but a Libertarian/Indep and your beliefs mirror that of Republicans. Your little switcheroo fools no one, we all know you want the Repubs to becoem more maggoted and this little temper tantrum of switching out is yoru way of telling them. Tell me, who did you vote for last Nov? I don't expect the truth, we all know it was McCain. I live in Butler County, Ohio. At least until very recently, registering as a Republicaan was the ONLY way to actually participate in selecting who would be elected in critical county races. The Republican primjary WAS/IS the election. I might have registered as a Libertarian in other states with different election rules, but probably not. On the other hand I supported Democrat Strickland for Governor, and pushed hard to get our Republican County Auditor thrown out of office. So take the party line sanctomy to someone else. Have you ever run for office, any office? Or is the keyboard your vent to a glimpse of reality? Of course I voted for McCain, and as of last week's Rasmussen's poll, am in the MAJORITY of Americans who would elect him over Obama today. But that doesn't make me a party line idiot. I vote for ideas above party and always have. And no, I don't watch Hannity, except in changing channels. I used to watch it a little, but not after Colmes left. I generally haven't watched Fox since Brit Hume left. I dislike TV where they shout at each other, and you can't hear what they actually say. As for your comparison, no I don't think Hannity is like MoveOn.org. If you said Ann Colter or Glenn Beck, I would agree. But I wish I had either's cashflow.Tom B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #22 November 23, 2009 QuoteAlso, MSM isn't an arm of teh [SIC] Dem Party, Hannity is an unoffocial [SIC] arm of the RW. The saddest thing is I think you honestly think this way. 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Lucky... 0 #19 November 22, 2009 Quote Lucky, do you really think that Republicans have nothing better to do than sit around and watch Hannity all night? Around here we are far to busy trying to disenfranchise Democrats. Nice job, keep it up - you're doing well as of teh last 2 elections Quote You do know that Hannity isn't registered as a Republican any more, right? I didn't know that, yoru previosu statement must be wrong if you know that. Quote How about that the Republican Party is more than a little bit pissed at him over the NY Congress race mess, and his slamming of several Republicans? Oh well, your hero's part is interchangeable; Repub...Libertaoran...same thing. I'm sure he'll come back. You are aware enough about politics to know he's posturing that the R's aren't maggotted enough, right? And by switching to Liber or Indep he's saying that. He's an idiot for trying to pull the party further away and I appreciate it. Quote Lucky, you can always set up your own liberal TV show or even start a liberal radio network. Even better, you can probably get a good buy on Air America at its next bankruptcy hearing. They can make you a great deal on everything except listeners. Why, my best advertisement is you and your party for, uh, disenfranchising us . Please keep it up, it's going well. Back to the original statement: MSM to the Dems is not Hannity to the R's - not even close. MSM would be FOX, Hannity would be Moveon.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #20 November 22, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteHell hath no furry like a pissed off senior citizen, who is coming after the Democratic Party, if not Obama. The question is when. With the bill not going into effect until 2013, Obama might slip by the year before. But when the seniors fully realize that the best Medicare program, Health Care Advantage is gone, the 30% on it will be pissed. And I don't care how often the Dems say it won't happen, pulling $600B out of Medicare funding WILL result in fewer options and services. I do admire the Dem's timing plan on this however. So, senior citizens should expect that the Republicans are going to support the full restoration of the Medicare program that they enjoy. Right? No, I truly wish that were possible, I really do.. Republicans would literally pee their pants in excitement, getting to take advantage of this once in a lifetime opportunity to restore seniors' healthcare, and consequently move large numbers of seniors into the heart of the Republican Party. But the money required to do so simply will not be there. Why? The health care legislation requires massive new spending to provide medical coverage for many of the thirty five million people who can't afford medical coverage today. The largest source of this "new" money, is the $600B to be cut from Medicare. Unfortunately, by the time we are able to really see the disaster it will cause in Medicare, the money will have already been spent on other groups. What then? How will we recover from that? OK, I will lean back and await your next claim that those on the right who disagree with you are all lying scums who just don't know what is going on. Surely you can do better than that, and discuss/debate the issues instead of slamming the people. Quote Right, I see, you're not a Republican but a Libertarian/Indep and your beliefs mirror that of Republicans. Your little switcheroo fools no one, we all know you want the Repubs to becoem more maggoted and this little temper tantrum of switching out is yoru way of telling them. Tell me, who did you vote for last Nov? I don't expect the truth, we all know it was McCain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites d16842 0 #21 November 23, 2009 Quote Right, I see, you're not a Republican but a Libertarian/Indep and your beliefs mirror that of Republicans. Your little switcheroo fools no one, we all know you want the Repubs to becoem more maggoted and this little temper tantrum of switching out is yoru way of telling them. Tell me, who did you vote for last Nov? I don't expect the truth, we all know it was McCain. I live in Butler County, Ohio. At least until very recently, registering as a Republicaan was the ONLY way to actually participate in selecting who would be elected in critical county races. The Republican primjary WAS/IS the election. I might have registered as a Libertarian in other states with different election rules, but probably not. On the other hand I supported Democrat Strickland for Governor, and pushed hard to get our Republican County Auditor thrown out of office. So take the party line sanctomy to someone else. Have you ever run for office, any office? Or is the keyboard your vent to a glimpse of reality? Of course I voted for McCain, and as of last week's Rasmussen's poll, am in the MAJORITY of Americans who would elect him over Obama today. But that doesn't make me a party line idiot. I vote for ideas above party and always have. And no, I don't watch Hannity, except in changing channels. I used to watch it a little, but not after Colmes left. I generally haven't watched Fox since Brit Hume left. I dislike TV where they shout at each other, and you can't hear what they actually say. As for your comparison, no I don't think Hannity is like MoveOn.org. If you said Ann Colter or Glenn Beck, I would agree. But I wish I had either's cashflow.Tom B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #22 November 23, 2009 QuoteAlso, MSM isn't an arm of teh [SIC] Dem Party, Hannity is an unoffocial [SIC] arm of the RW. The saddest thing is I think you honestly think this way. So, just so we are all clear: 1. The Onion is a RW rag. 2. MSN has no leanings. 3. Hannity is an "Unofficial, Official" arm of the RW. WOW....... So basically, you can label anything, anyway you want with no need to prove it, or back that position up.... Again, WOW...."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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d16842 0 #21 November 23, 2009 Quote Right, I see, you're not a Republican but a Libertarian/Indep and your beliefs mirror that of Republicans. Your little switcheroo fools no one, we all know you want the Repubs to becoem more maggoted and this little temper tantrum of switching out is yoru way of telling them. Tell me, who did you vote for last Nov? I don't expect the truth, we all know it was McCain. I live in Butler County, Ohio. At least until very recently, registering as a Republicaan was the ONLY way to actually participate in selecting who would be elected in critical county races. The Republican primjary WAS/IS the election. I might have registered as a Libertarian in other states with different election rules, but probably not. On the other hand I supported Democrat Strickland for Governor, and pushed hard to get our Republican County Auditor thrown out of office. So take the party line sanctomy to someone else. Have you ever run for office, any office? Or is the keyboard your vent to a glimpse of reality? Of course I voted for McCain, and as of last week's Rasmussen's poll, am in the MAJORITY of Americans who would elect him over Obama today. But that doesn't make me a party line idiot. I vote for ideas above party and always have. And no, I don't watch Hannity, except in changing channels. I used to watch it a little, but not after Colmes left. I generally haven't watched Fox since Brit Hume left. I dislike TV where they shout at each other, and you can't hear what they actually say. As for your comparison, no I don't think Hannity is like MoveOn.org. If you said Ann Colter or Glenn Beck, I would agree. But I wish I had either's cashflow.Tom B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #22 November 23, 2009 QuoteAlso, MSM isn't an arm of teh [SIC] Dem Party, Hannity is an unoffocial [SIC] arm of the RW. The saddest thing is I think you honestly think this way. So, just so we are all clear: 1. The Onion is a RW rag. 2. MSN has no leanings. 3. Hannity is an "Unofficial, Official" arm of the RW. WOW....... So basically, you can label anything, anyway you want with no need to prove it, or back that position up.... Again, WOW...."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
